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[Whybother]

General Battuta wrote...
I didn't mean to spin them negatively, but I did definitely step over the line by suggesting he 'dropped hints' that he didn't like the ending. He was never anything less than a completely professional team member.

I feel really bad about disappointing him. He was so generous with his answers, and he really lifted my spirits. I should've done a better job.

Good way to make sure no Bioware employee talks to a fan again

[Jamie9]

General Battuta wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Patrick has tweeted on the situation:

"Those are paraphrases, some with a very negative spin, which is unfortunate, because they were great questions."

It did happen then, but the paraphrasing is inaccurate.

I didn't mean to spin them negatively, but I did definitely step over the line by suggesting he 'dropped hints' that he didn't like the ending. He was never anything less than a completely professional team member.

I feel really bad about disappointing him. He was so generous with his answers, and he really lifted my spirits. I should've done a better job.

Hey, it's generally lifted my spirits, and I thought was quite positive. Don't feel bad. You've helped a lot of people like me, I'm sure. Nowhere I can see in there has anything offensive/disrespectful to him.

Don't worry.

[The Angry One]

garf wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

If that is true, then it seems to imply that Shepard CAN control the reapers, or at least it was never planned for the reapers to disobey Shepard's command.

Control definitely seems the best ending now, shame shep dies but its the ultimate sacrifice.

I wish they'd define 'dies' how does shep control the reapers if she's completely dead, Ie no longer part of the living world.

If I get to end the game as a 3km tall cuttlefish with N7 painted on my hull and Harbinger as my ****... I'd 'die' happy.

[pikey1969]

General Battuta wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Patrick has tweeted on the situation:

"Those are paraphrases, some with a very negative spin, which is unfortunate, because they were great questions."

It did happen then, but the paraphrasing is inaccurate.

I didn't mean to spin them negatively, but I did definitely step over the line by suggesting he 'dropped hints' that he didn't like the ending. He was never anything less than a completely professional team member.

I feel really bad about disappointing him. He was so generous with his answers, and he really lifted my spirits. I should've done a better job.

oh hai there. ;p

[iheartbob]

Jamie9 wrote...

Patrick has tweeted on the situation:

"Those are paraphrases, some with a very negative spin, which is unfortunate, because they were great questions."

It did happen then, but the paraphrasing is inaccurate.

I really didn't see any "very negative spin." ??

Maybe people interpretting it as a writer who didn't necessarily agree with the ending?

I would like to see more informal interviews too.  It'd be nice to hear more feedback on the endings from the writers (specifically those who played an integral part in writing the ending) beyond "artistic integrity."

[Chaoswind]

The Angry One wrote...

Chaoswind wrote...

I played ME1 a few days ago and this is what happens

VIGIL gives you a keycode that will give you TEMPORARY control of the citadel and the mass relays before CORRUPTING THE **** OUT OF THAT ****.

So the mass relay controling signal is no more because Shep/Vigil ****ed the reapers in the ass, that is why the reapers didn't bother to take the citadel (i guess they could try to fix the damage Vigil/Shep did to the code, but as we are talking about a major corruption we can asume it was better to rewrite the code from scratch and that was going to take time).

Glad i could help

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Vigil

The Citadel and it's functions are still directly controllable through it's control panels.
Why not have TIM, or any thrall for that matter operate the controls directly?

nope

think of it like an universal controller than can control your TV/DVD/Air Conditioner, but its code was corrupted and now can only control the TV.

so the only way to turn mass relays off is to throw a meteor at them, and overloadin them apparently

so tired... I ndee to sleep

[garf]

Irishkev wrote...

I know it not offical or anything but they should do something like this offically.

Instead of going silent or giving tease tweets that just get our hopes up or make us more angry. Why not just be honest and say we tried something we didn't make it clear we can see that and we will fix the issue.

After a few weeks I was expecting a offical response from the writers explaining the ending and why they did it either for future content or something. But we didn't get that we got its art and we won't be releasing any content after the ending which may not of been there aim but came off as sit down and shut up and take the ending you got.

Fair enough they lied through there teeth when they talking about the game Pre and Post release about the ending and last mission we all know that no one can deny that. But the way the handled it could of been better they should be doing something like the OP has only offical.

Talk to your fans about the ending discuss it with them don't hide behinde the this is ART Crap. you will find that many fans have issues with the plotholes that talking to a writer or an offical reposne would solve.

Granted some want closure as well which hopefully this DLC fixes but I beleive statments like that would atleast silence a lot of people

absolutely. The fan rage was being exacerbated by their efforts to keep the shaken champaign bottle corked.

[kheldorin]

General Battuta wrote...

kheldorin wrote...I disagree. The interview clearly wasn't transcripted properly and the author did his own interpretration of what Patrick Weekes said. I thought it was obvious that the transcript was skewed for a certain agenda, yet people here believed in it wholely.

Is there anything you'd like clarified or reexamined? This 'interview' is simply my memory of what Mr. Weekes told us.

That's the problem. It's not a transcript. You're going by memory and perhaps subconsciously inserting your own interpretation of his statements. Have you ever done that communication exercise where you're supposed to tell someone something and then pass it on to the next person? In the end, the original message is lost. For example,  the answer to "How did you feel about the ending?" was just a description.

I also disagree that Bioware should be more open than they already are now. People are just going to twist it in someway that would further villify EA or Bioware. I've seen it happening in Wow's forums and it's happening here now. No matter what they say, it's not going to help them. Even if Bioware has been listening and gathering feedback all this while but they decide not to do exactly what the forum posters wants, people are still going think that Bioware isn't listening. I think that Bioware needs to start doing what Blizzard does which is to be less open and be careful about what they state as people would just twist it into something bad.

[Shaoken]

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Not sure if this interview is legit.

He just confirmed that it happened, but the answers written are paraphrased and slanted towards the negative.

So it's legit, if a bit biased and thus shouldn't be taken word for word.

[PhoenixDove1]

Good read. The feeling from this is what we thought, ME3 was rushed by EA overlords (love that, fits so well it seems). Like everyone glad the WHOLE team is busy finishing up the etended DLC. Still reserving judgement until it comes out but this makes me feel a little better about what we may get.

[Hexley UK]

Shaoken wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Not sure if this interview is legit.

He just confirmed that it happened, but the answers written are paraphrased and slanted towards the negative.

So it's legit, if a bit biased and thus shouldn't be taken word for word.

Which is probably a good thing as they don't even seem that negative tbh.

[Nyila]

garf wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

If that is true, then it seems to imply that Shepard CAN control the reapers, or at least it was never planned for the reapers to disobey Shepard's command.

Control definitely seems the best ending now, shame shep dies but its the ultimate sacrifice.

I wish they'd define 'dies' how does shep control the reapers if she's completely dead, Ie no longer part of the living world.

If I get to end the game as a 3km tall cuttlefish with N7 painted on my hull and Harbinger as my ****... I'd 'die' happy.

[Oldbones2]

Look at least Weekes is TRYING. He's trying to give us answers about the story, about the production, about why some things HAD to happen the way they did.

More than any other BW staff member has done so far.

[pikey1969]

Whybother wrote...

General Battuta wrote...
I didn't mean to spin them negatively, but I did definitely step over the line by suggesting he 'dropped hints' that he didn't like the ending. He was never anything less than a completely professional team member.

I feel really bad about disappointing him. He was so generous with his answers, and he really lifted my spirits. I should've done a better job.

Good way to make sure no Bioware employee talks to a fan again

Come on man, IF they read this thread (apparently they are), they've gotta be seeing that 'open discussion' more than ANYTHING they've tried to do on the PR front so far, calms the fans.

Don't you feel the Weekes love? Cause I do.

[Kamuchi]

rivqa wrote...

I'll add this to my optimism bank, thanks OP.

ETA: those tweets totally ninja-ed me. But still.

Better a grain of hope then artistic integrity bullsh!t 

[SnafuAce]

CronoDragoon wrote...

SnafuAce wrote...

Merwanor wrote...

SnafuAce wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

It sounds like they got cheap on us with the lack of resources.  Also, it sounds as if they really intended that ending and it's not a dream.  In that case, I'll just have to get cheap on spending money on their products.  Too bad Bioware, you had potential.

I think by lack of resources he meant lack of hardware resources, not financial resources. To clarify, all three of the ME games have been restricted greatly since they have to be able to run on the outdated/underpowered consoles(PS3/XBOX360).  

This just makes me hate the crappy consoles even more, but I also feel that if they had 1 more year on this game, they could have acomplished so much more. I just have this bad feeling that EA is behind much of the issues. I know I might be paranoid, but still, it just feels that way.

Agreed on both fronts. EA is bad for business.  It still saddens me that Bioware sold themselves out to them.  

The crappy console thing also gets me.  I don't know about everyone else but I think ME3 looked dreadful on the PC, graphically speaking ofcourse. What makes if worse is that if you look at some of the Unreal Engine 3 (ME's engine) demos, ME could look so much better and have much bigger levels if it were PC exclusive...or at least if Sony and Microsoft produced  some next generation consoles.

Whatevs, on my PS3 I have a 55" Plasma and surround sound. No amount of texture resolution can match that epicness!

Haha I agree, my 42" has a hard time competing with that.  Every platform has their pros and cons of course, some more than others 

[felipejiraya]

garf wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

If that is true, then it seems to imply that Shepard CAN control the reapers, or at least it was never planned for the reapers to disobey Shepard's command.

Control definitely seems the best ending now, shame shep dies but its the ultimate sacrifice.

I wish they'd define 'dies' how does shep control the reapers if she's completely dead, Ie no longer part of the living world.

If I get to end the game as a 3km tall cuttlefish with N7 painted on my hull and Harbinger as my ****... I'd 'die' happy.

Actually I was talking about this with a friend: let's assume Shepard "uploaded" himself into a Reaper so it's possible his mind is still alive in a virtual reality. 

One way to make a "happy" ending in control is your LI upload him/herself in the same Reaper so he/her can be with Shepard for the whole eternity.

[garf]

The Angry One wrote...

garf wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

If that is true, then it seems to imply that Shepard CAN control the reapers, or at least it was never planned for the reapers to disobey Shepard's command.

Control definitely seems the best ending now, shame shep dies but its the ultimate sacrifice.

I wish they'd define 'dies' how does shep control the reapers if she's completely dead, Ie no longer part of the living world.

If I get to end the game as a 3km tall cuttlefish with N7 painted on my hull and Harbinger as my ****... I'd 'die' happy.

@harbinger:
aw shaddup harby and build that new relay faster. or do you want me to come over and 'assume direct controll' again?

[Hexley UK]

pikey1969 wrote...

Whybother wrote...

General Battuta wrote...
I didn't mean to spin them negatively, but I did definitely step over the line by suggesting he 'dropped hints' that he didn't like the ending. He was never anything less than a completely professional team member.

I feel really bad about disappointing him. He was so generous with his answers, and he really lifted my spirits. I should've done a better job.

Good way to make sure no Bioware employee talks to a fan again

Come on man, IF they read this thread (apparently they are), they've gotta be seeing that 'open discussion' more than ANYTHING they've tried to do on the PR front so far, calms the fans.

Don't you feel the Weekes love? Cause I do.

<3 Weekes...in a manly way with bear hugs and beer and that...obviously...

[Deflagratio]

Seems reassuring. Maybe I would have preferred Karpshyrn to still be Lead Writer of Mass Effect, if only to preserve a lot of the core integrity the series built up, but as Garrus said, "You go to war with the army you have."

Modifié par Deflagratio, 08 avril 2012 - 01:55 .

[pikey1969]

In fact, if you read this post, you're obligated to add on top of whatever you say with

'i weekes for this perhaps poorly transcribed interview'

[iheartbob]

I didn't mean to spin them negatively, but I did definitely step over the line by suggesting he 'dropped hints' that he didn't like the ending. He was never anything less than a completely professional team member.

I feel really bad about disappointing him. He was so generous with his answers, and he really lifted my spirits. I should've done a better job.

It's a really easy fix.  Edit the part about "dropping hints" out and maybe add a little disclaimer/apology to the bottom.  If you have twitter, then shoot him an apology tweet?

I garnered a general positive feel from the whole thing, myself. 

[The Angry One]

Oldbones2 wrote...

Look at least Weekes is TRYING. He's trying to give us answers about the story, about the production, about why some things HAD to happen the way they did.

More than any other BW staff member has done so far.

True enough, but I just get a bad vibe when anyone at BioWare says "you should assume this or that."
Show, don't tell.

[AxholeRose]

A new hero has emerged.

Little did mild mannered senior writer Patrick Weekes realize that a photo with cosplay Mordin, and a few moments of honesty with a fan could change his life.

[Kamuchi]

Nyila wrote...

garf wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

If that is true, then it seems to imply that Shepard CAN control the reapers, or at least it was never planned for the reapers to disobey Shepard's command.

Control definitely seems the best ending now, shame shep dies but its the ultimate sacrifice.

I wish they'd define 'dies' how does shep control the reapers if she's completely dead, Ie no longer part of the living world.

If I get to end the game as a 3km tall cuttlefish with N7 painted on my hull and Harbinger as my ****... I'd 'die' happy.

lolz