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[earthonline]

themaltaproject wrote...

Hey OP, despite the flaming you are about to get or are already receiving, I support you.

thanks 

[mzink]

Thank you for all your hard work bioware!! 

Modifié par mzink, 09 avril 2012 - 04:31 .

[earthonline]

mzink wrote...

Thank you for all your hard work bioware!! 

+1

[Valkyre4]

I support this move from Bioware myself and I will not join the people condemning this move before even seeing it. It is ridiculous for some people to actually believe there is NO WAY imaginable to explain things in the ending and that there is no chance to be fixed.

you think that a sci fi series based on all sorts of fantastic elements is too hard to be explained? Really? We are talking about a series that has stuff like Project Lazarus, Sentient Machines, FTL communication devices, real time translators, Medi gel which cures everything (only when it is not too dramatic for storytelling...), and lol.... omni tools...

yeah, and out of all that you cannot even fathom how it is possible for some Mass Relays exploding without destroying the universe, or why synthetic logic is unreasonable and retarded when viewed from an organics perspective...

As if Reapers havent stated clearly from the very first game that they do what they do just because they can do it and that we will never understand it.

As if synthetics killing synthetics to prevent them, is so unreasonable and unheard of in human history and the wars it wages for the "reasons it does" (prime examples are almost every civil war, world wars, Iraqi wars etc etc)

So yeah the ending is perfectably fixable, if people remember that they are watching a sci fi series full of unbelievable and unexplained stuff to begin with...

Modifié par Valkyre4, 09 avril 2012 - 08:58 .

[Yalision]

Can't wait for them to flesh out the endings. Edited because I realized this was no spoilers.

Modifié par Yalision, 09 avril 2012 - 09:40 .

[Pairikas]

Me: "I hate the Ending, its terrible."
Bioware: "Okay, I give you more of what you hate"

Spectacular.

[Random Geth]

Pairikas wrote...

Me: "I hate the Ending, its terrible."
Bioware: "Okay, I give you more of what you hate"

Spectacular.

[dubdevo]

Fleshdress wrote...

I support, you're probably going to be trampled with people complaining that this isn't good enough but if they can have 10 trillion complaint threads surely we can have one praise thread.

Thank you Bioware for taking the time and effort. I very much so look forward to more ME3 closure. Very excited.

Actually there are some of us, that have promoted people to post positive things.  We may complain, but I always thought people should voice their opinions so we can see where the community/fanbase stands.  I can't say that I'm not excited for the new content though.

Thanks for the memories bioware!

Modifié par dubdevo, 09 avril 2012 - 09:52 .

[chester013]

More crap ending is still crap, I won't grovel at their feet for 'clarification' or the fact that it's free.

[Ben Shep]

I support Bioware!

[MrTijger]

chester013 wrote...

More crap ending is still crap, I won't grovel at their feet for 'clarification' or the fact that it's free.

I must have missed the email in which I was asked to grovel for a freebie, I guess they only sent that to very special people like you.

[MortalEngines]

I'll admit. Initially, I was as angry and annoyed as everyone else about the ending. Thought it didn't really make sense and I felt like I had zero closure. After the initial fury (propelled once I went on the forums and saw everyone else was angry too), I calmed down, realized I didn't really care that much and still enjoyed the rest of the game. So I was good with Bioware.

Now that they're giving me the closure that I wanted, I'm extra good with them too! And I can't wait for the DLC. Do I want a different ending? Yeah, I wouldn't mind one. But I accept that Bioware doesn't feel that it's what they want to do and feel that the DLC will be enough. It's their game, let them do as they see fit.

To be honest, I don't think I would of nearly been as mad until I came on these forums. The same goes for a lot of people. The 'movement' (of anger) was one of those things you just get dragged into - it happens a lot on BSN. People start hating stuff cause other people do (not that I don't understand why people hated the ending, but this whole Bioware is corrupt/last straw/collapsing nonsense).

Same thing happened with DA2, a game I actually thought was quite alright. Not a masterpiece, but a decent game. Unlike the apparent car-crash some people try to make it out to be on these forums.

So thank you Bioware, I support you and look forward to Dragon Age 3 (And my Aria Lithograph )

Modifié par MortalEngines, 09 avril 2012 - 10:57 .

[fchopin]

If the plot holes are fixed and there is clarification on the 3 different endings and also the EMS is fixed for SP then i will be very happy with the extended cut.

We also need clarification on the reapers and how they came in to existence.
Was the catalyst created first and then the catalyst create the reapers or was the catalyst created as a safety protocol if the reapers turned wild.

Are the reapers free to do what their programming dictates and the catalyst only interferes if something goes wrong or is the catalyst dictating what the reapers do without free will?

Modifié par fchopin, 09 avril 2012 - 11:06 .

[BodilessSleeper]

I do, as most seem to, have some major complaints regarding the ending. Yes, it didn't feel like an end to my journey and a major element of the plot was introduced 10 minutes before the credits rolled - and yet, I am excited for the DLC and the future of the Mass Effect Series!

I personally adored the third installment despite its flawed ending and shall remain cautiously optimistic with regards to the Extended Cut DLC. I suppose that the astonishing amount of backlash the ending caused is a by-product of our passion and love for the franchise and its universe and characters~

[Rotkaepchen]

OP, you can't be real, can you ?

Clarifying a turd only gets you sh*t water.

On the other hand, some may love sh*t water !

[MortalEngines]

Rotkaepchen wrote...

OP, you can't be real, can you ?

Clarifying a turd only gets you sh*t water.

On the other hand, some may love sh*t water !

He is real - as are othe people commenting here. Believe it or not, an ending is not the only thing that exists about a game you know? There is the I dunno, 30 hours you play before, that some might have enjoyed. 

Also it's over-dramatic and complete hyberbole, to say that the ME3 ending was 'turd' as you put it. Did it have it's issues? Yeah. But did it also have it's good bits? Yes it did (personally, I adored the whole TIM-Anderson-Shepard bit). Not an amazing or awe-inspiring ending and slightly disappointing. But far from 'turd'.

[billywaffles]

I agree. Thank you bioware for your dedication, you have my support!

I don't care you mess up sometimes. We all commit mistakes, but that is what makes us human. No perfect game exists and no perfect game will ever exist.

You are still one of the best companies!

[Rotkaepchen]

MortalEngines wrote...

He is real - as are othe people commenting here. Believe it or not, an ending is not the only thing that exists about a game you know? There is the I dunno, 30 hours you play before, that some might have enjoyed. 

Also it's over-dramatic and complete hyberbole, to say that the ME3 ending was 'turd' as you put it. Did it have it's issues? Yeah. But did it also have it's good bits? Yes it did (personally, I adored the whole TIM-Anderson-Shepard bit). Not an amazing or awe-inspiring ending and slightly disappointing. But far from 'turd'.

If my comment somehow excluded that ME3 had its moments, I'd like to "clarify" this. I've also got no problem respecting  the fact that some ppl like the endings. I can only hardly comprehend how this extended cut could fix ANYTHING.

[zartan88]

If they can clear up the endings a little better - such as the 'Normandy Escape' and hopefully show more of the'War Assets in play, then I'm grateful.

It'll have to be done well though or I think it will do more harm than good.

[_symphony]

is this a sarcasm thread?

[Rotkaepchen]

billywaffles wrote...

I agree. Thank you bioware for your dedication, you have my support!

I don't care you mess up sometimes. We all commit mistakes, but that is what makes us human. No perfect game exists and no perfect game will ever exist.

You are still one of the best companies!

It's only human to screw up. Nobody has a problem with this.

But, if one screws up, the right course of action is to come forward and say "ok, we screwed up, we're sorry, we'll try to fix it asap".

What did we get instead was first total silence, then denial, then "you're a bunch of entitled brats, f**k y, we don't have to listen to you, look at the positive reviews of the (oblivious) mags". And now, the're forced to aknowledge that is a "small" prob with the ending(s). But are they willing to invest resources in it and make it right ? No, BW just dances around it.

Modifié par Rotkaepchen, 09 avril 2012 - 11:51 .

[Jadebaby]

Rotkaepchen wrote...

billywaffles wrote...

I agree. Thank you bioware for your dedication, you have my support!

I don't care you mess up sometimes. We all commit mistakes, but that is what makes us human. No perfect game exists and no perfect game will ever exist.

You are still one of the best companies!

It's only human to screw up. Nobody has a problem with this.

But, if one screws up, the right course of action is to come forward and say "ok, we screwed up, we're sorry, we'll try to fix it asap".

What did we get instead was first total silence, the denial, then "you're a bunch of entitled brats, f**k y, we don't have to listen to you, look at the positive reviews of the (oblivious) mags". And now, the're forced to aknowledge that is a "small" prob with the endin(s). But are they willing to invest resources in it and make it right ? No, BW just dances around it.

this^

[MortalEngines]

Rotkaepchen wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

He is real - as are othe people commenting here. Believe it or not, an ending is not the only thing that exists about a game you know? There is the I dunno, 30 hours you play before, that some might have enjoyed. 

Also it's over-dramatic and complete hyberbole, to say that the ME3 ending was 'turd' as you put it. Did it have it's issues? Yeah. But did it also have it's good bits? Yes it did (personally, I adored the whole TIM-Anderson-Shepard bit). Not an amazing or awe-inspiring ending and slightly disappointing. But far from 'turd'.

If my comment somehow excluded that ME3 had its moments, I'd like to "clarify" this. I've also got no problem respecting  the fact that some ppl like the endings. I can only hardly comprehend how this extended cut could fix ANYTHING.

I wouldn't say I like the ending per say. I'm just satisfied with it and have gotten over my initial disappointments. 

It is not an 'extension'. It's clarifying it and it actually fixes alot (assuming it will do what I think it will). Firstly, you learn (hopefully) what happens to the fleets left on earth and the situation with the relays and how it pans out (a 'plot hole' as some claim). Secondly you learn about Joker and the crew and the conclusion of their journey on the planet and also learn why Joker left like he did. Thirdly, we get closure on our LIs and companions and presumably their ends. Fourth, we see what happens to our Shepard if he does live, and we hopefully will also see how he is remembered when he dies. 

These are issues people have stated that they have with the end numerous times (especially the relays and the Joker/planet bit). To say it 'fixes' nothing is not true. A thing that alot of people hate is that their choices 'amounted to nothing'. An extra epilogue and cutscenes can fix this by showing the consequences of their actions beyond the final choices.

[MortalEngines]

 Sorry for the double post, but I thought I should address this seperately rather than edit my post:

Rotkaepchen wrote...
It's only human to screw up. Nobody has a problem with this.

But, if one screws up, the right course of action is to come forward and say "ok, we screwed up, we're sorry, we'll try to fix it asap". 

What did we get instead was first total silence, then denial, then "you're a bunch of entitled brats, f**k y, we don't have to listen to you, look at the positive reviews of the (oblivious) mags". And now, the're forced to aknowledge that is a "small" prob with the ending(s). But are they willing to invest resources in it and make it right ? No, BW just dances around it.

 

Again with the hyperbole. Firstly, I've been on this forums since ME3 was released. And we never had 'total silence'. After a few days, Bioware were telling us that they were listening to our issues and feedback. There was a load of talk between fans and developer via forums, twitter, facebook etc. You got to remember this is just after a game is released, there is alot of work that gets done after and the devs are busy. If you looked outside this particular forum, devs were taking part and talking (especially about bugs and glitches). Alot of devs stayed away from this area because people were so hostile.

There was never 'denial'. How can you be in denial over a subjective thing. There was a disagreement that the endings didn't make sense and that they should be changed. But you can't be in denial when this is all opinions. 

Also the 'entitled brats' etc. bit was done soley by gaming sites. None of that was Bioware. Give me one quote by a bioware dev saying that the fans were entitled brats. You can say all you want about conspiracy theories of EA/Bioware paying companies to slander fans but in truth, it was simply sites expressing their opinions as usual.

And why shouldn't Bioware point out the good reviews? They were trying to say that we acknowledge that fans had issues but look, alot of the game was seen as good. 

Finally, they have not acknowledge there is an issue with the ending. They've acknowledged that people want more clarification and that some were not completely satisfied. These are all opinions, not facts.

[Lord Phoebus]

I'll say thank you to Bioware for doing something to address the quagmire they created. Whether it's something good or bad remains to be seen.