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[Dap Brannigan]

Aside from the endings, there are plenty of things to nitpick about the game, but one issue in particular really seems to show what direction Bioware is going to continue to take as a developer.  It's absolutely infuriating to me (even as I take a step back and remind myself how dumb it is to be so pissed off about a video game).

Somewhere along the line, for some reason I cannot comprehend, Bioware made the decision to spend their face-modeling money on Diana Allers, rather than giving Tali (a core character in the series) the face reveal she deserved.

I had no idea who Jessica Chobot was before Mass Effect 3.  If the intent of her cameo was to make me a fan of hers, it actually had the opposite effect.  I'm now forever going to associate her name with the failings of ME3.

Is she really that popular, that Bioware thought putting her in the game would boost sales?  Was putting Chobot in the game such a draw, that it was worth it to relegate Tali to a stock photoshop, and kill off Emily Wong on Twitter? 

As a design decision, it feels so dysfunctional and out of touch with what fans expect.  The thing is, I don't see how having Chobot/Allers in the game was beneficial to EA/Bioware in any way.  Whoever forces these stupid marketing gimmicks on Bioware at the cost of game integrity needs to be fired, because they don't even work.

[animallover11]

*approval nod* My thoughts exactly, OP.

[Njald]

Because they thought it could be interesting to tie in real world into the gaming world. Had everything else gone smooth they might even have gotten away with it.

[FatalX7.0]

I googled Jessica Chobot after I got ME 3.

Judging by her pictures, I think she blew some of the members of Bioware. Or slept with someone important. Or someones.

Or probably for a high rating from IGN.


Most likely, however? Some people think she's hot. A lot of her pictures online are suggestive and revealing. Fan service.

Famous for seductively licking a psp.

I do not find her attractive, and her in game model isn't either.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 08 avril 2012 - 05:50 .

[Roflcopter35]

Njald wrote...

Had everything else gone smooth they might even have gotten away with it.

If only it weren't for you meddling kids!

[Pyromatic Tabby]

One month on I still haven't read a positive reason as to why she was included in the game, exluding the 'she's a fan, and why said to ourselves, why not have her in the game?'.

[danteliveson]

Did Yvonne blow someone??

[K_Tabris]

I didn't think about the cost Diana Allers would be to Tali, also.

In fact, this is almost more of a reason to be upset at Diana Allers waste of space than the fact that we miss out on Emily Wong, who would have been perfect on the Normandy! Instead, they insulted her by giving her a micro-blogging death.

of course, Bioware decided to give every character an undignified, undeserved death, so they apparently really don't give a sh*t about any of there characters.

[FatalX7.0]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

I googled Jessica Chobot after I got ME 3.

Judging by her pictures, I think she blew some of the members of Bioware. Or slept with someone important. Or someones.

Or probably for a high rating from IGN.


Most likely, however? Some people think she's hot. A lot of her pictures online are suggestive and revealing. Fan service.

Famous for seductively licking a psp.

I do not find her attractive, and her in game model isn't either.

http://www.ign.com/b...ca-chobot-rocks

http://www.beertripp...hobot_Main.html

She is...quite famous.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 08 avril 2012 - 05:53 .

[78stonewobble]

Njyarj njyaah...

I'f she liked ME and knew a developer and they needed a new face? Who wouldn't have said yes?

As a somewhat "in-industry" gimmick favour it's ok.

But as you say, as a marketing gimmick, it doesn't work.

[Lookout1390]

Emily Wong > Allers

Jessica Chobot is just another pretty girl and EA owned IGN a favor or 2.

Just your daily reminder that more effort was put into Allers than Tali.

[Kawamura]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

I googled Jessica Chobot after I got ME 3.

Judging by her pictures, I think she blew some of the members of Bioware. Or slept with someone important. Or someones.

Or probably for a high rating from IGN.


Most likely, however? Some people think she's hot. A lot of her pictures online are suggestive and revealing. Fan service.

Famous for seductively licking a psp.

I do not find her attractive, and her in game model isn't either.

There's something really nasty in this post, something misogynistic. It makes me very uncomfortable.

Most likely, it was a fan service thing. BW does that. It blew up because there's so little good will towards the game as a whole. 

[Solaris1989]

Maybe to get a good review from IGN...

[Arturia Pendragon]

danteliveson wrote...

Did Yvonne blow someone??

Nope, but she isn't employed by a company that reviews video games either.

[FatalX7.0]

Kawamura wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

I googled Jessica Chobot after I got ME 3.

Judging by her pictures, I think she blew some of the members of Bioware. Or slept with someone important. Or someones.

Or probably for a high rating from IGN.


Most likely, however? Some people think she's hot. A lot of her pictures online are suggestive and revealing. Fan service.

Famous for seductively licking a psp.

I do not find her attractive, and her in game model isn't either.

There's something really nasty in this post, something misogynistic. It makes me very uncomfortable.

Most likely, it was a fan service thing. BW does that. It blew up because there's so little good will towards the game as a whole. 

Misogynistic? How?

Maybe a hatred for Chobot.

Look at those pictures of her in those links I posted. I hate women like her.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 08 avril 2012 - 05:55 .

[bpzrn]

Dap Brannigan wrote...

Aside from the endings, there are plenty of things to nitpick about the game, but one issue in particular really seems to show what direction Bioware is going to continue to take as a developer.  It's absolutely infuriating to me (even as I take a step back and remind myself how dumb it is to be so pissed off about a video game).

Somewhere along the line, for some reason I cannot comprehend, Bioware made the decision to spend their face-modeling money on Diana Allers, rather than giving Tali (a core character in the series) the face reveal she deserved.

I had no idea who Jessica Chobot was before Mass Effect 3.  If the intent of her cameo was to make me a fan of hers, it actually had the opposite effect.  I'm now forever going to associate her name with the failings of ME3.

Is she really that popular, that Bioware thought putting her in the game would boost sales?  Was putting Chobot in the game such a draw, that it was worth it to relegate Tali to a stock photoshop, and kill off Emily Wong on Twitter? 

As a design decision, it feels so dysfunctional and out of touch with what fans expect.  The thing is, I don't see how having Chobot/Allers in the game was beneficial to EA/Bioware in any way.  Whoever forces these stupid marketing gimmicks on Bioware at the cost of game integrity needs to be fired, because they don't even work.

Great way to get support from teh game reviewers hire them to be in your game

Everything her company states about ME3 has no credability.

[Dap Brannigan]

What the hell does fan service even mean? I'm a fan of ME. I'm a huge fan. Putting Chobot in the game as a poorly-developed character at the expense of good characters did not service me. Did it service you?

[A0170]

1.) To attract more fans

2.) To get IGN's support

In hindsight not the best of decisions by Bioware

[aternak]

To strengthen their master/shill relationship with IGN and to exploit the sexual fantasies of the pubescent male IGN audience that knew Chobot beforehand.

[Whimper]

This is a false choice, OP. It's not like Bioware sat down and discussed it that way.

"We need to kill a character on Twitter, give another an amazingly lifelike 3D face, and do a shabby Photoshop of a stock image. Now let's pick who gets what-- who votes we kill Tali on Twitter? No one? Okay, I guess she gets the stock image. Since we already have a 3D face for Emily Wong, I guess that means she gets killed on Twitter, leaving Chobot/Allers as our choice for a new in-game model. That was easy, let's go for coffee."

Emily Wong was killed on Twitter because it made sense for her to be on Twitter, and it was a useful bit of viral storytelling, illustrating human resistance to the impossible foe.

Tali's face was revealed in a photograph because that's how Bioware's storytellers wanted to reveal her face. Like it or not, it has nothing at all to do with Emily Wong or Diana Allers/Jessica Chobot.

Speaking of whom, you can criticize Bioware all you want for including this person in the game, and I'll support you all the way. But just say, "Allers was a boring and fumbled character played by an unconvincing amateur. Her appearance seems like a misguided attempt at media payoff or fan service pandering." There's no need to conflate it with irrelevant issues.

[Hexley UK]

I have no idea but it was a really bad decision.

Not rendering Tali's a face is my 3rd biggest complaint about the game after Priority earth being lame and the ending obviously.

[FatalX7.0]

Dap Brannigan wrote...

What the hell does fan service even mean? I'm a fan of ME. I'm a huge fan. Putting Chobot in the game as a poorly-developed character at the expense of good characters did not service me. Did it service you?

What is fan service?

The romance plots are fan service.

Nudity/Partial Nudity is fan service.

Suggestive themes are fan service.


Things like that.

Go watch an anime or something.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 08 avril 2012 - 05:58 .

[Clayless]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

I googled Jessica Chobot after I got ME 3.

Judging by her pictures, I think she blew some of the members of Bioware. Or slept with someone important. Or someones.

Or probably for a high rating from IGN.


Most likely, however? Some people think she's hot. A lot of her pictures online are suggestive and revealing. Fan service.

Famous for seductively licking a psp.

I do not find her attractive, and her in game model isn't either.

This is one of the most sexist comments I've ever read.

[Dap Brannigan]

Arturia Pendragon wrote...

danteliveson wrote...

Did Yvonne blow someone??

Nope, but she isn't employed by a company that reviews video games either.

Miranda was a well-voice acted and well-developed (not talking about dat ass) character.  She was critical to the plot of both ME2 and ME3.  Yvonne being in the game is not comparable to Chobot as Allers.

[PyroMattFTW]

I would rather have had al-jilani on my ship then chobot.  At least I could punch al-jilani.  Didn't recruit Allers on either of my playthroughs.