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[Yalision]

I don't identify with the Humans of the Dragon Age universe. Getting to choose my origin was one of the best parts of the original Dragon Age. As a Dalish I felt distinguished from the rest of the world of Dragon Age, caught about in its petty politics and racism. It was an awesome feeling to step above the rabble and make a difference as a race so downtrodden and frought with suspicion. I hope in Dragon Age III we can once again get to take advantage of such an opportunity, because aside from the reused areas, this was my biggest disappointment.

Anyway, if there is going to be 100% transparency as Mike Laidlaw suggested, it would be nice to know as soon as possible whether or not this is a realistic expectation. At least that way I can temper my anticipation for whatever is headed our way.

[Maria Caliban]

Yalision wrote...

I don't identify with the Humans of the Dragon Age universe.

While I'm all for more races, I don't think this is a problem the majority of gamers have.

[Yalision]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Yalision wrote...

I don't identify with the Humans of the Dragon Age universe.

While I'm all for more races, I don't think this is a problem the majority of gamers have.

I absolutely hated Hawke in every form of his being. He was such a tool to be used, it felt like he was being herded along his path to become the Champion. It felt so odd being forced into a role when I had expected more customization, rather than what felt like Origin's missing Human commoner origin. I want to step back into the shoes of a more interesting race. Maybe the Dwarves? That would be pretty cool too.

[Ponendus]

I too would like this to happen. I have a hunch it won't though. I like playing elf races in fantasy games, but alas I think I doomed to be... me.

Yalision wrote...

Anyway, if there is going to be 100% transparency as Mike Laidlaw suggested,

He never said there would be 100% transparency. That would be stupid. It is their prerogative to reveal and withold whatever they like. Please can we not ramp up a campaign where everyone is made to believe they suggested they would reveal absolutely everything, it just means nothing but whining on the forums for the foreseeable future...

Modifié par Ponendus, 08 avril 2012 - 11:27 .

[withneelandi]

God, yes. Please let me be an elf again.

[MortalEngines]

Very unlike to happen seeing as Laidlaw confirmed that we're getting a voiced character again this time around. This means that unless they plan of having 6 different voices (at minimum and assuming we get 3 races to choose from) just for the main character, you're gonna be one race (very likely human). I don't care too much though, for me, what race I play is far down the list of priorities I have in terms of enjoying the game.

[Withidread]

This is definitely one of the larger things I felt was missing from DA2. The origins aspect of DA:O seemed, to me anyway, borderline revolutionary. Then it was gone in DA2.

You could say "But Hawke's Origin was well fleshed out." Sure, but I didn't select it myself, Hawke was the only player character. Fleshing out Hawke's origin isn't really all that an impressive of a feat. Especially on Bioware's part, given that storytelling is generallly one of their strengths.

I think about the only thing more akward than being shoehorned into a human character, would be being shoehorned into a dwarf character. But then, the dwarf character would be redeemed at least in part by the knowledge that somewhere, sometime, David Gaider would have to take part in writing their romances.

[withneelandi]

The different races just added so much replay value.

I have played through DA:O more times than I can count, and DA2 far less. Personally, given the choice I would take race choice and some variety in origin story over a voiced main character.

Actually, on that, is there any reason the "canon" human character origin couldn't be voiced while other non canon races could be text based? A good middle ground which limited the development impact of the mechanic?

[Withidread]

withneelandi wrote...

The different races just added so much replay value.

I have played through DA:O more times than I can count, and DA2 far less. Personally, given the choice I would take race choice and some variety in origin story over a voiced main character.

Actually, on that, is there any reason the "canon" human character origin couldn't be voiced while other non canon races could be text based? A good middle ground which limited the development impact of the mechanic?

I'd be willing to go along with it, but I don't see Bioware doing such a thing. The cries of "Half-done" would be immediate and unforgiving. They would be much more likely to cut one feature or the other.

[Arthur Cousland]

After seeing the dwarf redesign in DA2, I fell in love with them all over again. Too bad they weren't playable.

If it was the only way to have playable dwarves and elves again, I could accept the same voice actor doing a human, dwarf and elf protagonist. If they could find a good Scottish voice actor to do dwarves, then that would be even better!

[Realmzmaster]

I am all for more races for the main protagonist. All of the races would have to be voiced. If you voice one race all must be voiced or gamers will be not be happy. The uproar from that decision would make the one for the ending of ME3 look tame.

The other option is to have a silent protagonist which will still cause an uproar among some gamers.

[withneelandi]

Withidread wrote...

withneelandi wrote...

The different races just added so much replay value.

I have played through DA:O more times than I can count, and DA2 far less. Personally, given the choice I would take race choice and some variety in origin story over a voiced main character.

Actually, on that, is there any reason the "canon" human character origin couldn't be voiced while other non canon races could be text based? A good middle ground which limited the development impact of the mechanic?

I'd be willing to go along with it, but I don't see Bioware doing such a thing. The cries of "Half-done" would be immediate and unforgiving. They would be much more likely to cut one feature or the other.

True, I'd be massively happy with it even as a new  game plus feature. Fans would surely be far more forgiving it was clearly "bonus" content rather than part of the main game.

Something along the lines of "well done, you completed the game", now lets imagine, "what if..." the main character was a dalish elf. Keep the dialogue text based, an extra for the DA:O fans keep the more cinematic voiced character for the main part of the game.

If only...

[warriorrc]

Yalision wrote...

I don't identify with the Humans of the Dragon Age universe. Getting to choose my origin was one of the best parts of the original Dragon Age. As a Dalish I felt distinguished from the rest of the world of Dragon Age, caught about in its petty politics and racism. It was an awesome feeling to step above the rabble and make a difference as a race so downtrodden and frought with suspicion. I hope in Dragon Age III we can once again get to take advantage of such an opportunity, because aside from the reused areas, this was my biggest disappointment.

Anyway, if there is going to be 100% transparency as Mike Laidlaw suggested, it would be nice to know as soon as possible whether or not this is a realistic expectation. At least that way I can temper my anticipation for whatever is headed our way.

Yay another dalish:lol:

[VanishedFaces]

My first playthrough was as a human noble, as I'm not keen on elves and never thought I'd want to play a dwarf. Part of the fun of Origins, though, was getting to experiment with different races and different origins. My favourite playthrough wound up being my dwarf commoner! That was a blast to play.

[Eyeofanger]

I think that is why most fans liked the warden more than hawke we could choose his origin and race while I like hawke I would choose my warden over hawke anytime as playable character if I could choose

[Who is that Masked Man]

It's probably been brought up before, but if there were multiple races to choose from, each race wouldn't HAVE to have its own voice actor.

Case in point, TOR. If you're a Sith Inquisitor, you can be sith, twi'lek, human, Zabrak... same voice with all of them.

Granted TOR is a MMORPG and, as such, is a completely different beast than a single-player RPG like the DA series. But I think it's still doable. Having a different voice for each race might be preferable, but it isn't exactly a deal breaker.

A bigger issue in selecting different races in DA2 would be how much in the way of resources they have for race-specific dialogue lines along with everything else, not to mention how specific a protagonist the storyline requires. Voice aside, DA2's story really couldn't have been told with a family of dwarves or a troop of Qunari as the main characters, for obvious reasons.

Modifié par Who is that Masked Man, 08 avril 2012 - 05:40 .

[Clertar]

I'm wondering: was the fun of the two extra races in DA:O caused by the races themselves, or rather being able to play the different origins? (i.e. if Hawke could have been an elf or a dwarf, but had started off at the same place as human Hawke, would that have been better than having "faction origins" in DA3 with only human as a racial choice?)

[WardenWade]

Yes! Humans, elves, dwarves, kossith, I want all of them as options/origins. As Faerunner noted, they don't all have to have different voices, per se. One person could easily do the voice work for all races, given that many folks from each race have similar "accents." One VA with different vocal interpretations worked for diplomatic/snarky/aggressive Hawke...IMO it can work here too.

Cost-wise, Hawke's VAs had to record the same conversation at least three times as it was. It wouldn't even break the story IMO, as city elves, surface dwarves and the average human or even Tal Vasoth, for example, could have gone through similar enough experiences to make a cogent story while still retaining their individual cultural flavor/Origins-style backgrounds.

I'd also really love to have a Circle mage background back, too.  I'd like to see what it means for mages to be attached to the Chantry in the midst of the current conflict.

Modifié par WardenWade, 08 avril 2012 - 08:06 .

[WardenWade]

Eyeofanger wrote...

I think that is why most fans liked the warden more than hawke we could choose his origin and race while I like hawke I would choose my warden over hawke anytime as playable character if I could choose

Agreed wholeheartedly.  IMO you can't tell Thedas' story without all the races having a place in the "driver's seat," and within the same game.  That was part of DA:Origins' beauty...the character customization, not just of armor or outfits but of character.

Modifié par WardenWade, 08 avril 2012 - 08:09 .

[Annihilator27]

Im going to put my hopes up extremely high for the Qunari lmao, Realistically I would like to be an Elf again.

[Mmw04014]

Faerunner wrote...

For the love of the Maker, just because you have different races doesn't mean they HAVE to have different voices. We've heard elves and dwarves with every vocal range from soft to deep (for both genders), so there's no good reason to cut race options for the sake of using only one VA.

As you can tell, I really want the race options back too. I identified with elves far more than any human, and if I have to play one more human noble that complains about how tragic life is as they use their family name to gain a noble position or royal title, I'm going to pull my hair out.

Exactly. I've never seen voice as a hinderance to having multiple races. Fenris' voice was very deep and there are dwarves who have had lighter voices than what is expected. If they found a nice middle ground, I think one voice would work well.

I like playing as a human, but I don't like strictly playing as a human. The big selling point for me when I decided to buy Origins was because there were these different races and stories you could choose from. For me, it's as much a part of the Dragon Age experience as party based combat, despite it being absent in DA2.

[Mermaid Claire]

For what it's worth, I'd love to see more races as well. Dalish was my first playthrough too.