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Unofficial Interview with Patrick Weekes conducted by a fan at Pax - UPDATED


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pikey1969 wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

pikey1969 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Qutayba wrote...

I realize that this isn't official, but a few candid off-script interviews like this would do wonders for relations with fans. You feel like he gets our problems, even if he doesn't agree with everything. It's just human and honest. The cone of silence strategy wasn't smart.


Agreed.

Also +10 geek pts for the D&D reference.


D&D sux.


You're just jelly because D&D could easily own the entire Mass Effect setting. :)


yes sir dungone master sir, you're most probably the finest story teller of all!

pffft. you silly tabletop role players. >:P


Hey now without us silly tabletop players you young'uns wouldn't have your rpg vidya games.

Respect the oldschool geeks.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 08 avril 2012 - 01:23 .


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camcon2100 wrote...

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camcon2100 wrote...

Are you always this negative...I mean most of your posts here are just downright depressing. You may never be pleased, but could you maybe lower the torch for a couple minutes. I mean this writer is our only hope for a better ending. Hope I didn't come off as insulting just wishing for people to not burn everything before its even on the grill!
Much love,
Camcon!<3


I'm a realist. I appear negative because that's the impression the ending left on me.

You don't just destroy the infrastructure of the galaxy and leave people to assume it'll all get better.
You don't just destroy the Citadel and leave people to assume everybody inside is okay.

And so on. The last comment just made me facepalm, because if I want to see Star Wars I'll watch Star Wars.
The tactics in the codex would look awesome in game. Come on, ships making FTL jumps to appear behind a Reaper then blasting it in the ass? How would that not make for a great cutscene?

Thing is he is trying to fix it. It's obvious he really didn't have much to do with the ending. He is trying to fix it. Can we wait until we see it to begin the grilling?


I'll stop the grilling when I can have my little blue babies/adopted krogan babies/cute Shenko babies. Without committing galactic genocide. In that order.

*shakes fist*

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camcon2100 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

Are you always this negative...I mean most of your posts here are just downright depressing. You may never be pleased, but could you maybe lower the torch for a couple minutes. I mean this writer is our only hope for a better ending. Hope I didn't come off as insulting just wishing for people to not burn everything before its even on the grill!
Much love,
Camcon!<3


I'm a realist. I appear negative because that's the impression the ending left on me.

You don't just destroy the infrastructure of the galaxy and leave people to assume it'll all get better.
You don't just destroy the Citadel and leave people to assume everybody inside is okay.

And so on. The last comment just made me facepalm, because if I want to see Star Wars I'll watch Star Wars.
The tactics in the codex would look awesome in game. Come on, ships making FTL jumps to appear behind a Reaper then blasting it in the ass? How would that not make for a great cutscene?

Thing is he is trying to fix it. It's obvious he really didn't have much to do with the ending. He is trying to fix it. Can we wait until we see it to begin the grilling?


Assuming that old PA post was true (which I think it was) it's only because of Weekes' insistence that we got those final dialogues with our squadmates on Earth. Can you imagine this ending without those goodbyes?

I think this guy knows exactly what we want, and if he needs to create new plotholes to fix old ones while making it canon that everyone is not screwed....so be it. He didn't create the ending, but he's gotta roll with it.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 08 avril 2012 - 01:25 .


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CronoDragoon wrote...

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why didnt this interview ask about indoctrination i wonder, especially since the theory is rather large with alot of fan backing (even bioware basically said it a pax), yet this interview has not one single sentance to it.

I smell fake....


it's pretty clear to everyone except hardcore IT people that it was not intended by Bioware.

Hey mate, i enjoyed the ending originally (except normandy part) but then i saw the indoc theory and it just made much more sense, especailly after i played Me2 and 3 again.
But when i listen to "an end once and for all" when it gets to the normandy scene i just picture harbinger and some reapers trying to outrun the control wave instead.
BUt really indoc theory would make a more interesting and better ending, since the mass relays stay and the whole galaxy doesnt get nuked.


Wasn't trying to diss IT people at all, I think it's a really cool idea and, if true, would have been a spectacular mindscrew by Bioware. And yes, I'm all for any ending that doesn't destroy the relays. I just think by now it's clear it was not intended.

That aside mate, what did you think of my solution for the normandy running away.
Have iy show harbinger running away instead, i can see it now
"Shepard will not assume direct control of meeeeeeeeeeeeeee."
It would be similar to unicrons last words in the transformers movie
"its my destinyyyyyyyyyy!"

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The Angry One wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

Are you always this negative...I mean most of your posts here are just downright depressing. You may never be pleased, but could you maybe lower the torch for a couple minutes. I mean this writer is our only hope for a better ending. Hope I didn't come off as insulting just wishing for people to not burn everything before its even on the grill!
Much love,
Camcon!<3


I'm a realist. I appear negative because that's the impression the ending left on me.

You don't just destroy the infrastructure of the galaxy and leave people to assume it'll all get better.
You don't just destroy the Citadel and leave people to assume everybody inside is okay.

And so on. The last comment just made me facepalm, because if I want to see Star Wars I'll watch Star Wars.
The tactics in the codex would look awesome in game. Come on, ships making FTL jumps to appear behind a Reaper then blasting it in the ass? How would that not make for a great cutscene?

Thing is he is trying to fix it. It's obvious he really didn't have much to do with the ending. He is trying to fix it. Can we wait until we see it to begin the grilling?


I'll stop the grilling when I can have my little blue babies/adopted krogan babies/cute Shenko babies. Without committing galactic genocide. In that order.

*shakes fist*


Hopefully soon my friend hopefully soon (ish).

#156
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The Angry One wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

Are you always this negative...I mean most of your posts here are just downright depressing. You may never be pleased, but could you maybe lower the torch for a couple minutes. I mean this writer is our only hope for a better ending. Hope I didn't come off as insulting just wishing for people to not burn everything before its even on the grill!
Much love,
Camcon!<3


I'm a realist. I appear negative because that's the impression the ending left on me.

You don't just destroy the infrastructure of the galaxy and leave people to assume it'll all get better.
You don't just destroy the Citadel and leave people to assume everybody inside is okay.

And so on. The last comment just made me facepalm, because if I want to see Star Wars I'll watch Star Wars.
The tactics in the codex would look awesome in game. Come on, ships making FTL jumps to appear behind a Reaper then blasting it in the ass? How would that not make for a great cutscene?

Thing is he is trying to fix it. It's obvious he really didn't have much to do with the ending. He is trying to fix it. Can we wait until we see it to begin the grilling?


I'll stop the grilling when I can have my little blue babies/adopted krogan babies/cute Shenko babies. Without committing galactic genocide. In that order.

*shakes fist*


ha! dream on lady.

and seriously? shenko? i'd rather date the group of fans that did the questioning at the Pax panel.

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The keepers stopped the Reapers from taking over..... WHAT.THE.****.IS.HAPPENING?!
EDI survives somehow even though she's made of Reaper tech. Seriously am I dreaming this?

I had hopes for this extended cut but now.... ugh.


Assuming this is real, he made those two up on the spot. I'm 99% sure.


Oh please be made up on the spot he was one of the best writers.

I wonder if it would be better if this interview was fake.

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If it's true that everyone except for Walters and Hudson were locked out of working on the ending, I think Patrick Weekes deserves a bit of a break. He seems like a cool guy.

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Patrick Weekes, you're my homeboy.

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M0keys wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

legion999 wrote...

The keepers stopped the Reapers from taking over..... WHAT.THE.****.IS.HAPPENING?!
EDI survives somehow even though she's made of Reaper tech. Seriously am I dreaming this?

I had hopes for this extended cut but now.... ugh.


Assuming this is real, he made those two up on the spot. I'm 99% sure.


Guessing since the guy forgot what Patrick Weekes said about the Keepers, it was actually a part of the Prothean scientists' plan. If they found out how to manipulate the Citadel, maybe they found out how to keep the Reapers from controlling the Mass Relays. Yeah, it's not entirely solid, but it's a decent enough retcon that I feel a little better about it.

And being being Reaper tech...partially... I can kinda see it since she was built by Cerberus, wasn't she?


The thing is, the Citadel signal was altered in such a way for the Keepers to ignore it.
But the Keepers still respond to commands from the Citadel itself. They will not countermand or interfere with commands given internally.

This is why Sovereign was interfacing with the Citadel, to give commands through the Citadel's systems.
If they're saying that the Keepers will in fact countermand orders given from within the Citadel then....... the end of ME1 was pointless.

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Apollo-XL5 wrote...
That aside mate, what did you think of my solution for the normandy running away.
Have iy show harbinger running away instead, i can see it now
"Shepard will not assume direct control of meeeeeeeeeeeeeee."
It would be similar to unicrons last words in the transformers movie
"its my destinyyyyyyyyyy!"


Lol. I just pictured this is my head. Funny as hell.

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Hey folks, these are my notes on the conversation, as posted to SomethingAwful from my memory of the conversation hours after the fact. I had no recorder and no notepad because I didn't expect to have this opportunity at all.

This was NOT a formal interview. Patrick was incredibly saintly, generous, and kind - he simply stood with a group of fans along with John Dombrow and talked to us after the panel on BioWare comics. He spoke in good faith.

I shouldn't have said some of the things I did in the quoted post - particularly about Mr. Weekes not liking the ending. Mr. Weekes was extraordinarily courteous and understanding with his responses to fan inquiry, but he is also a valuable member of a team, and we shouldn't try to belittle other writers and lionize Mr. Weekes at their expense.

Every BioWare employee I met was polite, professional, friendly, and understanding. Mr. Chris Priestly did a wonderful job moderating.

I really don't want any of the content of this discussion to be turned against Mr. Weekes. I'm already feeling nervous about my decision to post it - I worry I betrayed his trust or confidence.

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Out of interest, can anyone link or PM me the context of what Weeks "said" over at PA?

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The Angry One wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

Are you always this negative...I mean most of your posts here are just downright depressing. You may never be pleased, but could you maybe lower the torch for a couple minutes. I mean this writer is our only hope for a better ending. Hope I didn't come off as insulting just wishing for people to not burn everything before its even on the grill!
Much love,
Camcon!<3


I'm a realist. I appear negative because that's the impression the ending left on me.

You don't just destroy the infrastructure of the galaxy and leave people to assume it'll all get better.
You don't just destroy the Citadel and leave people to assume everybody inside is okay.

And so on. The last comment just made me facepalm, because if I want to see Star Wars I'll watch Star Wars.
The tactics in the codex would look awesome in game. Come on, ships making FTL jumps to appear behind a Reaper then blasting it in the ass? How would that not make for a great cutscene?

Thing is he is trying to fix it. It's obvious he really didn't have much to do with the ending. He is trying to fix it. Can we wait until we see it to begin the grilling?


I'll stop the grilling when I can have my little blue babies/adopted krogan babies/cute Shenko babies. Without committing galactic genocide. In that order.

*shakes fist*


I'll make you a deal: When the extended cut DLC comes out, and if the destroy ending has blue babies, send me your Shepard's save file and I'll do all the endings for you, and then recut the ending cutscenes so that it looks like you chose another ending and still got to reunite with your team.

It's not optimal, but maybe you could accept it in your head :D

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ha! dream on lady.

and seriously? shenko? i'd rather date the group of fans that did the questioning at the Pax panel.


I know several hardcore Kaidan lovers I can pass your name onto... :whistle:

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Hey now without us silly tabletop players you young'uns wouldn't have your rpg vidya games.

Respect the oldschool geeks.


naw, blizzard/bioware would have found something else good to build their games (Diablo/Baldur's) on.

stamina
mana
agility
str
intellect

about sums up anything good you've contributed to society. that'll be all. 

/sigh i used to be a lot better at trolling DnD peeps. =/

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M0keys wrote...

I'll make you a deal: When the extended cut DLC comes out, and if the destroy ending has blue babies, send me your Shepard's save file and I'll do all the endings for you, and then recut the ending cutscenes so that it looks like you chose another ending and still got to reunite with your team.

It's not optimal, but maybe you could accept it in your head :D


lol I think headcanon may be the final hope for me in the end.

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Galactic civilization will rebuild. The mass relays were not necessary for interstellar flight. Remember, what does it say in the Codex about the speed of ships? That's right, 12 lightyears per (day? hour? minute?). And that's only the cruising speed, not the maximum speed.


I think some other may have already addressed this but twelve lightyears a day is still quite slow. The galaxy itself is about 120,000 lightyears wide at maximum, which means traveling from one side to the other could easily take 10,000 years. Given the fact that Rannoch, Ilium, and Omega are all on the opposite side of the galaxy from Earth, that doesn't make the chances of any kind of homecoming for the quarians, Aria, or anyone from Ilium likely at all.

Granted, he called that "cruising speed," but I doubt maximum speed for more than a handful of ships is going to be much faster.

Let's also not forget this, which actually is from the Codex:

Mass Effect 3 Primary Codex Entry: Mass Relays (emphasis mine) wrote...

Once believed to be of Prothean origin, mass relays were in fact created by the Reapers using technology far beyond that of other living species. The enormous structures, scattered throughout the stars, create corridors of virtually mass-free space. This allows instantaneous transit between locations normally separated by years or even centuries using conventional FTL drives.


So, yeah, conventional FTL isn't going to cut it, even without bringing the real-life vastness of space into the equation.

I appreciate what Mr. Weekes is trying to do and say here and he's clearly being supportive of his colleagues, even if he doesn't necessarily agree with their decisions. And I even think many of his answers are satisfying to one degree or another.

The issue of the Mass Relays dooming galactic civilization to an indeterminably long dark age is, however, not so easily resolved.

Modifié par Nivenus, 08 avril 2012 - 01:29 .


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General Battuta wrote...

Hey folks, these are my notes on the conversation, as posted to SomethingAwful from my memory of the conversation hours after the fact. I had no recorder and no notepad because I didn't expect to have this opportunity at all.

This was NOT a formal interview. Patrick was incredibly saintly, generous, and kind - he simply stood with a group of fans along with John Dombrow and talked to us after the panel on BioWare comics. He spoke in good faith.

I shouldn't have said some of the things I did in the quoted post - particularly about Mr. Weekes not liking the ending. Mr. Weekes was extraordinarily courteous and understanding with his responses to fan inquiry, but he is also a valuable member of a team, and we shouldn't try to belittle other writers and lionize Mr. Weekes at their expense.

Every BioWare employee I met was polite, professional, friendly, and understanding. Mr. Chris Priestly did a wonderful job moderating.

I really don't want any of the content of this discussion to be turned against Mr. Weekes. I'm already feeling nervous about my decision to post it - I worry I betrayed his trust or confidence.


I wouldn't worry man I think mostly people are just happy to have heard anything from one of the Bioware guys and the opinion seems mostly positive.

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The Angry One wrote...

The thing is, the Citadel signal was altered in such a way for the Keepers to ignore it.
But the Keepers still respond to commands from the Citadel itself. They will not countermand or interfere with commands given internally.

This is why Sovereign was interfacing with the Citadel, to give commands through the Citadel's systems.
If they're saying that the Keepers will in fact countermand orders given from within the Citadel then....... the end of ME1 was pointless.


If they run with this retcon, then they'd have to say that Vigil's virus corrupted the system permanantly. That way, ME1 keeps it's tension.

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Great thread....and some more interesting info than I usually see on the forum....


But am I honestly the only one that can say that none of these would've been in my Top 5 Questions?....

How do you not ask about Starchild first and foremost?

How is Shepard alive in the destroy ending? Where is he?

Why could The Illusive Man control Shepard and Anderson?

Why the Crucible and not Dark Energy?

What about the many varying endings based on our decisions?(like ME2's Suicide Mission)


He seemed more straight-forward then the other responses we've been hearing from Bioware....but would he give me clear cut answers to any of these questions?

Probably not....but he would've said something that could've at least been "Speculated"

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The Angry One wrote...

Also thanix cannons. Y U NO FIRE THANIX CANNONS?

They do if your EMS is high enough...

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Bill Casey, 08 avril 2012 - 01:29 .


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Assuming that old PA post was true (which I think it was) it's only because of Weekes' insistence that we got those final dialogues with our squadmates on Earth. Can you imagine this ending without those goodbyes?

I think this guy knows exactly what we want, and if he needs to create new plotholes to fix old ones while making it canon that everyone is not screwed....so be it. He didn't create the ending, but he's gotta roll with it.

Hadn't heard that rumour. Fair play to the guy if it's true, it certainly sounds like he was responsible for a lot of what was good about ME3. Pity it was all overshadowed.

No final dialogues originally planned? So someone thought that it was a good idea to simply and suddenly forget about the characters once you got so far, as if our interest in them only went as far as picking the ones with the set of powers we wanted for a given mission? The mind boggles.

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The Angry One wrote...

pikey1969 wrote...

ha! dream on lady.

and seriously? shenko? i'd rather date the group of fans that did the questioning at the Pax panel.


I know several hardcore Kaidan lovers I can pass your name onto... :whistle:


pfft bring em on. i will just 'charm' them all by saying the following in a real raspy voice...

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oh my childhood so dark, my soul hurts.

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hey shepard.
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you suck i hate you i dont trust you.


fickle, blank-slate of a broken man. 

i take pity on you more than i take pity on the people that obsess over germaphobic spacegoats.

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Do we know that this is even for realz?