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[Reidson]

Krogans do not suck...people just suck at using them and buffing them.

/End discussion

[lolpunch]

1. Krogan should not instantly bleed out from OHKOs. Redundant organs and such.

2. Actual health regeneration as has been portrayed by Krogan everywhere else except ME3 multiplayer, apparently.

3. Fix stunlock BS vs Geth in particular. Anyone who honestly doesn't think that Krogan don't get stunned more often than any other race hasn't been stunned as a Krogan by every single shot of a Geth Prime salvo being completely unable to move or take any action just because they happened to walk by a window.

I'll take these and be content.

Modifié par lolpunch, 08 avril 2012 - 05:56 .

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

shenlonzero wrote...

wow...another one of these.....umm...it's cause your play style is sub par and you're still on a novice level if you think that Krogans suck. not saying they're the best, but they certainly aren't the weaklings you portray them to be....maybe it's you. SUCK IT UP PRINCESSES!

Their weak when compared to other classes.

Most of us are not arguing that they aren't viable. We're arguing they're not competitive. at least on gold. 

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Reidson wrote...

Krogans do not suck...people just suck at using them and buffing them.

/End discussion

What an insightful and well thought out comment. 

[Flamko]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Flamko wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

and the turian sentinel can do the same with a better power synergy to boot as well. 

Ah yes, vanguards. Did they already dismiss that problem with "Hey guys, i'm dead in the middle of the battlefield. Res me please." A tiny stun and they are dead meat. And they cannot carry heavy weaponry to kill heavy targets. Last time i saw a vanguard, he was hanging in Banshee's hand.

Turian sentinel is not so durable. Great class, but... Different playstyle. He is extremely effective, but krogan is better. And turians do not carry heavy weaponry too. Most of them. 

 your assuming bad vanguards= all vanguards

And the turian sentinel dosen't need heavy weapons his CC and biotic detonations are far more useful

 And your assuming bad krogans= all krogans.
It is just much more difficult to become good krogan.
Yeah, turian sentinels are awesome. But we are talking about krogans here. Different role in the party, different playstyle. But as much helpful as TS. 

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Flamko wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Flamko wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

and the turian sentinel can do the same with a better power synergy to boot as well. 

Ah yes, vanguards. Did they already dismiss that problem with "Hey guys, i'm dead in the middle of the battlefield. Res me please." A tiny stun and they are dead meat. And they cannot carry heavy weaponry to kill heavy targets. Last time i saw a vanguard, he was hanging in Banshee's hand.

Turian sentinel is not so durable. Great class, but... Different playstyle. He is extremely effective, but krogan is better. And turians do not carry heavy weaponry too. Most of them. 

 your assuming bad vanguards= all vanguards

And the turian sentinel dosen't need heavy weapons his CC and biotic detonations are far more useful

 And your assuming bad krogans= all krogans.
It is just much more difficult to become good krogan.
Yeah, turian sentinels are awesome. But we are talking about krogans here. Different role in the party, different playstyle. But as much helpful as TS. 

No they can't Assuming you play the 3 classes at an equal skill level the vanguard and TS will be able to do far more than the Krogan could.

Vanguards are not vunerable to stagger nor do they even have to stay in cover for the majority of the match they can literally hold off an army of enemies on gold with Charge/nova. Add to the fact he can preform biotic explosions,roll,and get more durability out of his shields over due to shield recharge just makes him a better choice for gold. 

Turian sentinels can Detonate Biotic explosions,weaken armor for the whole team, Preform tech explosions, have an almost equal durability to the Krogan and has some of the best  non boss type unit CC in the game. 

The Krogan can headbutt things....Sometimes. and shoot things at the sacrifice of losing Carnage/incinerate/tech armor detonation....With less weapon damage/stability than the turian....

Anything you could do with the Krogan sentinel you can do better with those 2 classes. 

[GDragonFly7]

Drell Adept has like 240 barriers and I die less with him than with krogan sentinel - on silver. With drell i can dodge or run like hell if i need to. The only thing in which krogan is better than any other class is being a HUGE target to shoot at.

They're not completely usless but I have to try harder to achieve THE SAME results - they need a buff like many other things do. I hope that Korgan Vanguard will be better, even charge by itself will triple his survivability, KV can't be worse than other krogans because it would make it unplayable even on silver...

[Ledgend1221]

I should be able to use krogan as cover.

[Niran]

EDIT: sorry fixed the link...forgot to change h120 with s1600
https://lh6.googleus...19-28-36-87.bmp

tell me again Krogan is useless
he might be weak , and easily stunned , and seems to have lots of contra´s compared to other races , but get in rage one time , and this happens...
me and the other Krogan Sentinel made round 10 alone , hack the computer , 2 Krogans against 3 brutes in a row forcing us to go out of cover while beeing shot by Marauders and constantly targeted by a Ravager , hell fall uppon us like it was reapers on gold....but it was DEFINETLY awesome and those infiltrators must have been given up when they saw us getting bombarded and both getting down at the same time

Modifié par Niran, 08 avril 2012 - 06:33 .

[marshalleck]

Niran wrote...

https://lh6.googleus...19-28-36-87.bmp

Sorry, I left my microscope in the lab.

[N7 Whiskey]

155000 score on Gold, Survive 10 waves, full extraction
That was my last game on Gold using my Krogan Soldier with Claymore. Now don't take this as me bragging about elite skills because I'm not a great player, perhaps very good, but not great. All it takes to do well in Gold with the Krogan is coming to terms with their weaknesses and playing around them. I do a lot of melee with the Krogan but thinking you can charge into a group of enemies and smash all their skulls and walk out is a mistake. Used correctly, Krogans are as beastly as their reputation would suggest.

[Niran]

yea , just play around the weakness of a Krogan and dont overdo it with Melee on Gold , if possible try to avoid Melee on Gold against Geth at all times

[Kantham]

nicethugbert wrote...

Krogans are portrayed as melee monsters.  But, melee at any difficulty other than Bronze is suicide because health and shields melt in the face of bullets and the controls are wacky. 

Is that so?

I have no idea how you play it. But Krogan sentinel is a tank, people are convinced I recorded this on Bronze.
Bioware doesn't need to fix it, you are the one who need to fix how he plays with it.

Modifié par Kantham, 08 avril 2012 - 06:40 .

[N7 Whiskey]

Kantham wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

Krogans are portrayed as melee monsters.  But, melee at any difficulty other than Bronze is suicide because health and shields melt in the face of bullets and the controls are wacky. 

Is that so?

I have no idea how you play it. But Krogan sentinel is a tank, people are convinced I recorded this on Bronze.
Bioware doesn't need to fix it, you are the one who need to fix how he plays with it.

Yeah Krogan soldier can one shot melee Phantoms on Silver without a problem.  With Rage engaged and Fort purged, you can heavy melee then headbutt a Phanton and she dies.  The Krogan charge used with Carnage/Incinerate & a big shotgun blast can deal staggering amounts of damage.

Also for those that don't like the stun effects that Krogans suffer, well, turnabout is fair play ya know.  Use the Geth shotgun and stun them first, then run 'em over.

[Blind2Society]

I play the Krogan sentinel pretty much the same as you Kantham, I just swap the falcon for the GPS. Let's see you do that against Geth however. Not so easy when you're stun locked the whole time. And against Geth there are usually way too many dangerous enemies in a small area to play like that. The funny (actually, annoying, not funny) thing is I never used to use get stunned by Geth the way I do now. (I used to play KS all the time but stopped for the promotion event and have been playing it again for the past couple days)

@buckshot, that would work if they got stunned by it 100% of the time like we do. However, most of the time they do that sidestep thingy.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 08 avril 2012 - 06:58 .

[ForTuchanka]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

155000 score on Gold, Survive 10 waves, full extraction
That was my last game on Gold using my Krogan Soldier with Claymore. Now don't take this as me bragging about elite skills because I'm not a great player, perhaps very good, but not great. All it takes to do well in Gold with the Krogan is coming to terms with their weaknesses and playing around them. I do a lot of melee with the Krogan but thinking you can charge into a group of enemies and smash all their skulls and walk out is a mistake. Used correctly, Krogans are as beastly as their reputation would suggest.

Cool story, bro... pics or it didn't happen.  There seem to be tons of super awesome krogan gold players here on the forums yet strangely I have yet to meet even a single krogan player on gold who doesn't score dead last.

[Dyssonance]

I agree with most points in this thread. Krogans are absolutely garbage. Go play Geth Gold and cry in frustration.

[skiadopsendow]

Kantham wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

Krogans are portrayed as melee monsters.  But, melee at any difficulty other than Bronze is suicide because health and shields melt in the face of bullets and the controls are wacky. 

Is that so?

I have no idea how you play it. But Krogan sentinel is a tank, people are convinced I recorded this on Bronze.
Bioware doesn't need to fix it, you are the one who need to fix how he plays with it.

Well said, man.

[Stardusk]

ForTuchanka wrote...

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

155000 score on Gold, Survive 10 waves, full extraction
That was my last game on Gold using my Krogan Soldier with Claymore. Now don't take this as me bragging about elite skills because I'm not a great player, perhaps very good, but not great. All it takes to do well in Gold with the Krogan is coming to terms with their weaknesses and playing around them. I do a lot of melee with the Krogan but thinking you can charge into a group of enemies and smash all their skulls and walk out is a mistake. Used correctly, Krogans are as beastly as their reputation would suggest.

Cool story, bro... pics or it didn't happen.  There seem to be tons of super awesome krogan gold players here on the forums yet strangely I have yet to meet even a single krogan player on gold who doesn't score dead last.

I don't ever think I have scored dead last on Gold as a Krogan.

[Benny8484]

Krogan's need built in health regen.  It fits lore & would make them viable for silver/gold.  Krogan vangaurd is not the solution.  The other 2 need to be viable as well.  Krogans are supposed to be melee oreinted, & as such need to have the survivability to match.

[cuzIMgood]

Krogans mainly suffer from their lack of mobility (similar to turians). Simply giving them some sort of slow dodge/roll would make them so much better. Regenerating health would be cool too.

[Peer of the Empire]

Krogan need to do more damage

[skiadopsendow]

Benny8484 wrote...

Krogan's need built in health regen.  It fits lore & would make them viable for silver/gold.  Krogan vangaurd is not the solution.  The other 2 need to be viable as well.  Krogans are supposed to be melee oreinted, & as such need to have the survivability to match.

watch kantham's video. lol

[cuzIMgood]

skiadopsendow wrote...

Benny8484 wrote...

Krogan's need built in health regen.  It fits lore & would make them viable for silver/gold.  Krogan vangaurd is not the solution.  The other 2 need to be viable as well.  Krogans are supposed to be melee oreinted, & as such need to have the survivability to match.

watch kantham's video. lol

Just because they CAN beat silver/gold doesn't mean they are nearly as viable as most other classes.

Like I said, they just need a slow dodge/roll (same for turians) move and MAYBE regenerating health.

[Stardusk]

Kantham wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

Krogans are portrayed as melee monsters.  But, melee at any difficulty other than Bronze is suicide because health and shields melt in the face of bullets and the controls are wacky. 

Is that so?

I have no idea how you play it. But Krogan sentinel is a tank, people are convinced I recorded this on Bronze.
Bioware doesn't need to fix it, you are the one who need to fix how he plays with it.

I think this discussion is mostly about Gold, not Silver.