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[Dr_Hello]

Militarized wrote...

No body should hate on Weekes, Weekes did a great job with the content he wrote.

He did Tuchanka if I'm not mistaken.

Weekes is one of the best.

His work on ME3 detailed out: www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx

[Devils-DIVISION]

Yea! Go Weeksie! Thanks for the info OP, very much enjoyed it.

[JaylaClark]

Patrick is my Prothean-Masquerading-As-God already for writing the line "Why, you think we'll need to hack a terminal somewhere?" (para. LotSB) Along with the entire rest of that DLC of course. But I do like the idea that he said it outright to someone what we really needed to hear -- we're not killing the galaxy and hopefully Bioware will show us how it survives.

Starchild annoys me, Synthesis bothers me, but I think I could, dare I say it, live with the ending if they tell us what happened. (And put Patrick on the 'explaining' RE Normandy. That's gonna take some work, guys.)

[shepskisaac]

G Kevin wrote...

I see. Maybe this scene too was not fleshed out as intended to make people see otherwise?

Most likely. But if BW did indeed intend to have it happen 10,000 years after ME3 and space-travel is still impossible, then I just call it dumb. Not only it would make no sense to all the races to not only not progress at all but actually go backwards, but it would also mean Yagh didn't do anything within those 10,000 years either.

[Painaid]

Thank you Mr. Weekes. I really appreciate the straight talk.

[SpideyKnight]

greggm2000 wrote...

SpideyKnight wrote...

greggm2000 wrote... 

It could be that Bioware's public response was a tactical one with the express intention of pissing people off, hoping for the reaction that happened.. the logic being that it would give Bioware justification to push back at EA, who (in this logic) forced the bad ending in the first place. If so, well done!

Don't be ridiculous.  It isn't anything near that.  You do not admit that the end of your game is a collosal failure mere days/weeks after it is released.  You wait until you get all the sales you possibly can, then "address fan feedback" and get more.  Simple business.

I don't recall them admitting any such thing. They really haven't said much of anything. I'm not saying it's true, but I can see how it could be true, if Bioware was forced to do something it didn't want to do, and used the public to fight back.

I can't decide whether you just didn't comprehend a word I said or you just don't realize your response doesn't make an ounce of sense?  Regardless, it's poorly structured at the very least .  Let me break it down for you:  

A) You think that Bio made a tactical decision to enrage the playerbase.  

I said that is a ridiculous assertion.  The reason for the silence is because no company is going to admit any faults with its product mere days or weeks after release.  Of course they aren't going to admit that, it's simple common business sense.  Got it?  

Bioware, as a company, is not going to fight it's parent company using the public as a weapon.  Make your conspiracies, that's fine, if they were at least partially based on logic that would be even better.

Modifié par SpideyKnight, 08 avril 2012 - 05:22 .

[Neko Hibiki]

Is the Extended DLC going to be free, or do we have to pay another $80 for it like we did the game?

[Dr_Hello]

Daverid wrote...

Abreu Road wrote...

He and Jessica Merizan are the only guys on Bioware with balls enough to face the fans.

Patrick should be promoted to lead writer on a next project. He clearly is a better writer than Walters.

I personally have more respect for Patrick Weekes then Jessica Merizan ... I think she more-so 'Appeals' to the fans .. Tries to be a little Cryptic but in general wants the Fanbase on her side because She's a community Manager .. And well without The Community Loving Her, she's really got nothing.

However Weekes always seems genuine. He's a Writer, he doesn't even need a face, he just needs to make comments and update his Twitter regularily and you can tell he's quite a down-to-earth guy who wants the best for His Job and His Company he works for.

I Feel Sorry for Weekes though because he's constantly put in the Spotlight throughout this whole situation BECAUSE he's the only person who has the balls to say the truth to the Fans, even to the point of having to retract his statements because of pressure from the company. 

TBH I'm SHOCKED that this is the ONLY interview so far that has surfaced .. When they finished the Panel they said that they would be in the 105 Room meeting fans and answering questions ... So how come out of all the people that went to PAX .. We only got ONE Unofficial Interview Response ... No one Recorded Their Conversation .. And they didn't get drilled about Ending Questions over and over .. It's rather surprising .. Perhaps we are the extreme Vocal Minority after all, and that Minority wasn't present at PAX :S

To be fair to Jessica Merizan, her job as you pointed out is community manager. She doesn't have all the answers as to what happened, how the game is made, what does x, y or z mean in the game... So you shouldn't take her words as 'God's'.

Whereas Weekes is one of the writers, he's been involved since ME1. So he knows the process of the making of the game and story and what really went on behind doors. Not only is Weekes a great writer, he's always been honest and accessible to the fans. 

[Firnwind]

Thank you for the first honest felt answers since the start. Does this make seem some things inconsistent? Yes. Do I care because the alternative answers given are so much better? Not Really.

Hopefully more honest answers to come (take Curt Shilling and his KoA: Reckonig as example please for honest talk with fans ...) but this made me so much more relieved about Bioware and the Mass Effect Franchise than any vague announcement of some ending DLC could.

[Dr_Hello]

Neko Hibiki wrote...

Is the Extended DLC going to be free, or do we have to pay another $80 for it like we did the game?

Where have you been over the past days? Yes it'll be free, unless EA changes their mind... 

[Drenick18]

Weekes should have been lead writer .

[apieros]

M0keys wrote...
Okay, so every side had some jerks. Fair point. But we're all fans of Mass Effect. Nobody wants to see it go.

tobito113 wrote...
That is very wrong,

No, it's very right. Retakers are people who want to love Mass Effect 3. Want to trust Bioware's ability to spin an involving story... but can't because the endings were incoherent piles of plot holes and ass-pulls.

Then, to top it off, Bioware (and the "Antis") respond with apparent contempt, robot-like PR speke, and condescension. "Your opinions don't matter." "Artistic integrity." "We'll only listen if you say things the right way."

Guess what? When a company tells you to **** right off people get angry. (And when the media does it, and "Antis" do it...)

On that subject...

tobito113 wrote...

the nerd rage and hatred ive seen was quite disturbing...

I wish I didn't have to say this, but...

You've generated a lot of rage and hatred yourself. I know, I've read your posts. You've been just as toxic as many Retake trolls were.

(Of which there were several. That guy who compared Bioware to Hitler, for example. Total jerk. Got banned. Good. You weren't as bad as him, but you were pretty bad.)

And yeah, your toxicity was disturbing. Still is.

The question is, can you let it go? Don't know, not my problem. But it's something you (and the other "Antis") should really think about.

Modifié par apieros, 08 avril 2012 - 05:35 .

[SpideyKnight]

SnafuAce wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

It sounds like they got cheap on us with the lack of resources.  Also, it sounds as if they really intended that ending and it's not a dream.  In that case, I'll just have to get cheap on spending money on their products.  Too bad Bioware, you had potential.

I think by lack of resources he meant lack of hardware resources, not financial resources. To clarify, all three of the ME games have been restricted greatly since they have to be able to run on the outdated/underpowered consoles(PS3/XBOX360).  

Look, I play on the PC, but I'm only going to allow this PC master race thing to go so far.  He clearly meant a lack of development resources, i.e: Funding and time.

The consoles are not to blame for this game's myriad flaws.

[Dranks]

Thank you so much for this Mr. Weekes. THIS is the kind of thing we've needed to see. And in Jessica's defense, she has stated NUMEROUS times that she has no idea what goes down with the Mass Effect development. She just plays them as a fan and has absolutely no say in a single thing that happens with the games. Everything she has said about the story has been her talking about the game with fans as a fan herself, not as an employee.

[Omnike]

[quote]Eragondragonrider wrote...

[quote]

 We also knew we'd have Vega
in order for new players to have someone dumber than they were.
[/quote]

[/quote]

This right here sound like a epic burn at CoD/BFers 

[/quote]

I don't think he meant dumb in intelligence. I think he meant dumb situationally. As in, Vega knows about as much of what's going on as the people who saw the commercial and went and picked up the game. 

[Omnike]

SpideyKnight wrote...

SnafuAce wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

It sounds like they got cheap on us with the lack of resources.  Also, it sounds as if they really intended that ending and it's not a dream.  In that case, I'll just have to get cheap on spending money on their products.  Too bad Bioware, you had potential.

I think by lack of resources he meant lack of hardware resources, not financial resources. To clarify, all three of the ME games have been restricted greatly since they have to be able to run on the outdated/underpowered consoles(PS3/XBOX360).  

Look, I play on the PC, but I'm only going to allow this PC master race thing to go so far.  He clearly meant a lack of development resources, i.e: Funding and time.

The consoles are not to blame for this game's myriad flaws.

Yeah, rescources didn't stop them from adding a second disc. I highly doubt that was the problem.

[Skyblade012]

Reorte wrote...

Ah, the sort of reply that would've defused quite a lot of ill feeling. Why isn't there more of this?

Edit: If there's missing dialogue due to a bug then hopefully a patch at some point is fairly likely.

Honestly, I have to ask, who didn't realize that this sort of comment would have saved the company a ton of fan rage three weeks ago?

[Galbrant]

So wait they had limited resources and they had the money to send ME3 copies into space? Not to mention they wasted money on the kinect and multiplayer which they could have added the other species gender and expand on a alternate Rachni missions. Artistic Integrity my quad.

[Neko Hibiki]

Dr_Hello wrote...

Neko Hibiki wrote...

Is the Extended DLC going to be free, or do we have to pay another $80 for it like we did the game?

Where have you been over the past days? Yes it'll be free, unless EA changes their mind... 

Very sick, very ill, and unable to tell up from down.

My feet and legs are swollen to huuuge size due to the parasites in them.

I can barely walk, my feet/legs hurt, and my legs seem to be leaking some strange/clear/sickly sweet fluid that is attracting every insect(ants) in the house and they bite... it hurts.

Does that answer your question now dude?

So forgive me if I hadn't heard about the Extended DLC being free download now.

[SolidisusSnake1]

[quote]Eragondragonrider wrote...

[quote]

 We also knew we'd have Vega
in order for new players to have someone dumber than they were.
[/quote]

[/quote]

This right here sound like a epic burn at CoD/BFers 

[/quote]

Actually I think people are taking this comment the wrong way, when he said "dumber than they were" he is not referring to a character who is an idiot. What he is saying is that Vega is a "fish out of water" character someone they can use to explain older plotlines to new players such as the Genophage. Mac Walters stated pre-release that this was the purpose of James character, hence why he is so heavily involved in the early missions.

[Dr_Hello]

Drenick18 wrote...

Weekes should have been lead writer .

If so, we would have certainly got a different ending, or perhaps somewhat similar but not broken and more closure.

BioWare has lost some of their great writers. Two I can think of right now are:
- Chris L'etoile who wrote Legion in ME2 and is also original writer for Thane, Samara, Ashley, and the Codex.
- Drew Karpyshyn who has been the lead story writer on many of BW games including Mass Effect's story and universe. Drew apparently is moving on to focussing on his novels and non-videogame related projects. His novels should be very interesting.

Modifié par Dr_Hello, 08 avril 2012 - 05:38 .

[Taritu]

This is what they should have done, what Casey or Mac should have done, weeks ago.

[pikey1969]

SolidisusSnake1 wrote...

Eragondragonrider wrote...

 We also knew we'd have Vega
in order for new players to have someone dumber than they were. 

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

This right here sound like a epic burn at CoD/BFers 

Actually I think people are taking this comment the wrong way, when he said "dumber than they were" he is not referring to a character who is an idiot. What he is saying is that Vega is a "fish out of water" character someone they can use to explain older plotlines to new players such as the Genophage. Mac Walters stated pre-release that this was the purpose of James character, hence why he is so heavily involved in the early missions.

once again, that'd be an example of a paraphrasing by the fan trying to recall this interview from memory several hours after the fact. 

Modifié par pikey1969, 08 avril 2012 - 05:41 .

[Whybother]

SolidisusSnake1 wrote...

Actually I think people are taking this comment the wrong way, when he said "dumber than they were" he is not referring to a character who is an idiot. What he is saying is that Vega is a "fish out of water" character someone they can use to explain older plotlines to new players such as the Genophage. Mac Walters stated pre-release that this was the purpose of James character, hence why he is so heavily involved in the early missions.

And it worked very well.  I think everyone here wanted to hate Vega but many of us were pleasantly surprised, both by the writing and the actor's performance. 

[Dr_Hello]

pikey1969 wrote...

SolidisusSnake1 wrote...

SolidisusSnake1 wrote... 

Eragondragonrider wrote...

 We also knew we'd have Vega
in order for new players to have someone dumber than they were. 

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

This right here sound like a epic burn at CoD/BFers 

Actually I think people are taking this comment the wrong way, when he said "dumber than they were" he is not referring to a character who is an idiot. What he is saying is that Vega is a "fish out of water" character someone they can use to explain older plotlines to new players such as the Genophage. Mac Walters stated pre-release that this was the purpose of James character, hence why he is so heavily involved in the early missions.

once again, that'd be an example of a paraphrasing by the fan trying to recall this interview from memory several hours after the fact. 

That's right. James Vega is a needed character in ME3 for new players who need a Mass Effect 101 lesson to catch up with the entire story.

Modifié par Dr_Hello, 08 avril 2012 - 05:44 .