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[Wittand25]

Washell wrote...

DarkSpiral wrote...

In the 900 years (is that the right number?) since the First Blight the Joining has become the initiation rite, obviously. 

We're in the 9th age of the Chantry's calendar. Andraste waged war on the Tevinter empire after the first Blight. The Chantry was founded on her teachings. Each age is a hundred years. The Calender postdates the first Blight or maybe slightly overlaps it if year zero is the year of Andraste's birth. So yes, it's been 900 years.

The Chantry calender starts with the election of the first divine not with Andraste. Andraste died 170 years before the year one. And the start of the first blight predates Andraste by another 200 years. The blight endet when she herself was eleven. ( according to the game guide)

Modifié par Wittand25, 05 décembre 2009 - 10:40 .

[DarkSpiral]

Ok, I missed that part. So the First Blight lasted nearly two full centuries? Whoa.

[Demigod]

While as Washell says the written history is likely to be patchy and written with agenda, that still doesn't explain how the archdemon was killed with no grey wardens, unless they had another way of gaining the abilities of the real wardens agenda or not the plot hole is still there.

I asked for opinions, and thanks everyone who gave them, but no one seems to have seen anything in game or the guide that explains this. As it stands its a plot hole. P_k_r is probably right in suggesting it was left for further expansion, but it is still annoying to leave such an obvious plot hole open.

[Maconbar]

You don't have to be an official member of Team Grey Warden to develop the darkspawn "resistance". It requires two things: first significant exposure to tainted blood and two surviving that initial exposure. It appears the the Grey Wardens serve to in effect codify/regularize that phenomena. Its quite possible that the the survival rate in the situation of uncontrolled exposure is much lower than that seen in the Grey Warden ritual.

[Taleroth]

DarkSpiral wrote...

Ok, I missed that part. So the First Blight lasted nearly two full centuries? Whoa.

It only lasted 90 years, as I recall.

[TheRealIncarnal]

Well, is it possible that they wounded the Archdemon but didn't kill it? It does bleed when you wound it, so perhaps that's where the first drops came from.



I doubt we'll ever get an exact explanation since it happened so long ago and is such a minor plot point. We do however know that a Wizard did it, so that itself may be answer enough.

[DarkSpiral]

TheRealIncarnal wrote...

We do however know that a Wizard did it, so that itself may be answer enough.

We do?  I completely missed that part.  I didn't even know they named the person that ended the first Blight.

[Sylvius the Mad]

If you read the codex entires you collect in the Deep Roads, you will learn how the first blight ended.

[Svest]

Its not really a plot hole, just a question that hasn't been definitively answered yet.

There are a number of logical explanations. The simplest being that they killed the first archdemon several times during the first blight. Why wasn't this in the codex (though as mentioned earlier in this post I thought I read about it somewhere too)? That's simple. Just because the PC doesn't come across a book that mentions it doesn't mean one doesn't exist somewhere in Thedas. Books that are over 900 years old aren't exactly common. The emergence of the Gray Wardens could simply mark the time when someone finally figured out how to kill the archdemon for good.

A second explanation is simply archdemon blood is not essential to the process of becoming a Gray Warden. It was added later for whatever reason. Maybe it makes the Joining safer, or extends the time before a warden succumbs to the taint, or enhances their abilities to detect and "listen in" on the darkspawn. The original "Gray Wardens" (even though they might not have called themselves that) could have gone through a different ritual to get the taint.

Just because the details are sketchy doesn't mean there is a problem in the story. One would expect that from a time ~1000 years ago during which humanity was being ravaged by a seemingly, at the time at least, invincible enemy.

Modifié par Svest, 07 décembre 2009 - 09:40 .

[Vaetar]

I am still expecting said Archdemon to pop up in an expansion/sequel... ^^