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[Mathias]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Luiginius wrote...

Weekes said those were his statements seen through the eyes of the person asking the questions.
I don't know what other confirmation you could ask for. In no way is it accurate, Weekes said that himself, but it's still the best PR piece concerning bioware.
Done by a fan, answers given by a man in the writing team, no pr people in sight.
Paints a pretty clear picture what is the other issue bioware is having besides the ending.

You know, most of us in game development would love to have all the time in the world to make our games, but that doesn't mean we put something out that we don't believe is quality.

As for some of this specifics of the questions...

Of course joker wouldn't abandon Shepard for no reason, and yes - let's not underestimate FTL here let's also not forget about quantum communication...or the incredible store of food rations that the Normandy has.

Cmon - give us some time with the DLC, and let's try to avoid hatin' on Patrick or Jessica:P

I can't imagine the Normandy has THAT much food rations stored for Garrus and Tali. This would have to assume that ships could FTL to Gilligan's Planet within 2-3 months depending on how much they ration the food. This also is under the assumption that within those 2-3 months, contact with the Normandy is established quickly.

The implication from Mike's post there is that the Normandy is indeed rescued (or else why discuss their store of rations?). That is a major plus from me because my initial inclination was that the Stargazer scene was the Normandy's descendants and that they were never rescued.

The Normandy rescue is something I hope to see in the Extended Cut, especially since i chose Perfect Destroy.

[UnbornLeviathan]

 Excellent read, kudos on you for posting this.

[The Wumpus]

Hope this helps:



I think we can all move on now

Ah, very good.

Game of Thrones time. And then I seriously gotta get some work done...

[Darkeus]

Mr.House wrote...

So pretty much, Bioware was rushed.

Yep, that sounds wbout right to me.  Way to go EA....

[webhead921]

I'm really glad to hear some info from Bioware. I have a ton of faith that the extended cut DLC will be good. I mean, ME3 as a whole is great. I really hope the new ending lets the game go out with a bang!

[nevar00]

tobito113 wrote...

so youre saying none of the things i said would improve the catalyst scene?

What?  No I said it would go from being really, really, really bad to just being bad or maybe even mediocre.  Everything you said would make an improvement but improvement =/= good necessarily.

I disagree, even at the end of ME1 it was pretty obvious a conventional war with the Reapers was always going to be impossible.

Yes, which is why the Crucible, even as a DEM itself, is never really called out on as I think a lot of people expected something like that.

Secondly,
I still think the Omega Station looks a little too similar to the
Crucible to be a coincidence, the description in ME2 even matches,
partly and perhaps a little too vaguely.

I'm unsure of what you mean?  Omega is not the Crucible, Omega was built into an astoroid.  

Modifié par nevar00, 09 avril 2012 - 01:06 .

[Chaoswind]

OP post is valid

so dance Opsrbest!!! DANCE

[Anduin The Grey]

nevar00 wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

so youre saying none of the things i said would improve the catalyst scene?

What?  No I said it would go from being really, really, really bad to just being bad or maybe even mediocre.  Everything you said would make an improvement but improvement =/= good necessarily.

I disagree, even at the end of ME1 it was pretty obvious a conventional war with the Reapers was always going to be impossible.

Yes, which is why the Crucible, even as a DEM itself, is never really called out on as I think a lot of people expected something like that.

Secondly,
I still think the Omega Station looks a little too similar to the
Crucible to be a coincidence, the description in ME2 even matches,
partly and perhaps a little too vaguely.

I'm unsure of what you mean?  Omega is not the Crucible, Omega was built into an astoroid.  

The dimensions of the Crucible and the elegant simple design of the original station
 at Omega plus the fact that when you take of the armoured jacket of the Crucible off, both Omega Station looks remarkably a lot like the Crucible to me. I know it was built out of an asteroid, they mined out the asteroid to build the structure itself.

[Rashala]

WAIT A SECOND!!!!!!


If EDI can survive the Destroy ending that means So can the Geth....MORE PROOF of INDOC THEORY!!!

[kalasaurus]

Mike Gamble was in this thread and I missed it? D:

What did he say to any of the questions people asked? I am looking through the thread and can only find quotes of him.

[nevar00]

Also if Mr. Gamble comes back I had a question myself.

A lot of people are angry over some comments several folks on the Bioware team made before the game came out that are, at best, very stretched truths, and because of this a lot of people are feeling hurt, lied to, angry, and betrayed. Gamers in general seem to get fed false hype a lot of the time and are expected to go along with it, and a lot of the time they do: just look at Moyneaux. While a lot of these quotes were from Casey Hudson, Mike did say

"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…"

I'm just wondering if we could get some sort of clarification or explanation about this.

[Chaoswind]

Turian and Volus ships look alike... oh wai

[Anduin The Grey]

GlassElephant wrote...

Mike Gamble was in this thread and I missed it? D:

What did he say to any of the questions people asked? I am looking through the thread and can only find quotes of him.

Not very much at all, just a little reassurance that Starchild is not indestructible from the writers even if he is from the power of retcon, nobody starves in the Sol system and FTL can get much much better, better enough until Relays are reconstructed if neccessary =)

[nevar00]

Anduin The Grey wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

so youre saying none of the things i said would improve the catalyst scene?

What?  No I said it would go from being really, really, really bad to just being bad or maybe even mediocre.  Everything you said would make an improvement but improvement =/= good necessarily.

I disagree, even at the end of ME1 it was pretty obvious a conventional war with the Reapers was always going to be impossible.

Yes, which is why the Crucible, even as a DEM itself, is never really called out on as I think a lot of people expected something like that.

Secondly,
I still think the Omega Station looks a little too similar to the
Crucible to be a coincidence, the description in ME2 even matches,
partly and perhaps a little too vaguely.

I'm unsure of what you mean?  Omega is not the Crucible, Omega was built into an astoroid.  

The dimensions of the Crucible and the elegant simple design of the original station
 at Omega plus the fact that when you take of the armoured jacket of the Crucible off, both Omega Station looks remarkably a lot like the Crucible to me. I know it was built out of an asteroid, they mined out the asteroid to build the structure itself.

Okay so Omega looks like the Crucible, I get you... but what does this have to do with what you quoted?

[Mathias]

Since the Catalyst is here to stay then the next best thing for me is a happy ending. I'm just hoping the extended cut will have that depending on your choice.

[greggm2000]

Rashala wrote...

WAIT A SECOND!!!!!!


If EDI can survive the Destroy ending that means So can the Geth....MORE PROOF of INDOC THEORY!!!

Or that the godchild isn't fallible and doesn't understand things quite as well as it thought.

If the Normandy does in fact get rescued, and if Shep is still alive (but barely), then it'll be interested to see if that rescue time (time to get back to Earth) is around the same amount of time that Shep needs to recover/be healed. Not sure where I'm going with that, but....

[kalasaurus]

Anduin The Grey wrote...

GlassElephant wrote...

Mike Gamble was in this thread and I missed it? D:

What did he say to any of the questions people asked? I am looking through the thread and can only find quotes of him.

Not very much at all, just a little reassurance that Starchild is not indestructible from the writers even if he is from the power of retcon, nobody starves in the Sol system and FTL can get much much better, better enough until Relays are reconstructed if neccessary =)

That's some good news right there.  Thanks

[Emerald69]

CronoDragoon wrote...

For me the main problem is still the relays. Any ending requiring all your races to get back home in decades is going to be at least 75% bitter to me. I don't even care about the choices; the real problem is what happens after NO MATTER WHAT. Relays and Normandy crash. Those are the real nut punches.

Well seeing how the Quarians would need the longest time to get home( approx 23 years @12x light speed). And they are arguabley the best at rebuilding from scraps, they could stay around earth and help the humans rebuild relays or improve FTL drives using reaper tech( since theres plenty just lying around). While other(closer by species) could make the trip home in a reasonable time( 3years) and begin rebuilding some sort of relays in their system.
 It would take some time but it is very fisable that every species will see home again.

[Mathias]

Emerald69 wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

For me the main problem is still the relays. Any ending requiring all your races to get back home in decades is going to be at least 75% bitter to me. I don't even care about the choices; the real problem is what happens after NO MATTER WHAT. Relays and Normandy crash. Those are the real nut punches.

Well seeing how the Quarians would need the longest time to get home( approx 23 years @12x light speed). And they are arguabley the best at rebuilding from scraps, they could stay around earth and help the humans rebuild relays or improve FTL drives using reaper tech( since theres plenty just lying around). While other(closer by species) could make the trip home in a reasonable time( 3years) and begin rebuilding some sort of relays in their system.
 It would take some time but it is very fisable that every species will see home again.

Assuming you chose Destroy.

[K0M154R]

Assuming this is reliable.

Ahhhhhh, truth. It tastes so very good.

[Ytook]

For me the only way to keep what is there is the indoc theory, what is there is just so broken, it discards the themes and story of the rest of the series and has so many plot holes that it destroys the narrative consistency of the story.

If it were me I would have no grand choice ending. Grand choices are so large in scale that they naturally invalIdate or eclipse everything else you've done. Instead I would have the ending be culmination of all you're other choices. I would have the catalyst be a trap, a 'you must be X advanced to build this and are therefore advanced enough to defeat the reapers' so it was designed to get everyone there into a killing field. However the reapers are scared, they act aloof and superior but shepard's ability to unite scared them in me1 hence the hunting him/her down and the human reaper as a desperate attempt to bolster their forces. Shepards indoctrination was an equally desperate attempt to break the united forces, to see your ultimate leader turn against you and kill your leaders then themself would be a tad demoralising.

I would have whether you defeat the reapers come down to your EMS, Javik says the only reason they lost was because they were too hemoginised and inflexible. If you resisted the indoctrination Shepard lives through the ending, if not he/she realises and fights the indoctrinatIon afterwards but dies in the end. Then Shepard realises that the reapers aren't as powerful as they claim to be and all they've done has been out of despiration, you manage to defeat them if you have enough EMS (how much this victory costs your forces depends on you EMS), and your previous choices lead to whether your companions live (save the Rachni queen in 1? Then you have a Rachni force which helps stop something that would otherwise kill Liara for example).Then epilogue where you see the impact of your choices and the extent of your victory on the galaxy and friends. You don't need extra gameplay to do this ending (though a fight against harbinger of some kind would be cool).

However I am more than aware an ending like this is beyond unlikely and I would be utterly astounded if this kind of ending was used, but hey, I can dream.

[Mathias]

K0M154R wrote...

Assuming this is reliable.

Ahhhhhh, truth. It tastes so very good.

I would take it with a grain of salt. The things Mike mentioned might not even be in the Extended Cut.

[Anduin The Grey]

nevar00 wrote...

Anduin The Grey wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

so youre saying none of the things i said would improve the catalyst scene?

What?  No I said it would go from being really, really, really bad to just being bad or maybe even mediocre.  Everything you said would make an improvement but improvement =/= good necessarily.

I disagree, even at the end of ME1 it was pretty obvious a conventional war with the Reapers was always going to be impossible.

Yes, which is why the Crucible, even as a DEM itself, is never really called out on as I think a lot of people expected something like that.

Secondly,
I still think the Omega Station looks a little too similar to the
Crucible to be a coincidence, the description in ME2 even matches,
partly and perhaps a little too vaguely.

I'm unsure of what you mean?  Omega is not the Crucible, Omega was built into an astoroid.  

The dimensions of the Crucible and the elegant simple design of the original station
 at Omega plus the fact that when you take of the armoured jacket of the Crucible off, both Omega Station looks remarkably a lot like the Crucible to me. I know it was built out of an asteroid, they mined out the asteroid to build the structure itself.

Okay so Omega looks like the Crucible, I get you... but what does this have to do with what you quoted?

It means I like my plotholes and retcons put in unbreakable canon before I start kicking up a storm, everyone knows Han Solo shot first try telling SW fans he didn't, I wouldn't advise it though!

It's sci-fi, with a few words they can completely change the direction of a story, as long as they aren't dumb about it.

On a personal note, the reason I like musing over the whole Omega Station looks like the Crucible (maybe I wasn't wearing said tin foil hat when a Reaper passed too close near the Earth ), is it made me wonder why they would add a second Crucible, unless the first one got destroyed and had to use the second. TIM already took over the Crucible, are they just painting over an option they dropped or is this still something we have yet to see?

[Emerald69]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Emerald69 wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

For me the main problem is still the relays. Any ending requiring all your races to get back home in decades is going to be at least 75% bitter to me. I don't even care about the choices; the real problem is what happens after NO MATTER WHAT. Relays and Normandy crash. Those are the real nut punches.

Well seeing how the Quarians would need the longest time to get home( approx 23 years @12x light speed). And they are arguabley the best at rebuilding from scraps, they could stay around earth and help the humans rebuild relays or improve FTL drives using reaper tech( since theres plenty just lying around). While other(closer by species) could make the trip home in a reasonable time( 3years) and begin rebuilding some sort of relays in their system.
 It would take some time but it is very fisable that every species will see home again.

Assuming you chose Destroy.

I think that we can assume Destroy is basically the canon ending.

[Emerald69]

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