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Orlesians can't be heroes. They're the main villains of the Dragon Age series. They were behind the Blight in Ferelden. Pretty sure they were also behind everything in DA2, as some kind of convoluted plot to take over Ferelden.

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I would prefer new Origin imo that would affect the game story according to your background.
Orlesian Hero can be an option between many :)

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Rojahar wrote...

Orlesians can't be heroes. They're the main villains of the Dragon Age series. They were behind the Blight in Ferelden. Pretty sure they were also behind everything in DA2, as some kind of convoluted plot to take over Ferelden.


Have you played the Dragon Age story at all? 

If you have then you'll notice there are good and bad people EVERYWHERE, just like real life >.>.

Orlais doesn't mean evil. If you think it does, then every country in the Dragon Age world is evil. People are people are people. We're the same no matter where you come from.

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I wouldn't mind playing as an orlesian. As a matter of fact, the first thing that came to mind when Orlais was first hinted was that it'd be awesome to play as for example an orlesian noblewoman playing the Game of Intrigue or perhaps as an elven servant who stumbles upon secrets during a masquerade ball or a private gathering.

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Not going to happen. We've been told they're not abandoning fully voiced PCs and there's no way that BioWare would make a voiced player character Orlesian when the reaction to previous French accents have received an overwhelmingly negative response in the past. Making the character Orlesian, essentially giving us 30 hours of Isolde would just be fuel for the YouTubers who are already having a lot of fun at BioWare's expense every day.

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Indoctrination wrote...

Not going to happen. We've been told they're not abandoning fully voiced PCs and there's no way that BioWare would make a voiced player character Orlesian when the reaction to previous French accents have received an overwhelmingly negative response in the past. Making the character Orlesian, essentially giving us 30 hours of Isolde would just be fuel for the YouTubers who are already having a lot of fun at BioWare's expense every day.


Well if they actually make a decent research there is plenty of french accents.
They can choose one that people think its not something forced.
With this avoiding youtube poop fun videos.
Its all a matter of how you work on your material, if it high quality how people can make fun of it?
Those videos exist because Bioware dropped the ball really bad.

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There is no greater arguement for a silent PC (and silent NPCS) than setting the game in Orlais.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 10 avril 2012 - 10:56 .


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BobSmith101 wrote...

There is no greater arguement for a silent PC (and silent NPCS) than setting the game in Orlais.


Sorry; it's confirmed that the PC will have a voice in DA3.

But I'm pretty sure that the orlesian accent will be absent Image IPB.

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Do you people seriously think every person with any kind of French accent talks like Isolde

do

you

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so long as there is a blight id be delighted

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Maria Caliban wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

When you have a character who is always a mage, you either take away the importance of these things by having them not mentioned, or force the player to be a mage and carry this baggage. Which stops them from being someone who hates mages or fears them for example. Because you are a mage and it would be hypocritical to fear/hate them.


Disagree. A mage who fears other mages is a rational person. Mages are dangerous, and no one knows that more than another mage. As for hating mages, that makes sense as well. If you just want to live a normal life and not hurt anyone, the mages that go around doing blood magic, making deals with demons, and controlling others are the ones that make it impossible.


I agree, a mage without fear from other mages is doom to die or be enslaved by them, thats why tevinter mages deal with demons they know why is so important to be in a powerful house and have many servants some of them mages themselves.

About having a normal life..really? Morals vary dramatically across time and place. One group’s good can be another group’s evil.

Suppose you have a moral disagreement with someone, for example, a disagreement about whether it is okay to live in a society where the amount of money you are born with is the primary determinant of how wealthy you will end up. In pursuing this debate, you assume that you are correct about the issue and that your conversation partner mistaken. You conversation partner assumes that you are making the blunder. In other words, you both assume that only one of you can be correct. Relativists reject this assumption. They believe that conflicting moral beliefs can both be true. The stanch socialist and righteous royalist are equally right; they just occupy different moral
worldviews.
Relativism has been widely criticized. It is attacked as being sophomoric, pernicious, and even incoherent. Moral philosophers, theologians, and social scientists try to identify objective values so as to forestall the relativist menace. I think these efforts have failed. Moral relativism is a plausible doctrine, and it has important
implications for how we conduct our lives, organize our societies, and deal with others.

http://www.philosoph...tioned_Response

Modifié par Huntress, 10 avril 2012 - 03:40 .


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Rojahar wrote...

Orlesians can't be heroes. They're the main villains of the Dragon Age series. They were behind the Blight in Ferelden. Pretty sure they were also behind everything in DA2, as some kind of convoluted plot to take over Ferelden.


I strongly Disagree, DAO villains are the darkspawns wich only see the rest of thedas as:
Females: Future broodmothers
Males: Food.

The most evil of all: The Architect, able to think independently of the darkspawn group-mind. Its goal is to bring peace between the darkspawn and the other races of Thedas at any cost.

The Architect hoped to make all of Thedas take in the taint, despite the fact that this would involve an extraordinary number of deaths of those who could not take the taint.
Ultimately, this plan would change the survivors into darkspawn-like hybrids.

Of course it would seem a great idea to a darkspawn but to me thats evil and should be destroyed before the chantry/templars/qunaries..

Modifié par Huntress, 10 avril 2012 - 04:02 .


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Nobody likes the French. I should know -- I've been taking crap about my maiden name since the second Bush administration. (FREEDOM FRIES?!)

Recently my husband and I both read "Asunder" and loved it. And then one morning my husband said, "wow, I really loved Rhys and Genevieve until I remembered that they're Orlesian and they have those froofy Frenchy accents."

< sad French American is sad.

If our hero's going to be Orlesian, Bioware's going to have to overhaul the BA-ness to overcome French stereotypes.

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 10 avril 2012 - 05:02 .


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Rojahar wrote...

Orlesians can't be heroes. They're the main villains of the Dragon Age series. They were behind the Blight in Ferelden. Pretty sure they were also behind everything in DA2, as some kind of convoluted plot to take over Ferelden.


Can you please clarify?

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Rojahar wrote...

Orlesians can't be heroes. They're the main villains of the Dragon Age series. They were behind the Blight in Ferelden. Pretty sure they were also behind everything in DA2, as some kind of convoluted plot to take over Ferelden.


Was the Architect the real Emperor of Orlais?
I'm not a big fan of the Orlesian Empire, but after Ostagar they could've easily conquered Ferelden, if they would. I'm not saying that they don't want to take Ferelden back (considering the letters between Celene and Cailan in RtO, I think they're still interested), but they had nothing to do with the Blight.

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The entire cast of Asunder (minus Wynne, Shale and Lambert) are Orlesians. They're not all evil fops.

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Roxy Lalonde wrote...

Do you people seriously think every person with any kind of French accent talks like Isolde

do

you


No offense Roxy Lalonde.
We're talking about the extreme french accent here Image IPB. If I speak english my accent is even worse Image IPB.

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brushyourteeth wrote...

Nobody likes the French. I should know -- I've been taking crap about my maiden name since the second Bush administration. (FREEDOM FRIES?!)

Recently my husband and I both read "Asunder" and loved it. And then one morning my husband said, "wow, I really loved Rhys and Genevieve until I remembered that they're Orlesian and they have those froofy Frenchy accents."

< sad French American is sad.

If our hero's going to be Orlesian, Bioware's going to have to overhaul the BA-ness to overcome French stereotypes.


My surname is fench too. Most people do not know how to pronounce it properly Image IPB.

For NPC's the overdone accent is great  but for your PC it gets annoying. I can see the humor in it on several ocasions especially in MotA.

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... my maiden name was DuPuis.

A lot more Americans can pronounce it now, thanks to Hawke and Gascard. Image IPB

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 10 avril 2012 - 09:38 .


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This is what I want in an Orlesian DA3 companion.
youtu.be/et-6rYkiwCY

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 10 avril 2012 - 10:01 .


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brushyourteeth wrote...

... my maiden name was DuPuis.

A lot more Americans can pronounce it now, thanks to Hawke and Gascard. Image IPB



Now there's proof that games are good for more than one thing Image IPB.
Great link by the way.