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 I read the comment about the game going somewhere a little more "French"; so will we be taking a trip down Awakening lane and be given a chance to play an Orlesian again (again if you didn't import)?

Would be awesome :), I hope some French actors would like to work on the English version of the game :D

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as for me i'd love a ferelden/orlesian hero with an old mentor kind of character (these die off too early to be actually appreciated), maybe an old chevalier, a father with a loving family. seeing him interact with his family and mixing the main character into these scenes would be awesome. let's see....an example of a character similar to this to further explain my point.... ahAH i know just the man,tenzin.

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 Well if we're playing in Orlais, as is heavily hinted, there are going to be a ton of French actors regardless of whether our character themselves are orlesian. However, I don't think the Hero will be Orlesian for the simple fact it's hard to find a french accent that everyone would enjoy hearing for hours on end as their character.

It's likely we'll have a DA2 scenerio where our hero is from somewhere else and arrives in Orlais for whatever reason. In fact our character might possibly be a Seeker, which means they could be from anywhere and are in Orlais to fulfill their duties (see Cassandra: A seeker but from Nevarra).

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MortalEngines wrote...

 Well if we're playing in Orlais, as is heavily hinted, there are going to be a ton of French actors regardless of whether our character themselves are orlesian. However, I don't think the Hero will be Orlesian for the simple fact it's hard to find a french accent that everyone would enjoy hearing for hours on end as their character.

It's likely we'll have a DA2 scenerio where our hero is from somewhere else and arrives in Orlais for whatever reason. In fact our character might possibly be a Seeker, which means they could be from anywhere and are in Orlais to fulfill their duties (see Cassandra: A seeker but from Nevarra).



That's a pretty good and detailed idea of how our story might play out :)

It's a shame of not being able to play an Orlesian hero though :<. Ah, maybe Bioware can get Chris Barrie to be one of our heroes :D. I'd like to hear more comedian/actors in Dragon Age ^_^.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

as for me i'd love a ferelden/orlesian hero with an old mentor kind of character (these die off too early to be actually appreciated), maybe an old chevalier, a father with a loving family. seeing him interact with his family and mixing the main character into these scenes would be awesome. let's see....an example of a character similar to this to further explain my point.... ahAH i know just the man,tenzin.


I love that idea too :). An old chevalier would be such a cool character :D.

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If everybody in Orlais will have a french accent, I'll lose my sanity. Posted Image

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vardor99 wrote...

If everybody in Orlais will have a french accent, I'll lose my sanity. Posted Image



There are lots of different types of accents too though :<, regional dialects should run rampant in the game.

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vardor99 wrote...

If everybody in Orlais will have a french accent, I'll lose my sanity. Posted Image



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No Orlesian hero please.

An orlesian companion yes, but not with the overdone accent like in MotA for example Posted Image.

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sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

No Orlesian hero please.

An orlesian companion yes, but not with the overdone accent like in MotA for example Posted Image.


Agreed. I hope they keep the pompous french accents for the nobility because they are funny, but for everyday people? I'd like it more toned down. It would get really tiresome if everyone had ZIS OUTRAAAGEOUS ACCENT.

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If he would have an orleasina accent then I vote for Silent protagonist. It could however be a Ferelden who lives in Orlais.

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Annoying or not, I can never hear enough of Baron Arlange.

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I really hope not. I'm all for a voiced protagonist, but I don't think I could handle playing an entire game where my character has an Orlesian accent. I think I would be very annoyed. I might end up skipping all my own characters dialogue (boy, would that suck).

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I like the accents that they've used so far in the Dragon Age universe; I've never really understood why people dislike the French accents.

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So long as the VA is actually French so that it sounds legit. Faux French would be pretty dire for a main protaganist.

If we're going for French VA's then I vote Béatrice Dalle or Monica Bellucci for the female PC!

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arcelonious wrote...

I like the accents that they've used so far in the Dragon Age universe; I've never really understood why people dislike the French accents.

I try not to dislike them, I really do. And it isn't just "Orlesian" accents, or "Antivan" or whatever other ones we'll be hearing in the game. It's *any* non-English language used for any long stretch of spoken dialogue.

The problem is that it creates a disconnect. It underlines the fact that my character, who I'm supposed to believe to be me, is not. Despite being American, I don't have that problem with the native British accents in the game. Culturally, it's close enough. French, Spanish, or German accents are accoustically dissimilar and serve as a reminder that my character and I are very separate. We are, of course, and I often enjoy role-playing characters very different from myself, but I don't like the audio reminders in the game.

I wonder whether non-English speakers have the same issue. Does it feel strange? I don't imagine BioWare paid for voicing in however many languages DA offered. Or maybe they did? I remember somebody posting audio clips of David Warner as Irenicus versus the Polish voice actor they used, but BG2 was nowhere near as lavishly voiced as the Dragon Age series.

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Needs to be closer to Jean Reno / Audrey Tautou than TEEEGAHN.

hopefully it'll be downplayed somewhat, lasses with soft french accents are beautiful to the ears, but it can and does grate after awhile. Also, unless the main character is voiced by the badass that is Jean Reno (for males 'course), I hope that we'll be another Fereldan solving the worlds problems. Though perhaps abit overplayed if the case could be interesting cause of the rilvalry.

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MortalEngines wrote...

 Well if we're playing in Orlais, as is heavily hinted, there are going to be a ton of French actors regardless of whether our character themselves are orlesian. However, I don't think the Hero will be Orlesian for the simple fact it's hard to find a french accent that everyone would enjoy hearing for hours on end as their character.

It's likely we'll have a DA2 scenerio where our hero is from somewhere else and arrives in Orlais for whatever reason. In fact our character might possibly be a Seeker, which means they could be from anywhere and are in Orlais to fulfill their duties (see Cassandra: A seeker but from Nevarra).



I don't think that the PC will be a Seeker. How a mage PC could be a Seeker? Unless they'll make differen "origins" for the warrior/rogue PC and the mage PC, I don't think it's possible to play as a Seeker.

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hhh89 wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

 Well if we're playing in Orlais, as is heavily hinted, there are going to be a ton of French actors regardless of whether our character themselves are orlesian. However, I don't think the Hero will be Orlesian for the simple fact it's hard to find a french accent that everyone would enjoy hearing for hours on end as their character.

It's likely we'll have a DA2 scenerio where our hero is from somewhere else and arrives in Orlais for whatever reason. In fact our character might possibly be a Seeker, which means they could be from anywhere and are in Orlais to fulfill their duties (see Cassandra: A seeker but from Nevarra).



I don't think that the PC will be a Seeker. How a mage PC could be a Seeker? Unless they'll make differen "origins" for the warrior/rogue PC and the mage PC, I don't think it's possible to play as a Seeker.

There were lots of Andraste-loving mages in DAO and DA2, including Wynne and Bethany.

I would be more skeptical of BioWare making the grievious mistake of forcing the player to RP a pro-Andrastean protagonist. Mandating religion would not go over well.

A Seeker as a companion, sure! Balance it out with a Tevinter mage and you've got some great drama potential. But not as the protagonist.

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Yes, I agree, I can see a companion as a seeker, but not really as the protagonist. Unlike a Grey Warden, a seeker has strong ties to the Adrastrian faith, whereas protagonists are usually in more neutral roles (e.g., Grey Wardens are urged to stay out of politics, although ironically the Warden does everything but that).

Modifié par arcelonious, 08 avril 2012 - 02:54 .


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hhh89 wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

 Well if we're playing in Orlais, as is heavily hinted, there are going to be a ton of French actors regardless of whether our character themselves are orlesian. However, I don't think the Hero will be Orlesian for the simple fact it's hard to find a french accent that everyone would enjoy hearing for hours on end as their character.

It's likely we'll have a DA2 scenerio where our hero is from somewhere else and arrives in Orlais for whatever reason. In fact our character might possibly be a Seeker, which means they could be from anywhere and are in Orlais to fulfill their duties (see Cassandra: A seeker but from Nevarra).



I don't think that the PC will be a Seeker. How a mage PC could be a Seeker? Unless they'll make differen "origins" for the warrior/rogue PC and the mage PC, I don't think it's possible to play as a Seeker.


It's been heavily suggested the Seekers work on a system seperate from Templars and the Chantry. As seen with the Dawn of the Seeker movie that has Cassandra have a circle mage( Regalyan d’Marcall) help her on her mission. Mages from the circle are often called upon to aid Seekers and the Chantry. I don't see why it is a stretch to have the PC as one such mage that either is a Seeker or works closely with them.

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There were lots of Andraste-loving mages in DAO and DA2, including Wynne and Bethany.

I would be more skeptical of BioWare making the grievious mistake of forcing the player to RP a pro-Andrastean protagonist. Mandating religion would not go over well.

A Seeker as a companion, sure! Balance it out with a Tevinter mage and you've got some great drama potential. But not as the protagonist.

 

This is a good point. Personally, I don't see it as very hard to give the option to RP a character who is reluctant to help the chantry and is not pro-andrastean but is compelled to become a Seeker (or help them) in order to restore world order, in a similar vein to the Grey Warden (who ultimately had to get involved in the Fereldan political conflict for the greater good). As long as the dialogue options are given, I don't think it's too hard to believe.

Just have to similar to the conversation between Varric and Hawke in which Varric asks Hawke what his or her plan is for the future of all this. In which instance, you set out your Hawke's reasons for what they do, Politics, Fun, Revenge, Family etc. 

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MortalEngines wrote...

It's been heavily suggested the Seekers work on a system seperate from Templars and the Chantry. As seen with the Dawn of the Seeker movie that has Cassandra have a circle mage( Regalyan d’Marcall) help her on her mission. Mages from the circle are often called upon to aid Seekers and the Chantry. I don't see why it is a stretch to have the PC as one such mage that either is a Seeker or works closely with them.


While I personally would be surprised to see a Seeker protagonist, I agree that it would not be impossible.  For example, you could roleplay a seeker that isn't a strict Andrastrian, struggling with their faith, aetheistic, and so on; challenging, but not impossible.  With that said, I would still prefer the protagonist to have a more politically neutral affiliation, or in the most, affliated to their country.

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arcelonious wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

It's been heavily suggested the Seekers work on a system seperate from Templars and the Chantry. As seen with the Dawn of the Seeker movie that has Cassandra have a circle mage( Regalyan d’Marcall) help her on her mission. Mages from the circle are often called upon to aid Seekers and the Chantry. I don't see why it is a stretch to have the PC as one such mage that either is a Seeker or works closely with them.


While I personally would be surprised to see a Seeker protagonist, I agree that it would not be impossible.  For example, you could roleplay a seeker that isn't a strict Andrastrian, struggling with their faith, aetheistic, and so on; challenging, but not impossible.  With that said, I would still prefer the protagonist to have a more politically neutral affiliation, or in the most, affliated mostly by their country.


I agree, in fact, in my original comment, I was only making a brief suggestion as to a possible reason for the character being in Orlais. I in no way think that it's the most likely though, Bioware will likely come up with either a select number of origins to choose from (doubt it though, I'm sure that the whole origins device is a gimmick reserved for the DA:O game) or contrive a scenerio like in Dragon Age 2. I don't mind either to be fair as long as it makes sense and the contrived scenerio isn't TOO contrived (if that makes any sense :blink:).

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MortalEngines wrote...

I agree, in fact, in my original comment, I was only making a brief suggestion as to a possible reason for the character being in Orlais. I in no way think that it's the most likely though, Bioware will likely come up with either a select number of origins to choose from (doubt it though, I'm sure that the whole origins device is a gimmick reserved for the DA:O game) or contrive a scenerio like in Dragon Age 2. I don't mind either to be fair as long as it makes sense and the contrived scenerio isn't TOO contrived (if that makes any sense :blink:).


I mentioned this in another thread, but I'm personally hoping that the three main archetypes (i.e., mage, rogue, and warrior) each have an origin of their own, as well as playthroughs that differ dramatically.

For example, let's say that DA3 is indeed in Orlais.  The mage archetype playthrough could pit the player in events closer to the activities of the magi rebels in Orlais.  In contrast, a warrior playthrough might have you initially more aligned with seekers or templars.  Finally, the rogue archetype may occupy a more neutral vantage point, perhaps as an Orlesian citizen.

Understandably, doing something like this could potentially be developmentally more time consuming than the simple origins approach in DA:O so I doubt the possibility, but one can always hope.

Edit: Omitted references to Asunder, as I forgot that I was in a no spoiler forum.

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MortalEngines wrote...





It's been heavily suggested the Seekers work on a system seperate from Templars and the Chantry. As seen with the Dawn of the Seeker movie that has Cassandra have a circle mage( Regalyan d’Marcall) help her on her mission. Mages from the circle are often called upon to aid Seekers and the Chantry. I don't see why it is a stretch to have the PC as one such mage that either is a Seeker or works closely with them.


I don't think that mages can't work with the Seekers.
I don't think it's a stretch to have a PC  mage that works closely with them.  It's a stretch in my opinion to see a Seeker mage.
And as others said, a Seeker PC will most likely be a fervent Andastrian, and this may be a problem for a lot of people who don't like the Chantry, or don't support it. It's better in my opinion to have a "neutral" PC.

Modifié par hhh89, 08 avril 2012 - 03:48 .