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[hoodaticus]

Volc19 wrote... (4 minutes ago)

This is too Destroy-centric. Why is it that EVERY theory has Destory sitting atop an ivory tower?

Sovvy taking the place of the Starchild would be interesting, but I can't see him as a guide that would assist Shepard in arming the Crucible. He would be a better boss-fight. Sovereign taunts the player as he manipulates the environment in attempts to kill you/or he could assume control of a Keeper and it could be like Saren's thing at the end of ME1/both things simultaneously.

Then, the Prothean VI could give the run-down on the Crucible's functions.

And in the last days, threads shall rise from their graves and walk the earth, feasting on the threads of the living.

Modifié par hoodaticus, 07 août 2012 - 03:07 .

[Wattamelun]

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Is just curious that the link port where Sovereign (AKA, Nazara) docked on ME1 is the same place where a Starchild (that claims to be reaper's boss) appear.

I have the theory that the star child is actually NAZARA, the sovereign, the reaper boss who tried to start the cycle but when failed, transfered himself to the Citadel, in order to survive.

This. Thisx100000000000000000000000. That conversation would have been one of the most baddass in Mass Effect. Now every time I beat ME3 all I'll be thinking is, "Imagine how much better this would have been if Nazara was there." 

[Ironhandjustice]

hoodaticus wrote...

Volc19 wrote... (4 minutes ago)

This is too Destroy-centric. Why is it that EVERY theory has Destory sitting atop an ivory tower?

Sovvy taking the place of the Starchild would be interesting, but I can't see him as a guide that would assist Shepard in arming the Crucible. He would be a better boss-fight. Sovereign taunts the player as he manipulates the environment in attempts to kill you/or he could assume control of a Keeper and it could be like Saren's thing at the end of ME1/both things simultaneously.

Then, the Prothean VI could give the run-down on the Crucible's functions.

And in the last days, threads shall rise from their graves and walk the earth, feasting on the threads of the living.

I love Left4Thread, actually:whistle:

[Commander_Corbin]

Master Che wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

Master Che wrote...

to me, synthesis = Humans are the new collectors. The EDI's and Modins respective DNA analyses of the Collectors in ME2 solidified this for me.

EDI discovered that their DNA showed signs of "extensive genetic rewrite" including three fewer chromosomes, reduced heterochromatin structure, and the elimination of superfluous "junk" sequences.

Mordin determines that the Reapers indoctrinated the Protheans and compensated for their growing lack of ability due to prolonged indoctrination through cybernetic modifications. The modifications are beyond any form of repair, each Collector drone being little more than a clone—it's unknown if they even still possess any form of gender—riddled with cybernetics, lacking glands or digestive system, and having any form of intelligence or self-awareness completely eradicated by indoctrination.

So you are saying that a synthetic would lie? that seems pretty big waste of time.   I mean you are basically saying that the reapers have the same nature as organic, deceptive? I imagine that they are cold and calculated.  Doesn't lying leads to emotional responses?

You mean AI? Yes.  How else do you think EDI was allowed to exist after the Alliance retook the Normandy? Go back to the conversation with Engineer Adams and EDI's deception.

Reapers were trying to convince people on Earth to come out and cooperate so they will be shown mercy.  This is discussed later in the game around Priority Earth or just before it.  From the Wikia page:


"Victims who cooperate, surrender, or are captured by husks are sorted into camps. It is believed the husks possess receptors that allow them to analyze a victim's DNA through sight, smell, or touch. Victims that meet their standards are herded from the camps into processor ships. Those the husks deem insufficient are either turned into husks themselves or indoctrinated to serve as slave labor. The Reapers use this last option to give their victims false hope -- many captives who would otherwise fight back become docile when they see members of their own kind obey and survive".

Lying leads to emotional responses from the person being lied to.  Lies are to manipulate things in your favor.

That sounds just like what happened in 1940's Germany! This is why I choose Destroy. How can I suddenly trust this "benevolent" AI after witnessing horrifying atrocity after atrocity?

[Jadebaby]

I like this theory.

But they weren't in the exact same spot. Sovereign was situated on top of the Citadel Tower.

The Catalyst appears underneath it. That's right. You're actually upside down at the RGB chamber.

[ElSuperGecko]

It's an interesting idea, although I think "Control" fits more with Shepard becoming a Reaper based on humanity and Synthesis is simply huskifying everyone in the galaxy.

[thepimpto]

Doesn't work unless they retcon the retcons. Leviathan created the Catalyst, Catalyst created Harbinger (very first Reaper), Sovereign was a Reaper created after Harbinger therefore cannot be Catalyst.

Interesting idea, just cannot see how it would/could be implemented.

[Neizd]

BSN needs "I like it" button. It's interesting and original theory

[Ironhandjustice]

Thanks for the support!

thepimpto wrote...

Doesn't work unless they retcon the retcons. Leviathan created the Catalyst, Catalyst created Harbinger (very first Reaper), Sovereign was a Reaper created after Harbinger therefore cannot be Catalyst.

Interesting idea, just cannot see how it would/could be implemented.

But they claimed to create an intelligence, not that this intelligence is the catalyst. The first IA created Harbinger, but... is explained that those two concepts are different? Anyone said that the intellingence did not BECAME harbinger?

Implemented... well, we need an scary voice, change starkid mesh, and work...

[Raphaelrcm]

Well... i'll replay "The Leviathan" to see this part of who create who...

Btw, interesting idea friend! Sovereign (Nazara) really could transfer himself to the citadel, if he could do it to Saren, in the final fight of ME1 (if i recall correctly).

Good one! ^^

[Yate]

what?

no... this makes no sense

[Sousabird]

Makes sense but if it were true they should have mentioned it in game

[Reth Shepherd]

Sousabird wrote...

Makes sense but if it were true they should have mentioned it in game

Like the vanilla game mentioned that the vaunted Catalyst was actually an AI, and not a power source?

[Reth Shepherd]

We're looking for the Catalyst. We meet someone or something that identifies itself as such. At no point do we run an identity check on it. (For all we know, it could be Avina with a different profile picture. For that matter, we have no way of knowing that Avina isn't Glowboy.)

[Ironhandjustice]

Reth Shepherd wrote...

We're looking for the Catalyst. We meet someone or something that identifies itself as such. At no point do we run an identity check on it. (For all we know, it could be Avina with a different profile picture. For that matter, we have no way of knowing that Avina isn't Glowboy.)

That would have been another interesting point. Avina was reaper lord or was possesed by sovereign when we blow him up!

xD