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[PaulRodney]

 I find myself constantly going back to sniper rifles whenever i use assault rifles, which is surprising seeing as how im the worse sniper in other games. 

[awesomeduo]

In SP, they are really good, since headshots deal 2.5X damage, and they have that slowdown mod

[Jestina]

Assault rifle plus adrush equals lots of dead stuff. Soldiers are not as good as they were in the previous two games but they still do okay.

[goofyomnivore]

Low damage/high rof weapons in general are inferior to high damage/slow rof. Inferno Ammo kind of makes that reverse, but other than that is pretty consistent IMO.

[tractrpl]

Yeah, I'm a sniper in SP, but I can't snipe for sh** in MP. I can't get headshots in without the slowdown. However, I think I'm going to get an asari adept, use stasis, then couple that with a sniper rifle should allow me to do headshots in MP.

[BillyCapron]

Do I think snipers are overpowered compared to assault rifles? Yes. Because that's how they are supposed to be. Snipers use large bullets. Assault rifles shoot much smaller bullets.

[JaegerBane]

PaulRodney wrote...

 I find myself constantly going back to sniper rifles whenever i use assault rifles, which is surprising seeing as how im the worse sniper in other games. 

I think its more that this game has some very good sniper rifles (Valiant, Black Widow) and some very crap assault rifles (Argus, Valkyrie).

Hence you could get that impression. The thing is the game also has some very good assault rifles too (Revenant, Particle Rifle, GPR) so its a case of just picking the right one.

[Navasha]

Well, personally I don't ever use sniper rifles as they are too heavy. I can get nearly almost a full 200% global cooldown with the Mattock AR.

Depends on your playstyle. For me... Powers are better than weapons. Using a widow to off an assault trooper is just overkill.

Modifié par Navasha, 08 avril 2012 - 12:33 .

[termokanden]

Honestly I think sniper rifles generally do as well as they should (with some notable exceptions). The automatic weapons in this game seem underpowered, on the other hand.

[Rasofe]

I find myself to often be the only Assault Rifle guy on the field when I play Soldier (Silver). Everyone else is sitting back near the ammo crates, sniping. I like to be taking fire when I'm killing stuff, keeps me interested.

No such thing as Comparative OP in a Coop Multiplayer game or SP Campaign.

I like how they improved the fact the sniper rifles take ages to reload though. It adds a nice spice to the game.

[JaegerBane]

termokanden wrote...

Honestly I think sniper rifles generally do as well as they should (with some notable exceptions). The automatic weapons in this game seem underpowered, on the other hand.

Uh.... I can agree some automatic weapons in the game are a bit naff but I'm not sure I'd say they're all underpowered. Things like the Eagle, GPR and Particle Rifle don't seem underpowered.

[Athenau]

GPR is abusive with explosive ammo and terrible without it. Frankly, since Eric Fagnan posted that the incendiary explosion should have a 1 sec cooldown (it doesn't seem to be working currently) the combination may very well be an exploit.

The particle rifle doesn't need ammo procs to be amazing, but it's DLC so not everyone will have access to it.

[Jestina]

I wouldn't call the revenent a good assault weapon. It's damage is way under what it should be. It's more like an automatic bb gun. The only balanced assault rifle in the game is the vindicator. They tend to suck even more now without overkill from ME1 and adrush being gimped in ME3.

[The_Shootist]

PaulRodney wrote...

 I find myself constantly going back to sniper rifles whenever i use assault rifles, which is surprising seeing as how im the worse sniper in other games. 

I got mah M-99 Saber, I don't need anything else.

[Firesteel]

All the full auto ARs are excellent as a soldier since you can make explosive incendiary even more broken thanks to the +40% effectiveness passive. The Avenger actually becomes quite viable with this setup, as does virtually every gun in the game, though automatics benefit the most from this anyways.

[Abraham_uk]

PaulRodney wrote...

I find myself constantly going back to sniper rifles whenever i use assault rifles, which is surprising seeing as how im the worse sniper in other games.

I tend to find weapons quite frustrating. I mostly rely on my powers for what it's worth. Also concentration mods and infiltrators tactical cloak come in handy.

When it comes to sniper rifles they are fantastic one hit kills weapons. But they require the greatest amount of skill.

The only way for someone like me to excel is with cryo blast or stasis.

Widows, black widow and javlin are extremely powerful. Weapons. Going guns blazing gets boring after a while. Power spamming is great fun. Especially when you have many powers at your disposal. Snipers however give me the opportunity to on hit kill foes. But each miss is costly.

[Solmanian]

JaegerBane wrote...

PaulRodney wrote...

 I find myself constantly going back to sniper rifles whenever i use assault rifles, which is surprising seeing as how im the worse sniper in other games. 

I think its more that this game has some very good sniper rifles (Valiant, Black Widow) and some very crap assault rifles (Argus, Valkyrie).

Hence you could get that impression. The thing is the game also has some very good assault rifles too (Revenant, Particle Rifle, GPR) so its a case of just picking the right one.

Srsly? Those are two of the best guns in the game... Argus+stability mod = One burst kill for mooks. It's the only gun, of all kinds, that does well against armored enemies like brutes and banshees. It can dish out some serious DPS.
The valkyrie is the best weapon in average. It's like avenger on steroids: Incredibly accurate combined with high RoF and decent damage, makes it the goto gun when you don't know what you're gonna face. The only reason I stoppped using it, is because it made the game too easy, and I couldn't enjoy without some chalenge...
I'd also like to recommend the indra. The one-hit-kill might frown at it, and vote for the widow (I myself very much enjoy using the black widow), but for people who like to keep their weight down it's a gun that gives you an assault rifle and sniper rifle for the price of one realy light gun. And for people who are just bad shots, it allow you to trail your shots and has ridiculos ammount of ammo (300-400 if i'm not mistaken).

[Solmanian]

The_Shootist wrote...

PaulRodney wrote...

 I find myself constantly going back to sniper rifles whenever i use assault rifles, which is surprising seeing as how im the worse sniper in other games. 

I got mah M-99 Saber, I don't need anything else.

Psh, the most overrated gun in the game. An assault rifle that tries to be a sniper rifle, and fails misserable at both jobs...

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snipers are not overpowered imo. Give yourself some credit, I think you are just good at it in me3.

[Abraham_uk]

SMG's, pistols and assault rifles require the least amount of skill. Shotguns require some skill (mostly stealth skills or failing that a lot of hitpoints). Sniper rifles in general require the highest proficency when it comes to marksmanship, stealth and evasion.

Sure snipers are one hit kills weapons.

But they're also the least fogiving type of weapon. One miss can put you at a tactical disadvantage (in a game where every second counts). One missed enemy is the same damn enemy that closes in on your position.

The time it takes to line up the perfect shot is time the enemies have for flanking you. Without the aide of cryo blast/ammo or stasis, the sniper player is at a major disadvantage.

Raptor is the sniper rifle for people like me who are feable. But then I might as well go for the falcon assault rifle with a scope, or a mattock. Heck a scoped phalanx or paladin would be better than a raptor.

You must be one fantastic sniper if you think snipers are overpowered because I always struggled there.

What console are you on? XBOX 360, PC or PS3 (please say PS3 because I could use a fantastic sniper for online).

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 08 avril 2012 - 07:06 .

[JaegerBane]

Solmanian wrote...
Srsly? Those are two of the best guns in the game... Argus+stability mod = One burst kill for mooks. It's the only gun, of all kinds, that does well against armored enemies like brutes and banshees. It can dish out some serious DPS.
The valkyrie is the best weapon in average. It's like avenger on steroids: Incredibly accurate combined with high RoF and decent damage, makes it the goto gun when you don't know what you're gonna face. The only reason I stoppped using it, is because it made the game too easy, and I couldn't enjoy without some chalenge...

The point is that they single-handedly destroy you cooldown and don't really give you much more than what you'd get from any of the lighter assault rifles. They're not underpowered weapons by any means, they're just not worth their weight.

[Solmanian]

JaegerBane wrote...

Solmanian wrote...
Srsly? Those are two of the best guns in the game... Argus+stability mod = One burst kill for mooks. It's the only gun, of all kinds, that does well against armored enemies like brutes and banshees. It can dish out some serious DPS.
The valkyrie is the best weapon in average. It's like avenger on steroids: Incredibly accurate combined with high RoF and decent damage, makes it the goto gun when you don't know what you're gonna face. The only reason I stoppped using it, is because it made the game too easy, and I couldn't enjoy without some chalenge...

The point is that they single-handedly destroy you cooldown and don't really give you much more than what you'd get from any of the lighter assault rifles. They're not underpowered weapons by any means, they're just not worth their weight.

What you gonna do? in ME3 weight=firepower. I don't like it since my soldier has a 45sec CD on andrenaline rush... But I don't make the rules. Most of the cases, either bring a heavy weapon or bring nothing at all. SMG are a complete waste of what little weight they take, all they gonna do is ****** your enemy off. The less your gun weigh, the more useless it is, and the siper rifles mentioned are among the heaviest in the game. Better one heavy, than two lights, especialy since you cant go guns akimbo with your pistol/smg (that would've been cool, and make make this two useless weapon classes actualy worth while). The only pistol I liked shutpistol revolver (don't remember the name), you could use him as a shutgun and with a scope it made an excelent midrange sniper rifle. I was downing those assault trooper like its going out of style.

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Solmanian wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

Solmanian wrote...
Srsly? Those are two of the best guns in the game... Argus+stability mod = One burst kill for mooks. It's the only gun, of all kinds, that does well against armored enemies like brutes and banshees. It can dish out some serious DPS.
The valkyrie is the best weapon in average. It's like avenger on steroids: Incredibly accurate combined with high RoF and decent damage, makes it the goto gun when you don't know what you're gonna face. The only reason I stoppped using it, is because it made the game too easy, and I couldn't enjoy without some chalenge...

The point is that they single-handedly destroy you cooldown and don't really give you much more than what you'd get from any of the lighter assault rifles. They're not underpowered weapons by any means, they're just not worth their weight.

What you gonna do? in ME3 weight=firepower. I don't like it since my soldier has a 45sec CD on andrenaline rush... But I don't make the rules. Most of the cases, either bring a heavy weapon or bring nothing at all. SMG are a complete waste of what little weight they take, all they gonna do is ****** your enemy off. The less your gun weigh, the more useless it is, and the siper rifles mentioned are among the heaviest in the game. Better one heavy, than two lights, especialy since you cant go guns akimbo with your pistol/smg (that would've been cool, and make make this two useless weapon classes actualy worth while). The only pistol I liked shutpistol revolver (don't remember the name), you could use him as a shutgun and with a scope it made an excelent midrange sniper rifle. I was downing those assault trooper like its going out of style.

some people like to play adepts or engineers.  there's no need for guns

[JaegerBane]

Solmanian wrote...
What you gonna do? in ME3 weight=firepower. I don't like it since my soldier has a 45sec CD on andrenaline rush... But I don't make the rules.

As I said, you can pick other assault rifles that weigh the same and get far more power. The Particle Rifle's DPS walks all over both rifles, for instance, and doesn't need any mods to do it.

Or, you can go for the vindicator, which does about a measly 10 less damage per shot on the Valkyrie but weighs less than a third.

The point is that if you want loads of firepower, you can get loads more for the same weight, or you can skimp a bit and get cooldowns that are 60%+ faster.

In ME3, weight doesn't necessarily equal equivalent firepower... just look at the Paladin. Besides, if you're playing on PC, you *can* make the rules via modding

[XavierHollywood]

JaegerBane wrote...

PaulRodney wrote...

 I find myself constantly going back to sniper rifles whenever i use assault rifles, which is surprising seeing as how im the worse sniper in other games. 

I think its more that this game has some very good sniper rifles (Valiant, Black Widow) and some very crap assault rifles (Argus, Valkyrie).

Hence you could get that impression. The thing is the game also has some very good assault rifles too (Revenant, Particle Rifle, GPR) so its a case of just picking the right one.

BLASPHEMY!  The Valkyrie was the destoryer of worlds in my Insanity playthrough.  High rate of fire, good power, pinpoint three round burst, light enough to give you a 200% cooldown (as a soldier).  Cant ask for much more.