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[Dridengx]

Positive thread - check
Anti enders whining about the ending - Check

yup. but...but.. people who loved the endings are the trolls. yeah right

[kbct]

Dridengx wrote...

Positive thread - check
Anti enders whining about the ending - Check

yup. but...but.. people who loved the endings are the trolls. yeah right

The pro-enders are just the distinct minority. Only 1 in 50 people liked the ending as-is.

[Bcoolpro]

kbct wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Positive thread - check
Anti enders whining about the ending - Check

yup. but...but.. people who loved the endings are the trolls. yeah right

The pro-enders are just the distinct minority. Only 1 in 50 people liked the ending as-is.

I find it amusing that the anti-enders who became so enraged at being call a minority are now pulling the same rhetoric just because a few preliminary polls favor their position. 

[shinyelf]

kbct wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Positive thread - check
Anti enders whining about the ending - Check

yup. but...but.. people who loved the endings are the trolls. yeah right

The pro-enders are just the distinct minority. Only 1 in 50 people liked the ending as-is.

Can we please stop the biased non-representative statistics now? I'm not looking to get into a discussion, so I will simply request(it is still your choice but please) that you do not stray from the spirit of this thread if you intend post in it. 

[kbct]

Bcoolpro wrote...

kbct wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Positive thread - check
Anti enders whining about the ending - Check

yup. but...but.. people who loved the endings are the trolls. yeah right

The pro-enders are just the distinct minority. Only 1 in 50 people liked the ending as-is.

I find it amusing that the anti-enders who became so enraged at being call a minority are now pulling the same rhetoric just because a few preliminary polls favor their position. 

I never get enraged. Do you have some evidence the pro-enders are the majority? Hmmm? 

[Bcoolpro]

kbct wrote...

Bcoolpro wrote...

kbct wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Positive thread - check
Anti enders whining about the ending - Check

yup. but...but.. people who loved the endings are the trolls. yeah right

The pro-enders are just the distinct minority. Only 1 in 50 people liked the ending as-is.

I find it amusing that the anti-enders who became so enraged at being call a minority are now pulling the same rhetoric just because a few preliminary polls favor their position. 

I never get enraged. Do you have some evidence the pro-enders are the majority? Hmmm? 

I wasn't speaking of you personally and I have said in previous posts that I think it is too early to say authoritatively one way or another.  Consider the original Star Trek didn't do well then it was first aired... it wasn't until later when it was in syndication that it exploded. 

Modifié par Bcoolpro, 10 avril 2012 - 09:45 .

[kbct]

shinyelf wrote...

kbct wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Positive thread - check
Anti enders whining about the ending - Check

yup. but...but.. people who loved the endings are the trolls. yeah right

The pro-enders are just the distinct minority. Only 1 in 50 people liked the ending as-is.

Can we please stop the biased non-representative statistics now? I'm not looking to get into a discussion, so I will simply request(it is still your choice but please) that you do not stray from the spirit of this thread if you intend post in it. 

Biased, self-selecting polls have predictive power if the sample is large enough and the results are lopsided enough. You just need to increase the margin of error.

[shinyelf]

"I never get enraged. Do you have some evidence the pro-enders are the majority? Hmmm? "

If we use the empirical-inductive method, sure, after all there are more pro-Enders in this thread, and therefore that must apply to the rest of the population.

See I can use BS methods and theories, and while it is not definitive proof it is just about as solid as yours

[shinyelf]

"Biased, self-selecting polls have predictive power if the sample is large enough and the results are lopsided enough. You just need to increase the margin of error."

That is the method of quantity, what if(missed that one during proofread) we employ the method of quality instead? Professional game reviewers praise the game, and since they posses expertise beyond mine(and presumably most others) the game must be good.

Remember you proof is only as good as your source.

Modifié par shinyelf, 10 avril 2012 - 09:50 .

[kbct]

shinyelf wrote...

"I never get enraged. Do you have some evidence the pro-enders are the majority? Hmmm? "

If we use the empirical-inductive method, sure, after all there are more pro-Enders in this thread, and therefore that must apply to the rest of the population.

See I can use BS methods and theories, and while it is not definitive proof it is just about as solid as yours

These types of polls are used by companies.

[kbct]

shinyelf wrote...

"Biased, self-selecting polls have predictive power if the sample is large enough and the results are lopsided enough. You just need to increase the margin of error."

That is the method of quantity, what I'd we employ the method of quality instead? Professional game reviewers praise the game, and since they posses expertise beyond mine(and presumably most others) the game must be good.

Remember you proof is only as good as your source.

The difference is 100 people vs. 71,000 people. 

[shinyelf]

kbct wrote...

shinyelf wrote...

"I never get enraged. Do you have some evidence the pro-enders are the majority? Hmmm? "

If we use the empirical-inductive method, sure, after all there are more pro-Enders in this thread, and therefore that must apply to the rest of the population.

See I can use BS methods and theories, and while it is not definitive proof it is just about as solid as yours

These types of polls are used by companies.

And sometimes companies f*** up, every method has a weakness, my point is that you can always bend data to support your point. And if you really want to disprove my method you will have to use the hypothetical-deductive method, do this by finding atleast half the people who bought the game and the get a clear answer then I'm going to believe you (was that condescending? God I hope not, but if it was I'd like to say sorry)

[kbct]

Bcoolpro wrote...
I wasn't speaking of you personally and I have said in previous posts that I think it is too early to say authoritatively one way or another.  Consider the original Star Trek didn't do well then it was first aired... it wasn't until it later then it was in syndication that it exploded. 

I just didn't appreciate popping into the thread and the first post I see talks about "whining anti-enders."

[Menethra]

Dridengx wrote...

Positive thread - check
Anti enders whining about the ending - Check

yup. but...but.. people who loved the endings are the trolls. yeah right

Not all pro enders are trolls, just people like you.

Half your posts are flame bait nothing more, each thread i see you enter it's designed to intentionally cause trouble.

Modifié par Menethra, 10 avril 2012 - 09:57 .

[shinyelf]

kbct wrote...

shinyelf wrote...

"Biased, self-selecting polls have predictive power if the sample is large enough and the results are lopsided enough. You just need to increase the margin of error."

That is the method of quantity, what I'd we employ the method of quality instead? Professional game reviewers praise the game, and since they posses expertise beyond mine(and presumably most others) the game must be good.

Remember you proof is only as good as your source.

The difference is 100 people vs. 71,000 people. 

Pure mob mentality, join the biggest crowd and all that, perhaps the hundred reviewers were the only ones with the guts to stand up for themselves.

Im not saying that you are wrong, I'm just concluding that you aren't necessarily correct.

[kbct]

shinyelf wrote...

kbct wrote...

These types of polls are used by companies.

And sometimes companies f*** up, every method has a weakness, my point is that you can always bend data to support your point. And if you really want to disprove my method you will have to use the hypothetical-deductive method, do this by finding atleast half the people who bought the game and the get a clear answer then I'm going to believe you (was that condescending? God I hope not, but if it was I'd like to say sorry)

Yes, companies use these types of polls. You don't have to believe it. But that's why you have to increase the margin of error. It's not 2%. However, it may be 10% or 30%. But it's not 51%.

Besides, there is confirming evidence everywhere. Don't put your head in the sand.

Modifié par kbct, 10 avril 2012 - 09:59 .

[shinyelf]

Okay, sorry if this got a bit out of hand, I would like some more discussion, but it would divert attention from the true purpose of the thread. PM me it would be cool.

Modifié par shinyelf, 10 avril 2012 - 10:01 .

[kbct]

shinyelf wrote...

Im not saying that you are wrong, I'm just concluding that you aren't necessarily correct.

But I am saying you're wrong.

[Diablos2525]

To be fair, they can't introduce new endings if they want to continue the Franchise and have everyone start off at point A. A lot of my anger has been abated by this announcement, and I re-purchased me2 and me3 for xbox 360 since I had me2 and collectors me3 for ps3. I digitally downloaded ME1 so I could have the three full game experience. In other words, yes I am back to being a bioware fanboy so long as this ending dlc is done right.

[shinyelf]

kbct wrote...

shinyelf wrote...

Im not saying that you are wrong, I'm just concluding that you aren't necessarily correct.

But I am saying you're wrong.

Good joke, but really, you seem to understand the theory just fine so clearly you aren't stupid, which means you are debating it purely for the sake of it(that is cool by the way) but at least we can agree to disagree right?

[Solmanian]

I didn't love the endings, but certainly didn't think they were the worst ending in history, oblivion anyone?
The EC DLC is exactly what I wanted. As long as bioware continues its decade long trend of giving me exactly what I ask, and ignore those of opposite opinions than me, I'll continue to be their fanatic fan.

calrification: I believe that all people have the right to their own opinion, and noone should harras them just because they have a different opinion than theirs. whats importent is that mine is the only one that matters, so there's no reason to argue over it.