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[ArkkAngel007]

The only way I can see it happening is if BioWare releases DLC with unique maps and characters that take place back in the Prothean Era, that doesn't factor into GR.

Won't happen though, both for gameplay and technical issues that BioWare will not want to deal with.

[Brettic]

I'm going to voice support for the OP.

Bringing in protheans as a playable MP race would not make sense, and I hope BW never does it. I know BW could make it make sense, but it would still be bad regardless.

[Brettic]

Illcadia wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Because there's only one alive in the entire universe and therefore fielding a few thousand protheans makes no sense whatsoever.

Please come up with more original ideas for DLC.

I backhanded the quarians into extinction in my playthrough, and you're giving me a multiplayer with Quarians in it? Bosh'tet, please. Remove the quarians from multiplayer, and then I'll see about supporting an anti-prothean multiplayer movement.

1. That's only in your playthrough, not everyones.

2. That's at the later stage of the game. The MP stuf could easily be taking place before that point in the story.

[MoeRayShep]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Hyperglide wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

I agree.

I prefer the multiplayer to stay lore adjacent

One word: clones.  See also: Collectors.

Clones don't exsist in the ME universe beyoned Shepard do they? 

And that seems rather lame. 

I believe there's a tale of a certain firm-assed Cerberus cheerleader and her much younger identical twin sister to contradict you there.

I support Protheans in MP. Lots of workarounds in lore, plus I would love to have Death Field biotics

[AxisEvolve]

 Let's not act like it's impossible when I just linked all of you to an explanation on how it's entirely possible. 

Brettic wrote...
1. That's only in your playthrough, not everyones.

2. That's at the later stage of the game. The MP stuf could easily be taking place before that point in the story.

 
How do you explain Geth as teammates then?

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 12 avril 2012 - 12:49 .

[Brettic]

AxisEvolve wrote...

 Let's not act like it's impossible when I just linked all of you to an explanation on how it's entirely possible. 

Brettic wrote...
1. That's only in your playthrough, not everyones.

2. That's at the later stage of the game. The MP stuf could easily be taking place before that point in the story.

 
How do you explain Geth as teammates then?

I have a much harder time explaining that and justicars. Because those both take place after tuchanka. I guess for geth you could argue that many joined your side in the fight before priority rannoch was finished. you know after the consensus mission.

[Mckay91]

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

Modifié par Mckay91, 12 avril 2012 - 12:54 .

[mrcanada]

 Disagree.  This is MP and has zero bearing on the story and nor should it conform to its limits.  Include the Prothean and add his awesome ability.  Perfect fit.

[saturos2]

its pretty stupid for elites and spartans to be on the same team on reach too, but its just MP i say bring'em in. it would be interesting.

[Brettic]

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

The whole point of the MP is making it make sense. They put a lot of work into making it make sense. Adding protheans would not make any sense, because they are an extinct race with only one survivor. The only thing they could do is make some separate MP where you can only play protheans and fight their war, which still doesn't make much sense at all. That or they would have to retcon Protheans back from extinction. Which would be a mistake.

[AxisEvolve]

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

My idea is a lot easier.

Prequel missions. 

[Mckay91]

Brettic wrote...

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

The whole point of the MP is making it make sense. They put a lot of work into making it make sense. Adding protheans would not make any sense, because they are an extinct race with only one survivor. The only thing they could do is make some separate MP where you can only play protheans and fight their war, which still doesn't make much sense at all. That or they would have to retcon Protheans back from extinction. Which would be a mistake.

Large parts of Multi-player don't make sense, like why Geth are in Cerberus bases, and why would an elite N7 team be sent to clear Geth from a Cerberus base, and why were Geth on Palavens moon? To make multiplayer make sense you have to make up scenarios in your head and pretend you're playing them out. Is it too much of a stretch for 4 Protheans to be discovered in another Prothean bunker?

AxisEvolve wrote...
My idea is a lot easier.

Prequel missions. 

I like that idea too, as an additional game mode, but the down-side of it is it limits Protheans to only certain maps and that game mode.

Modifié par Mckay91, 12 avril 2012 - 01:03 .

[saturos2]

Brettic wrote...

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

The whole point of the MP is making it make sense. They put a lot of work into making it make sense. Adding protheans would not make any sense, because they are an extinct race with only one survivor. The only thing they could do is make some separate MP where you can only play protheans and fight their war, which still doesn't make much sense at all. That or they would have to retcon Protheans back from extinction. Which would be a mistake.

fighting geth in a cerburus base on noveria or geth on palavens moon makes total sense with the lore and stroy right?

[mrcanada]

Brettic wrote...

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

The whole point of the MP is making it make sense. They put a lot of work into making it make sense. Adding protheans would not make any sense, because they are an extinct race with only one survivor. The only thing they could do is make some separate MP where you can only play protheans and fight their war, which still doesn't make much sense at all. That or they would have to retcon Protheans back from extinction. Which would be a mistake.

Your first mistake is trying to fit MP into the lore and story.  It doesn't, so dont' try.

[Brettic]

saturos2 wrote...

Brettic wrote...

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

The whole point of the MP is making it make sense. They put a lot of work into making it make sense. Adding protheans would not make any sense, because they are an extinct race with only one survivor. The only thing they could do is make some separate MP where you can only play protheans and fight their war, which still doesn't make much sense at all. That or they would have to retcon Protheans back from extinction. Which would be a mistake.

fighting geth in a cerburus base on noveria or geth on palavens moon makes total sense with the lore and stroy right?

Not really, no. It's just utilizing the in game enemies and the in game allies. In in game locations.

[MoeRayShep]

Brettic wrote...

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

The whole point of the MP is making it make sense. They put a lot of work into making it make sense. Adding protheans would not make any sense, because they are an extinct race with only one survivor. The only thing they could do is make some separate MP where you can only play protheans and fight their war, which still doesn't make much sense at all. That or they would have to retcon Protheans back from extinction. Which would be a mistake.

Because none of the Mass Effect storyline until now has featured any sort of retcon...

[TeaCokeProphet]

I don't care if it makes sense, it's fun. We already have geth running around in anyone's universe, including those that haven't encountered the geth yet or destroyed them. Makes little to no sense, and I don't care because it's fun.

[Mckay91]

Brettic wrote...

saturos2 wrote...

Brettic wrote...

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

The whole point of the MP is making it make sense. They put a lot of work into making it make sense. Adding protheans would not make any sense, because they are an extinct race with only one survivor. The only thing they could do is make some separate MP where you can only play protheans and fight their war, which still doesn't make much sense at all. That or they would have to retcon Protheans back from extinction. Which would be a mistake.

fighting geth in a cerburus base on noveria or geth on palavens moon makes total sense with the lore and stroy right?

Not really, no. It's just utilizing the in game enemies and the in game allies. In in game locations.

So while it's just utilizing game enemies, and in-game allies, why not include another in-game ally, Prothean? Multi-player barely makes sense with lore, the fact you have Cerberus and Geth on maps that they never appeared on in Single-player shows that at most it's only loosely following the story-line. Why limit the multi-player experience?

[Brettic]

Mckay91 wrote...

Brettic wrote...

saturos2 wrote...

Brettic wrote...

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

The whole point of the MP is making it make sense. They put a lot of work into making it make sense. Adding protheans would not make any sense, because they are an extinct race with only one survivor. The only thing they could do is make some separate MP where you can only play protheans and fight their war, which still doesn't make much sense at all. That or they would have to retcon Protheans back from extinction. Which would be a mistake.

fighting geth in a cerburus base on noveria or geth on palavens moon makes total sense with the lore and stroy right?

Not really, no. It's just utilizing the in game enemies and the in game allies. In in game locations.

So while it's just utilizing game enemies, and in-game allies, why not include another in-game ally, Prothean? Multi-player barely makes sense with lore, the fact you have Cerberus and Geth on maps that they never appeared on in Single-player shows that at most it's only loosely following the story-line. Why limit the multi-player experience?

There is only one in game prothean ally, and he's on the normandy.

[Deviija]

Much as I love Protheans (and Dark Channel), it would be very strange and unrealistic to see Protheans in MP. Not unless a DLC comes out for the game where a hidden cache of Protheans in stasis come out of hibernation.

[saturos2]

Brettic wrote...

saturos2 wrote...

Brettic wrote...

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

The whole point of the MP is making it make sense. They put a lot of work into making it make sense. Adding protheans would not make any sense, because they are an extinct race with only one survivor. The only thing they could do is make some separate MP where you can only play protheans and fight their war, which still doesn't make much sense at all. That or they would have to retcon Protheans back from extinction. Which would be a mistake.

fighting geth in a cerburus base on noveria or geth on palavens moon makes total sense with the lore and stroy right?

Not really, no. It's just utilizing the in game enemies and the in game allies. In in game locations.

so whats wrong with  getting a message saying they found some random protheans, give MP the particle rifle, and a new porthean inspried map so people can enjoy playing a new race? you know you dont have to play them if they do ifact make them avalible right?

[Mckay91]

Brettic wrote...

Mckay91 wrote...

Brettic wrote...

saturos2 wrote...

Brettic wrote...

Mckay91 wrote...

Mostly ITT: "I don't want Protheans because "lore" and "Just because" so no one else should be able vary their gameplay with new characters."

If Bioware made a mission in Singleplayer mission where a Prothean Research Outpost was discovered with a Prothean team was discovered frozen would it fix the complaining?

The whole point of the MP is making it make sense. They put a lot of work into making it make sense. Adding protheans would not make any sense, because they are an extinct race with only one survivor. The only thing they could do is make some separate MP where you can only play protheans and fight their war, which still doesn't make much sense at all. That or they would have to retcon Protheans back from extinction. Which would be a mistake.

fighting geth in a cerburus base on noveria or geth on palavens moon makes total sense with the lore and stroy right?

Not really, no. It's just utilizing the in game enemies and the in game allies. In in game locations.

So while it's just utilizing game enemies, and in-game allies, why not include another in-game ally, Prothean? Multi-player barely makes sense with lore, the fact you have Cerberus and Geth on maps that they never appeared on in Single-player shows that at most it's only loosely following the story-line. Why limit the multi-player experience?

There is only one in game prothean ally, and he's on the normandy.

There were hundreds of Prothean storage facilities dotted across the galaxy, there could be many more Protheans out there. If people are already making up scenarios in their head about why Geth are in Cerberus bases or Palavens Moon, is it too much that they "pretend" that more Protheans were found at another dig-site? If Bioware added a footnote or a DLC planet where a Prothean outpost was found, with the preserved Prothean team still in stasis, would it bother you seeing them in multi-player? Or maybe Bioware simply tell you that another station was found?

[saturos2]

Oh a great idea would be to have a different species fr that is part of the prothean empire for each class.

[Mendelevosa]

Bioware already broke a ton of lore elements. No reason for them to stop now.

[Autochthon]

saturos2 wrote...

Oh a great idea would be to have a different species fr that is part of the prothean empire for each class.

So...

Prothean Adepts?

With like 5 more races (we've more than a few races mentioned)

Sounds good to me. Random alien vanguards are AWESOME