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Why did Bioware choose Diana Allers, over Tali'Zorah vas Normandy and Emily Wong?


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Kawamura wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

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Because we've been talking about Olivia Munn being in game instead of Chobot for a few pages now.

But you're only up my ass, aren't you? :wub:


Try a different technique. 


Excuse me? A different technique? And just what the hell are you trying to say, you annoying, whiney ****?
































Like that?

A little softer? More rage? Or more trolling?

More love? More hatred?

This is getting pretty stale, but I guess I could always use an admirer on every forum I go to.

Will you follow me into a new thread, as well? Cry some more when I make an "off-color" joke? Flabbergast me some more?

Not many people get me so...flustered. :wub:

No...this needs a "shy" face like from Vindictus.


Uh huh. Keep trying. 

Remember, you're the one that made the comment first. Mocking me doesn't change it. 


Only you think I'm trying to change or deflect something.

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Dap Brannigan wrote...

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It really just baffles me that they would put so much effort into a character that has so little impact, and no effort into a main character. To quote AVGN: What were they thinking?!


I was wondering why i couldnt find Emily Wong. Later someone tells me that she got killed on Twitter.... Not the best way to receive those news.


Yeah I found it by accident, since I'm not a fan of Twitter.  They made her have a heroic kamikaze death crashing her skycar into a Reaper.  Storytelling through tweets is now top quality, I guess.

She never did get that exclusive interview with Shepard.


That could have easily been told to us over the news on the Citadel.. Instead, you have to read about it when you're not playing..

#153
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Twinzam.V wrote...

Dap Brannigan wrote...

Twinzam.V wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

It really just baffles me that they would put so much effort into a character that has so little impact, and no effort into a main character. To quote AVGN: What were they thinking?!


I was wondering why i couldnt find Emily Wong. Later someone tells me that she got killed on Twitter.... Not the best way to receive those news.


Yeah I found it by accident, since I'm not a fan of Twitter.  They made her have a heroic kamikaze death crashing her skycar into a Reaper.  Storytelling through tweets is now top quality, I guess.

She never did get that exclusive interview with Shepard.


I wanted to give her that interview and besides i think a heroic kamikaze death might be heroic but even against one of the small Reapers i knew that would be most probably pointless.

It's about as heroic as standing in the way of an avalanche trying to stop it using a tennis racket.

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I find her to be somewhat of a bad girl, not in the good way but the bad way as in sucky sucky 5 dollars.
It seems to be some sort of fan service, loads of IGN kids find her hot and like her because she is a girl and not a boy.
In reality her face looks like it went through the meat grinder and that really shows in game.
It turns out the Normandy had no make up for her to put on.

And she really plays to the roll with the lapdance and the licking of PSP's and other acts she does.

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Because we've been talking about Olivia Munn being in game instead of Chobot for a few pages now.

But you're only up my ass, aren't you? :wub:


Try a different technique. 


Excuse me? A different technique? And just what the hell are you trying to say, you annoying, whiney ****?
































Like that?

A little softer? More rage? Or more trolling?

More love? More hatred?

This is getting pretty stale, but I guess I could always use an admirer on every forum I go to.

Will you follow me into a new thread, as well? Cry some more when I make an "off-color" joke? Flabbergast me some more?

Not many people get me so...flustered. :wub:

No...this needs a "shy" face like from Vindictus.


Uh huh. Keep trying. 

Remember, you're the one that made the comment first. Mocking me doesn't change it. 


Only you think I'm trying to change or deflect something.


Well, I did tell you how I thought that conversation played out. You never corrected me, so I assume I'm correct. 

You got called out on something. It made you uncomfortable. You've tried to wriggle out of that discomfort.

Doesn't change the fact that you started off with a sexist joke. Now you look like you're just ... I dunno. Trying to save face? To avoid seeing that you said something problematic (and that the problem is me, not you)?

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Kawamura wrote...

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I googled Jessica Chobot after I got ME 3.

Judging by her pictures, I think she blew some of the members of Bioware. Or slept with someone important. Or someones.

Or probably for a high rating from IGN.


Most likely, however? Some people think she's hot. A lot of her pictures online are suggestive and revealing. Fan service.

Famous for seductively licking a psp.

I do not find her attractive, and her in game model isn't either.


There's something really nasty in this post, something misogynistic. It makes me very uncomfortable.

Most likely, it was a fan service thing. BW does that. It blew up because there's so little good will towards the game as a whole. 


Lol what?

So it's misogynistic to dislike a woman for getting somewhere purely for flaunting herself rather than through hard-work and integrity?

Wow.

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As for tali, i'm sure they didn't want to do a face reveal. Doing that would violate the desire of people like myself for it to remain a mystery. As for Emily Wong, I'm sure she's way too busy doing other things than sitting on the SSV Normandy, even if it is commanded by Shep.

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Reciever80 wrote...

As for tali, i'm sure they didn't want to do a face reveal. Doing that would violate the desire of people like myself for it to remain a mystery. As for Emily Wong, I'm sure she's way too busy doing other things than sitting on the SSV Normandy, even if it is commanded by Shep.


True, but I feel like the way they "revealed" her face was just the absolute worst way they could have done it. It pissed off the people who wanted to see her face, pissed off the people who didn't want to see her face, pissed off the people who wanted a more alien tali, pissed off the people just with the fact it was a google image and they didn't even give her a face. If I knew this is what they had in mind, I honestly would rather have not seen her face.

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Reciever80 wrote...
As for Emily Wong, I'm sure she's way too busy doing other things than sitting on the SSV Normandy, even if it is commanded by Shep.

Being dead is quite the chore.

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I haven't finished reading this topic yet, but I'd like to point out that I don't know who Chobot is. I assume she's the VA for Diana Allers, but it justs brings some circular logic that they've added Diana to the game because she's voiced by Chobot because Chobot voices Diana from ME3.....

I expect she must be some important person then?

(I'm not expecting a reply, lol, I'm just showing that I dunno who she is. I expect I'll find out by reading this topic)

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Lionel Ou wrote...

Reciever80 wrote...
As for Emily Wong, I'm sure she's way too busy doing other things than sitting on the SSV Normandy, even if it is commanded by Shep.

Being dead is quite the chore.


:lol:

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pikey1969 wrote...

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See, I don't know why people are being sexist in regard to Allers.

There is PLENTY of ammunition against her and/or her implementation in Mass Effect, without going overboard and sexist like this.


Sexist?


'she probably blew **** to get her that job'

is sexist. joke or not. especially when the joke is stale and not all that humorous to start with.


Is that really a joke.
Not trying to be sexist here but men and women are different and each have their own equipment to use.
Women can use their equipment to further themselves, its just a way of life.

#164
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Kawamura wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Because we've been talking about Olivia Munn being in game instead of Chobot for a few pages now.

But you're only up my ass, aren't you? :wub:


Try a different technique. 


Excuse me? A different technique? And just what the hell are you trying to say, you annoying, whiney ****?
































Like that?

A little softer? More rage? Or more trolling?

More love? More hatred?

This is getting pretty stale, but I guess I could always use an admirer on every forum I go to.

Will you follow me into a new thread, as well? Cry some more when I make an "off-color" joke? Flabbergast me some more?

Not many people get me so...flustered. :wub:

No...this needs a "shy" face like from Vindictus.


Uh huh. Keep trying. 

Remember, you're the one that made the comment first. Mocking me doesn't change it. 


Only you think I'm trying to change or deflect something.


Well, I did tell you how I thought that conversation played out. You never corrected me, so I assume I'm correct. 

You got called out on something. It made you uncomfortable. You've tried to wriggle out of that discomfort.

Doesn't change the fact that you started off with a sexist joke. Now you look like you're just ... I dunno. Trying to save face? To avoid seeing that you said something problematic (and that the problem is me, not you)?


Correct? What? Who cares about being correct? Well..you do, obviously. For some reason.

I know what I said, I said it for a reason. It blew my mind that you cried so hard, and still are. And why are you still dragging it on? For like 7 pages. Your posts to me are just pointless provoking, trolling. You want me to say that you're correct about something? About what?


Okay, you're right and correct. You are right about everything, the whole universe. My little opinionated joke thing was wrong and you're right and so much better than I am.

I don't care. I don't care that you didn't like it. What I do care about? I never leave a conversation or argument until both sides agree that it is finished or you just up and leave.

This pointless back and forth was fun for a while, but now? Geez, you're annoying.

No, I can't say stupid, you have some semblance of intelligence. I can't come up with a word to describe it.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 08 avril 2012 - 07:22 .


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Sire Styx wrote...

I haven't finished reading this topic yet, but I'd like to point out that I don't know who Chobot is. I assume she's the VA for Diana Allers, but it justs brings some circular logic that they've added Diana to the game because she's voiced by Chobot because Chobot voices Diana from ME3.....

I expect she must be some important person then?

(I'm not expecting a reply, lol, I'm just showing that I dunno who she is. I expect I'll find out by reading this topic)


I'll reply to you, because three weeks ago I had no idea about Chobot either (First I thought someone on the BSN-board simply misspelled "Robot").

I took her with me because I needed the War assets (I thought it might affect the end in an importan way, silly me!), but I wondered the whole time where Emily Wong is...And now, reading this thread I learn she was killed on Twitter..damn, and I thought Shepard had an unworthy death...

And this Chobot-Person? I do not know her personally, but some of her statements about the Retake-Movement insulted me...
 
But then, when I look at her ingame-model it makes me chuckle again, because it really is the ugliest female in the game, even Eve the Krogan had more Sex-Appeal! Image IPB

Modifié par Vox Draco, 08 avril 2012 - 07:22 .


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Um, I dont care

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Dap Brannigan wrote...

Aside from the endings, there are plenty of things to nitpick about the game, but one issue in particular really seems to show what direction Bioware is going to continue to take as a developer.  It's absolutely infuriating to me (even as I take a step back and remind myself how dumb it is to be so pissed off about a video game).

Somewhere along the line, for some reason I cannot comprehend, Bioware made the decision to spend their face-modeling money on Diana Allers, rather than giving Tali (a core character in the series) the face reveal she deserved.

I had no idea who Jessica Chobot was before Mass Effect 3.  If the intent of her cameo was to make me a fan of hers, it actually had the opposite effect.  I'm now forever going to associate her name with the failings of ME3.

Is she really that popular, that Bioware thought putting her in the game would boost sales?  Was putting Chobot in the game such a draw, that it was worth it to relegate Tali to a stock photoshop, and kill off Emily Wong on Twitter? 

As a design decision, it feels so dysfunctional and out of touch with what fans expect.  The thing is, I don't see how having Chobot/Allers in the game was beneficial to EA/Bioware in any way.  Whoever forces these stupid marketing gimmicks on Bioware at the cost of game integrity needs to be fired, because they don't even work.


Because some single guy can sit in front of a computer and model some dream-skank?
Because they thought teenage boys would happily ****** to her image?

IDK. I didn't even know she was a real person until a few days ago - I just thought she was another space skank like Kelly Chambers, except more revolting in appearance.  I wish Emily Wong or Al-Jilani was on my ship - that would have been fun.

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*magical double post*

Modifié par Huojin, 08 avril 2012 - 07:33 .


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Reciever80 wrote...

As for tali, i'm sure they didn't want to do a face reveal. Doing that would violate the desire of people like myself for it to remain a mystery. As for Emily Wong, I'm sure she's way too busy doing other things than sitting on the SSV Normandy, even if it is commanded by Shep.


There are three things that are good to know.

1. Tomorrows winning lottery numbers.
2. Tomorrows weather.
3. Tali's face.

Atleast ... us normal people would want to. Image IPB

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I liked allers. It was something new to have a journalist on board. Her voice acting wasent the greatest, but it wasent so bad either.

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Reciever80 wrote...

As for tali, i'm sure they didn't want to do a face reveal. Doing that would violate the desire of people like myself for it to remain a mystery. As for Emily Wong, I'm sure she's way too busy doing other things than sitting on the SSV Normandy, even if it is commanded by Shep.


yeah, i'm pretty sure bioware wern't planning on showing her face, which I would have respected. Instead they caved to demanding fans, panicked and came up with the rush photoshop job. Now, fans are stuck with an Image of tali when it would have been beter to have a full reveal done well, or kept her face a mistery. what we got was lazy and completly unacceptable :L

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Because we've been talking about Olivia Munn being in game instead of Chobot for a few pages now.

But you're only up my ass, aren't you? :wub:


Try a different technique. 


Excuse me? A different technique? And just what the hell are you trying to say, you annoying, whiney ****?
































Like that?

A little softer? More rage? Or more trolling?

More love? More hatred?

This is getting pretty stale, but I guess I could always use an admirer on every forum I go to.

Will you follow me into a new thread, as well? Cry some more when I make an "off-color" joke? Flabbergast me some more?

Not many people get me so...flustered. :wub:

No...this needs a "shy" face like from Vindictus.


Uh huh. Keep trying. 

Remember, you're the one that made the comment first. Mocking me doesn't change it. 


Only you think I'm trying to change or deflect something.


Well, I did tell you how I thought that conversation played out. You never corrected me, so I assume I'm correct. 

You got called out on something. It made you uncomfortable. You've tried to wriggle out of that discomfort.

Doesn't change the fact that you started off with a sexist joke. Now you look like you're just ... I dunno. Trying to save face? To avoid seeing that you said something problematic (and that the problem is me, not you)?


Correct? What? Who cares about being correct? Well..you do, obviously. For some reason.

I know what I said, I said it for a reason. It blew my mind that you cried so hard, and still are. And why are you still dragging it on? For like 7 pages. Your posts to me are just pointless provoking, trolling. You want me to say that you're correct about something? About what?


Okay, you're right and correct. You are right about everything, the whole universe. My little opinionated joke thing was wrong and you're right and so much better than I am.

I don't care. I don't care that you didn't like it. What I do care about? I never leave a conversation or argument until both sides agree that it is finished or you just up and leave.

This pointless back and forth was fun for a while, but now? Geez, you're annoying.

No, I can't say stupid, you have some semblance of intelligence. I can't come up with a word to describe it.


If we're having a conversation, I want to be correct about what's going on. I told you how I saw the conversation. You never corrected. So I assumed I was already reading it correctly. 

You made a sexist joke. You got called out for it. You're upset. Keep being upset. I don't mind. Keep mocking me. Keep insulting me. Keep pointing to others who did the same thing. Keep pretending you don't care. 

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Sire Styx wrote...

I haven't finished reading this topic yet, but I'd like to point out that I don't know who Chobot is. I assume she's the VA for Diana Allers, but it justs brings some circular logic that they've added Diana to the game because she's voiced by Chobot because Chobot voices Diana from ME3.....

I expect she must be some important person then?

(I'm not expecting a reply, lol, I'm just showing that I dunno who she is. I expect I'll find out by reading this topic)


Chobot is an on-camera host and staff writer for IGN. She's modeled, been on TV and stuff.

She's become quite popular because of her attractiveness, suggestive nature and her love for video games and anime/manga.

What teenager wouldn't love a girl like that?

Well, I don't, but you see my point.

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Iwillbeback wrote...

Is that really a joke.
Not trying to be sexist here but men and women are different and each have their own equipment to use.
Women can use their equipment to further themselves, its just a way of life.


Yes, it is sexist. Implying that a professional woman only got to her position because she slept with someone is always sexist.

Now you know. And knowing is half the battle!

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Because if they didn't put Diana Allers in the game, they'll only have 74 perfect scores instead of 75.