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[Anduin The Grey]

vertigo72 wrote...

pikey1969 wrote...



-Why did EDI have cameltoe?

We don't get a lot of feedback from the art department but (unclear, wish I remembered this better  )

It's a plot-hole

Unless it has a story point aka, perfect illusion for infiltrating Mars base, a fully functional Android, which am pretty sure Joker will choke with glee when he finds out. The possibility of it being a plot hole is just too weak because it's so easy to fix without a retcon of any possible kind.

I prefer my plot holes canon-ised and good fodder for abuse at the pub

[LdyBelial]

Awesome post! Thanks for sharing the interview!!

Have to say... Impressive Mr. Weeks!

[apieros]

tobito113 wrote...

apieros wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...
That's exactly what I assumed but too many people on this forum were all "Oh noes everyone dies, galactic stone age! Doom and gloom! Whaaaaaaa"

Sorry? I thought you were against rage and hatred?

Hater, heal thyself. (Or at least stop applauding jerks and haters. It makes you look bad.)

how is pointing out the irrational and childish behaviour

And nothing says mature and adult like "Retakers are all crying babies! Hahaha!" Yup, perfectly mature and not at all arrogant and condescending and childish.

Well, this sort of thing must be acceptable too: 

It's the childish whining of the anti-Retakers that really kills me. "Waah! Mommie, those Retakers are being mean! Waah! They didn't like the ending! Waah! They're so evil! Waah!"

Good to know you think that's acceptable.

tobito113 wrote...
And there is no "hatred" in what Funkdrspot said, its just a humorous take on how people acted here...

And the above is a humorous take on your own positions and posts. Or is it?

Contempt, condescension, and a blanket declaration that everyone you disagree with is a crying, whining child is an expression of rage, and comes from hatred. That you deny it is... amusing.

Though, since denial is the coin of the realm for Antis, so it shouldn't surprise me. (See? "Humorous" take on you Antis. Thus, perfectly acceptable and reasonable and virtuous and a glorious, shining example of how to spread peace and love.)

[Anduin The Grey]

bboynexus wrote...

Anduin The Grey wrote...

bboynexus wrote...

I don't really see everybody's problem in accepting the logic of the destruction of the Relays at the end of ME3. The way in which the Crucible interacts with the Relay network - thereby destorying them - always seemed like a special case. I never felt as if their destruction mirrored the Alpha Relay's.

The problem was at the end of the Arrival DLC it implied that any destruction of the Relays destroyed the solar system it was located in.

You clearly didn't comprehend my post. No such thing was implied in Arrival. The only thing Arrival revealed was that when something of considerable size  closes in on a Relay at a fast enough speed, the Relay isn't capable of doing anything with it. When it smashes into the Relay there's a chain reaction of catalysmic forces at work.

In both Arrival and the end of ME3 we're dealing with two very different, very special and very unique cases. You'd be ****ing foolish to derive a 'norm' from the sample size of ****ing ONE.

You're welcome to search my back posts to verify how much I understood your post but I don't think it needs saying, it may have been obvious to some but it definitely wasn't obvious to others. As I am sure there are things in at least onee of the three trilogys you misunderstood that others had no problem with accepting.

The good news is, with a short casual interview a whole raft of more possibilities go from impossible to hopefully fact, my bemusement as with others is why they just didn't come out with some straight answers in the first place, I could blame EA but I've already promised to keep my tin foil hat locked away on that subject earlier in this thread

[ZajoE38]

This was mostly obvious when I finished the game. Destroyed mass relays are not a problem with Reaper tech all around. Because we know they can travel very fast.

[Kanon777]

OchreJelly wrote...
I really don't understand why there are not more casual dev-chats or blogs made by BioWare. Not saying that this is the same thing, as it is not direct quotes, but honest comments without the PR speak can be so refreshing.

Because if, for whatever reason, he cant do one of the things he talked about, people are going to trash his name like they are doing with Casey Hudson. Imo it was very stupid of him to do this interview, the fans might be calm for now but if there 1 single thing he cant deliver, the mob will turn on him. And it will be nasty.

Modifié par tobito113, 08 avril 2012 - 04:02 .

[apieros]

bboynexus wrote...
In both Arrival and the end of ME3 we're dealing with two very different, very special and very unique cases. You'd be ****ing foolish to derive a 'norm' from the sample size of ****ing ONE.

One... and the entire ME3 codex entry on destroying a Mass Relay. It's canon, officially stated in the same exact game.

Destroy a Relay = supernova.

That's not a foolish assumption, it's the only explicit text given on the subject in the game itself.

So, I guess it's "foolish" to expect the codex, which exists to define in-universe canon, to be correct? Or is it "foolish" to believe the codex? If so, which other parts of it should we disregard? Or is all of the codex just worthless?

Or is the ending worthless, for so casually disregarding the game's own canon? Canon the writers could have easily changed.

"Usually, Mass Relays explode. But, some theorized there are circumstances where that doesn't happen."

See? 10 words. Easy fix. No plot hole.

But I guess it's "foolish" to expect a game series lauded and noted for its comprehensive codex and strong internal consistency, to maintain that in the third game.

"Codex? Eh, whatever. Doesn't mean anything." Good to know.

Modifié par apieros, 08 avril 2012 - 04:06 .

[Jamie9]

tobito113 wrote...

OchreJelly wrote...
I really don't understand why there are not more casual dev-chats or blogs made by BioWare. Not saying that this is the same thing, as it is not direct quotes, but honest comments without the PR speak can be so refreshing.

Because if, for whatever reason, he cant do one of the things he talked about, people are going to trash his name like they are doing with Casey Hudson. Imo it was very stupid of him to do this interview, the fans might be calm for now but if there 1 single thing he cant deliver, the mob will turn on him. And it will be nasty.

Ummm... no. You know he did the majority of Tuchanka right? There are polls of people's favourite mission of ME3, and Tuchanka won by a big margin. Tuchanka was awesome!

[apieros]

tobito113 wrote...

people are going to trash his name [...] the fans might be calm for now but if there 1 single thing he cant deliver, the mob will turn on him. And it will be nasty.

Thanks for proving me right...

Again.

[Anduin The Grey]

What has he promised to deliver? Do we have anything concrete other than he hasn't totally denied what he's said on his twitter page?

[Cyberfrog81]

ZajoE38 wrote...

This was mostly obvious when I finished the game. Destroyed mass relays are not a problem with Reaper tech all around. Because we know' they can travel very fast.

Yeah, never mind the freaking huge relay "explosions" on the galaxy map, or the Stargazer scene strongly implying that space travel is just a dream for a distant future. (But Shepard is a Legend, yay. Now buy DLC.)

But apparently there was no reset button and the ME universe is fine. Good for you that this was so "obvious".

Modifié par Cyberfrog81, 08 avril 2012 - 04:11 .

[kimuji]

tobito113 wrote...

OchreJelly wrote...
I really don't understand why there are not more casual dev-chats or blogs made by BioWare. Not saying that this is the same thing, as it is not direct quotes, but honest comments without the PR speak can be so refreshing.

Because if, for whatever reason, he cant do one of the things he talked about, people are going to trash his name like they are doing with Casey Hudson. Imo it was very stupid of him to do this interview, the fans might be calm for now but if there 1 single thing he cant deliver, the mob will turn on him. And it will be nasty.

He's been stupid to talk with the fans. Right... Now the "pro-end" are trashing the developpement team when they don't act as they wish. Oh wait... isn't what they blame the "retakers" for? The "pro-end" vs "retakers" war is so stupid.

[UrgentArchengel]

It does indeed state that a "ruptured relay liberates enough energy to ruin any terrestrial world in the relay's solar system". So I suppose that ME3's relay destruction was probably due to overload, but that still doesn't excuse the execution of this. The endings still feel like spoilers with no context or information for them to go by.

[Anduin The Grey]

Actually if the behaviour in this thread is anything to go by looks like Tuchanka didn't just get the story right it got human nature right down to a tee. I mean if none of us can put aside previous differences what makes anyone think the Salarians would be willing to or that sadly those that have been bickering here on Earth for thousands of years or far less are going to be just as willing over something real and not a game.

[Mariyanna]

Weekes is awesome.

I have to echo the sentiment other people have been expressing. These are the kinds of honest and intelligent responses the upset fans have been begging and pleading for since March! If BioWare had just let someone, Weekes or another intelligent staff member, come forward and provide these kinds of answers, imagine how much more goodwill and less strife there would have been! Would it really have been that difficult?

I still hate the endings, but at least after reading Weekes' response I don't feel depressed and like all of my choices in the end game led to people being stranded/dying of starvation/etc.

[N7Infernox]

I applaud Mr. Weekes for clearing a lot of this up. Hopefully the expanded endings will elaborate on the concepts he explained.

Now my list of issues with the ending has been narrowed down to:
- the Starchild's whole scene (what he is,why he showed up last minute, how he works the Crucible and its space magic)
- the lack of Harbinger
- whether or not EDI & the Geth can survive the destroy ending
- how Shep can survive it (does it have to do with the Citadel's kinetic barriers?)
- how exactly will galactic civilization harness Reaper eezo cores in the Synthesis and Control endings
- the clip of the relays visibly exploding in the Destroy/Synthesis endings, instead of overloading like they do in Control

[txmn1016]

Read this last night and just wanted to reply. Patrick Weekes is just an awesome guy. One of my favorite writers and just nice as hell. Good on him for trying to give some honest answers.

Thanks to the OP for asking the tough questions and sharing the results with us.

[my Aim is True]

Thanks for posting this. I like Weekes, wish he was in charge.
Also help if Bioware hadn't sold their soul to the rEAper

[txmn1016]

Mariyanna wrote...

Weekes is awesome.

I have to echo the sentiment other people have been expressing. These are the kinds of honest and intelligent responses the upset fans have been begging and pleading for since March! If BioWare had just let someone, Weekes or another intelligent staff member, come forward and provide these kinds of answers, imagine how much more goodwill and less strife there would have been! Would it really have been that difficult?

I still hate the endings, but at least after reading Weekes' response I don't feel depressed and like all of my choices in the end game led to people being stranded/dying of starvation/etc.

Pretty much this.  I know they couldn't talk about the endings because of spoilers (for people in countries where the game hadn't come out yet), but at some point, someone really should have done this.  

Modifié par txmn1016, 08 avril 2012 - 04:23 .

[Brother Takka]

Thanks for the info.

[Anduin The Grey]

my Aim is True wrote...

Thanks for posting this. I like Weekes, wish he was in charge.
Also help if Bioware hadn't sold their soul to the rEAper

If you are willing to don a tin foil hat the answer to that is buried in this thread But as I've agreed to a few times already in this thread, am willing to keep my tin foil hat locked away, for now!

[jumpingkaede]

Shaigunjoe wrote...

Also, even if we can only travel at 4x light, the people traveling experience time dilution so they won't age a day in transit, like the Forever War novel.  And thats just one possibility.  Yes, there is speculation, but making your own conclusions about endings is more fun anyway, like Blade Runner or Minority Report.

Wha?   That's not even close to accurate, space magic be damned.

Time dilation just means they won't age relative to the rest of the universe (that isn't traveling at FTL speeds). 

Hypothetically: If it takes 4 years at FTL to reach, say, Thessia, then Joker on the Normandy will go from age 28--.32 by the end of the trip.

However, for someone at Thessia at age 108 waiting for Joker (let's say Liara is waiting there) by the time that Joker arrives Liara will go from 108-->124 (that is, 108 + 16 years not 4).

Numbers are made up.

FTL or travel at lightspeed isn't like being in a cryogenic chamber, lulz.   I don't know what happens in the Forever War Novel but if it's implied that traveling 4 years at FTL = DO NOT AGE AT ALL it's space magic of the most incredibly puzzling kind.  So if it would take someone from the Sol Relay 20 years at FTL to reach Rannoch they'll be 20 years older by the end of it.  However, by the time they actually arrive at Rannoch perhaps 100 years will have passed and everyone they knew or loved would be dead. 

Modifié par jumpingkaede, 08 avril 2012 - 04:26 .

[Anduin The Grey]

jumpingkaede wrote...

Shaigunjoe wrote...

Also, even if we can only travel at 4x light, the people traveling experience time dilution so they won't age a day in transit, like the Forever War novel.  And thats just one possibility.  Yes, there is speculation, but making your own conclusions about endings is more fun anyway, like Blade Runner or Minority Report.

Wha?   That's not even close to accurate, space magic be damned.

Time dilution just means they won't age relative to the rest of the universe (that isn't traveling at FTL speeds). 

Hypothetically: If it takes 4 years at FTL to reach, say, Thessia, then Joker on the Normandy will go from age 28--.32 by the end of the trip.

However, for someone at Thessia at age 108 waiting for Joker (let's say Liara is waiting there) by the time that Joker arrives Liara will go from 108-->124 (that is, 108 + 16 years not 4).

Numbers are made up.

FTL or travel at lightspeed isn't like being in a cryogenic chamber, lulz.   I don't know what happens in the Forever War Novel but if it's implied that traveling 4 years at FTL = DO NOT AGE AT ALL it's space magic of the most incredibly puzzling kind.  So if it would take someone from the Sol Relay 20 years at FTL to reach Rannoch they'll be 20 years older by the end of it.  However, by the time they actually arrive at Rannoch perhaps 100 years will have passed and everyone they knew or loved would be dead. 

Both arguments are moot if the Asari start building stargates on every planet, will they, not likely but it's sci-fi and any explanation is only limited by the imagination of the writers, so I shall continue to bask in my new hero worship for today, thankyou Weekes =)

[jumpingkaede]

my Aim is True wrote...

Thanks for posting this. I like Weekes, wish he was in charge.
Also help if Bioware hadn't sold their soul to the rEAper

Also like Weekes.  Good consistent character management and storytelling.  As far as I understand, my favorite parts of ME3 were his.  

Would give him a bonus if I was in charge. :happy:

[Kanon777]

kimuji wrote...
He's been stupid to talk with the fans. Right... Now the "pro-end" are trashing the developpement team when they don't act as they wish. Oh wait... isn't what they blame the "retakers" for? The "pro-end" vs "retakers" war is so stupid.

Come back to me when he tells everyone (like Jessica Merizan did many times) that he was just "speculating" with the fans and not making any promises. Or if the new ending explanations dosent include a "EDI/Geth survives destroy" option and we all go back to the same arguments we've been having these past weeks.

Imo this "interview" is a pretty good PR move to apease the retakers and for that reason you guys shouldnt put too much value to it. I would much rather trust Ray's statements over an "paraphrased interview".

And ultimatly im doing this for your sake (and for the sake of the little hope i have left for BSN), im satisfied with ME3 and im looking foward to the new content they will make and how they will improve the ending. But dont take indirect quotes like that as gospel truth, you will be dissapointed...

Modifié par tobito113, 08 avril 2012 - 04:34 .