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[mauro2222]

kbct wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

I heard somewhere that they are contacting the VAs... I'm skeptic about it, but does anyone have any solid info about it?

They haven't contacted the VAs yet, but I think I read they plan to. Not sure when though. However, they will need to contact them if they want to plug some of the plotholes.

Indeed, and thanks. It wasn't my head trying to fool me after all

[_FLANDERS]

IF Bioware is hearing what the fans are saying, then a Gensis style cut would be nice where you have the end that is there or the endind that most of us where looking for but who will know IF.. So take your time and get it right, we are the ones who Buy all the gear and books and etc from your store. Better ending

[chotito]

[grimkillah]

kbct wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

I heard somewhere that they are contacting the VAs... I'm skeptic about it, but does anyone have any solid info about it?

They haven't contacted the VAs yet, but I think I read they plan to. Not sure when though. However, they will need to contact them if they want to plug some of the plotholes.

They wouldn't plug the plotholes, the dlc comes out in summer, the retake movement would be dead by then, no one would care and they can keep their artistic integrity, I don't think I would even bother to download the DLC if it is not completely reworked into 16 vastly different endings, otherwise, no replay value, no choice in ending, still the same crap, just highly polished crap.

[mauro2222]

chotito wrote...

Mass Genesis: Shepardgelion

[chotito]

mauro2222 wrote...

chotito wrote...

Mass Genesis: Shepardgelion

Modifié par chotito, 08 avril 2012 - 08:56 .

[Get Magna Carter]

 I suspect patrick Weekes was being evasive/misleading and the truth is...
IT is genuine

Modifié par Get Magna Carter, 08 avril 2012 - 08:59 .

[grimkillah]

Get Magna Carter wrote...

 I suspect patrick Weekes was being evasive/misleading and the truth is...
IT is genuine

I think IT is dead, the theory was perfect, just too good for the likes of BioWare. IT deserve a better game/developer.

[aries1001]

In the thread in the story and spoiler section about this fan interview with Patrick Weekes we all agreed that Patrick Weekes gave straight answers and admitted that the game as rushed. And yes, sometimes you have to meet a deadline. I can give you two examples from the game development world, Duke Nukem Forever and an adventure game developer. The adventure game developer make brilliant game way back in 2006, his next game, called Bracken Tor, should have gone out in late 2009/early 2010, yet after 5½-6 years, it it not published yet.

And why, because he didn' have any publisher pressuring mildly to get the game out the door, he just added content after content after content. Instead of cutting things and ship the game in early 2010. And then make a sequel with the cut material two years after the release of the game. Actually, Koch Media and Deep Silver have bow said that if the game isn't ready by June 15th 2012, he can go find another publisher for Germany - the largest adventure game market in the world. That's what publsihers are supposed to be doing, making sure meet their deadlines. In the case of ME3, yes the game was rushed. And yes, it was to add Kinect and Multiplayer to the game. And to add this, ot didn't that someone from Bioware told the fans in this community that there'll be no multiplayer in ME3 1 day before the actual announcements were made. That's why I think people at the forums, and most fans generally feel they can't believe or trust what anyone from EA and Bioware say.

I'm in the camp that generally believes or trust Bioware's staff and devs. but then again, maybe I'm a bit jaded because my mom and and owned a clothing factory when I was younger, so I know how this goes. Bioware's staff and devs can't say anything to us, the fans, before the stock market has gotten the news, in a press release, that there will be kinect or multiplayer in Mass Effect 3, because this could affect the stock in a positive or negative way. And Bioware/EA are required to, by law, to make a public announcement about there being multi-player in Mass Effect 3 before telling us here at the BSN (to prevent what is known as insider trading...) As for why there is MP in the game, it is pretty clear to me: EA and Bioware's top-management has decided that this is where the company needs to go strategically, tactically and financially. Why this is so, I do not know.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Someone needs to tell EA that the average gamer is now well over 35+ (around 38-40, I believe). And that there's a market for good market with adult themes in them. And by adult themes I don't mean what someone's around mentions as "EDI's cameltoe" or every girl etc. in the game having enormous breast etc. But games that deals with mature philosophical content asking the hard questions like the ME games have done and do e.g. why are we here? Will we travel in space one day etc. etc. Is it right for man to decide to cure a whole species or not? Or will manking be organic or synthetic in the future or is there a middleway here?

As I've read and watched the endings and read about them both in this forum and others as well, I have the distinct feeling that what Weekes said in the fan interview with him at PAX East are correct: Bioware wanted the ending to turn out a certain way, but due to time constraints for various reasons, the endings didn't get presented in the right manner and in the correct way to the player/gamer in ME3.

Also, I'll jsut re-iterate (re-say) what I've said about the ghost in the machine in ths thread as well: Imo, Bioware better have a good explanation for why he/she? is being there all as to me it sound like a more than ghost in the machine thing, it sounds like some sort of intelligent being that says that he's created the reapers for various reasons or a specifik purpose. I'm a spiritual mam myself, but I thought that the ME games were supposed to be free from this Deus Ex thinking e.g. introducing a sort of religius thinking in which an old intelligence created everything or at least the reapers. It simply does not compute in my mind that this intelligence have designed anything, since gods that create worlds to me belong in the DA universe and the D&D universe as well. I thought the whole idea with the ME franchise was to show that people in the future have turned away from organized religion? as pr. Karpyshyn's first book in the ME universe.

edit: layout.

Modifié par aries1001, 08 avril 2012 - 09:12 .

[kbct]

grimkillah wrote...

kbct wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

I heard somewhere that they are contacting the VAs... I'm skeptic about it, but does anyone have any solid info about it?

They haven't contacted the VAs yet, but I think I read they plan to. Not sure when though. However, they will need to contact them if they want to plug some of the plotholes.

They wouldn't plug the plotholes, the dlc comes out in summer, the retake movement would be dead by then, no one would care and they can keep their artistic integrity, I don't think I would even bother to download the DLC if it is not completely reworked into 16 vastly different endings, otherwise, no replay value, no choice in ending, still the same crap, just highly polished crap.

It was a good PR strategy though. It split the fans in half and pushed the reveal back to a time when we won't care anymore. We're fighting against one the largest gaming companies in the world. EA can "control" the media with their PR spin team, but let's see if they can control word of mouth.

Personally, I agree with you. They are putting lipstick on the pig.

I wish they would admit they made a mistake and fix the ending. We all know Walters and Hudson - TWO PEOPLE - are the ones that wrote it without it being vetted by the rest of the writing team. Unfortunately, I think it would cost a lot of money to completely rewrite the ending. That's not gonna happen unless they feel the benefits clearly outweigh the costs. I just don't think they see it that way.

Modifié par kbct, 08 avril 2012 - 09:15 .

[Get Magna Carter]

grimkillah wrote...

Get Magna Carter wrote...

 I suspect patrick Weekes was being evasive/misleading and the truth is...
IT is genuine

I think IT is dead, the theory was perfect, just too good for the likes of BioWare. IT deserve a better game/developer.

the suggestion that Patrick Weekes had debunked IT was responded with a statement of anger and how the "interview" was filled with half truths.
Now, it would be wrong to draw definite conclusions from this tweeted response however..
if IT was true then some of Weekes' paraphrased statements would be half truths....
and while Weekes is not too bothered by the "interview" there was anger on the suggeston it debunks IT...
(but these might not be the half-truths referred to and there could be other reasons for the anger..)
..so IT may or may not be true....
update: summary of subsequent tweets: IT may or may not be true -no official answer possibly ever

Modifié par Get Magna Carter, 08 avril 2012 - 09:43 .

[P47 ace]

kbct wrote...

The relays didn't explode, civilizations survive, FTL travel is the future, and all key Citadel characters survive. So, basically a galaxy reset for future games.

they really shold have explained that in game in the first place, and some of the fire may not have been started
mabe the extended cut will clear everything up for us

still sceptical though.

[djspectre]

My problem with the quotes the OP made, is that we clearly see the mass relay's breaking apart after they transmit that 'overload' signal or whatever. So this panel member obviously doesn't remember clearly what actually was shown to the player.

And while yes, they say that FTL drives can't get people to places as fast as the Mass Relays, it was also stated that cross galactic travel would be impossible without them, even with improvements in FTL travel. Not to mention that FTL requires Helium 3 and most of the refineries and fueling stations galaxy-wide were destroyed (as evident by the lack of one in nearly every system, whereas in ME2 there was a refueling platform near every Mass Relay.)

However, that Matriarch bartender in ME2 did state that the Asari had advanced technologically far enough to make their own mass relays, so it's possible the Asari could build one to reunite the Galaxy.

My bet is that the next game is either a prequel (god do I hate those!) or based on some stranded ship trying to get back to earth post-reaper invasion.

[aries1001]

Yes, it seems like the Mass Relays, all of them, have been blown up and thus breaking apart after a certain wave hit them. But maybe, just maybe people can get by without the Mass Relays when travelling trough space. Maybe not as fast as using the Mass Relays would be, but slower.