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[I am KROGAN]

The speculation...is...killi

Modifié par I am KROGAN, 09 avril 2012 - 08:04 .

[Flextt]

Hexley UK wrote...

All good points and I have been thinking along the same lines myself and to be quite honest i'd be quite happy to see another ME game with Sheperd and crew as long as they don't over milk it.

Why they just haven't come out and said this i'm not really sure as it would probably allay some peoples concerns over the endings.

Give them a 2-4 year production cycle and let them have at it I say, quality not quantity.

And try to get the ending right first time this time eh?

After all we all love ME, why else would we be here?

2 years is the production cycle of EA for any IP.

[Apfelweinbrauer]

Casey Hudson presents: Casey Hudson's Mass Effect 4 by Casey Hudson

Really, ME4??
You just killed the whole franchise, is it really necessary to mutilate the corpse now? Please, don't...

Modifié par Apfelweinbrauer, 09 avril 2012 - 08:12 .

[kookman]

KaeserZen wrote...

Casey Hudson said that no other installments of the ME series will take place after ME3, rather during or prior the events of the series.

everyone did you hear that casey hudson said no more mass efffect so no more need for discussion the issue is officially settled(by the way writing this just used up all the sarcasm i have for 2012)

Actually him saying that is probably the strongest piece of evidence there is that there will be a mass effect 4

[rpgfan321]

NooOOOooooOOooooOOooooOOOoooOOOOooo. No.

[Nightdragon8]

With no great push, like the Reapers gave it would be hard....

Oh wait I guess they could always use the Dark Energy plotline....

Even then that would be more Techy type stuff than action... so you will need to have wars and stuff going on that are causing it to happen..... oo I know Biotic bombs the new weapon that is runining the universe...

[cutegigi]

kookman wrote...

KaeserZen wrote...

Casey Hudson said that no other installments of the ME series will take place after ME3, rather during or prior the events of the series.

everyone did you hear that casey hudson said no more mass efffect so no more need for discussion the issue is officially settled(by the way writing this just used up all the sarcasm i have for 2012)

Actually him saying that is probably the strongest piece of evidence there is that there will be a mass effect 4

yeah.... 
I kind of waiting for him to announce what are the 7 number that will NOT come out for the big LOTTO draw so I can buy me some winning tickets.

[Ahms]

kookman wrote...

KaeserZen wrote...

Casey Hudson said that no other installments of the ME series will take place after ME3, rather during or prior the events of the series.

everyone did you hear that casey hudson said no more mass efffect so no more need for discussion the issue is officially settled(by the way writing this just used up all the sarcasm i have for 2012)

Actually him saying that is probably the strongest piece of evidence there is that there will be a mass effect 4

He also said there were 16 different endings to 3. Herp derp.

[Fnork]

After seeing the story crash and burn in the final 10 minutes I think I'll pass on anything mass effect related from now on.

[Hexley UK]

Flextt wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

All good points and I have been thinking along the same lines myself and to be quite honest i'd be quite happy to see another ME game with Sheperd and crew as long as they don't over milk it.

Why they just haven't come out and said this i'm not really sure as it would probably allay some peoples concerns over the endings.

Give them a 2-4 year production cycle and let them have at it I say, quality not quantity.

And try to get the ending right first time this time eh?

After all we all love ME, why else would we be here?

2 years is the production cycle of EA for any IP.

Edited to 3-4 year then obviously 2 ain't long enough.

[nitefyre410]

Kevlar xD wrote...

Halo 4 is coming out this year, therefore Mass Effect 4. Impeccable logic.

 

yeah but the difference is Bungie left  the ending of Halo 3  open enough for them to spin off a new game once they handed  the franchise off. 

Convent done, the  Flood is gone, humanity is safe... Master Cheif  - MIA - because  Spartans are never announced as KIA ..ever.   

Now Master  Cheif has his Illad like journey to get home. 

Spining off a new Mass Effect game... a little bit hard  considering the arson attempt that was made with the ending. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 09 avril 2012 - 09:44 .

[FROST4584]

If Mass Effect 2 and 3 are any sign, I don't really care for Mass Effect under the EA banner.

[ed87]

Mass Effect 4: Rebuilding the Relays and Bioware

Modifié par ed87, 09 avril 2012 - 09:45 .

[Stonesoundjam]

I clarified my bowels an hour ago.

I christened it Mass Effect 4.

Buy further into a franchise that's made me feel more uneasy than growing up with my creepy gropey uncle? No thanks. And I'm not kidding about the uncle

[Talogrungi]

I agree with the OP's basic conclusion; but ending on a cliffhanger isn't the same as ending on a confusing mess of plot holes and deus ex machina.

If they wanted to go into ME4 with a specific set of constants (mass relays destroyed, Shepard dead, Reapers gone) they could have done it in a hundred different ways; with a proper ending and a foreshadowing cliffhanger.

Instead, we get zero foreshadowing, no cliffhanger and an asspulled ending.

[Reorte]

Why wouldn't there be a Mass Effect 4? It seems a stupid thing not to create more games set in the same universe even if they're nothing to do with Shepard.

Different ending implications isn't an issue - just pick one and use that. Pick a different one for later games if you want. That gives a lot of different storytelling options.

Mass Effect is popular, it would make no sense not to make use of that. Or it was popular at any rate. Perhaps the ending was deliberately there to put people off ME so that they don't have to make any more games with it. Talk about killing the goose that laid the golden eggs.

[daecath]

I hope they do make one. Because if they don't get this ending debacle fixed, that's one more BioWare/EA product that I can not buy. And if they do get it fixed, and they manage to make ME4 a good game, then I'd be happy to continue Shepard's story. Of course, my faith that they can produce anything decent from all this is rapidly dwindling.

[Talogrungi]

jojimbo wrote...

great post OP, hehe made me chuckle but i think you give them too much credit,
the stargazer scene with "one more story" was more than likely a set up to make the "now go buy DLC" message we get , the very last thing we see, as we are sitting there, open mouthed, in abject confusion and completely depressed"

Mass Effect4? maybe, but it wont have shep in it, this is i think the end of shepards arc,
and i think youll find EA and Bioware taking Mass Effect into MMO

You could be right; prior to ME3's ending, I would have responded to the prospect of a Mass Effect MMO in the following way:

"Bioware WTF, ME is the best IP in the gaming world right now, you CAN'T ruin its integrity by tacking it on to some crappy MMO with stupid "gather 10 geth flanks" quests and horrible auto-attack combat!!!

No. No. NO."

But now, with the ending that's already accomplished considerable ruination of the game universe, I'm really more "meh, whatever" about the whole prospect.

Modifié par Talogrungi, 09 avril 2012 - 10:35 .

[Candidate 88766]

There'll be spin-offs and prequels aplenty in the ME universe.

But a sequel? No.

The story is over. The Reaper threat is finished, Shepard is almost certainly dead and the face of galactic civilization has been changed forever.

The Reapers were the greatest threat in the ME universe. With them gone, there's no room for sequels. Any new enemy would pale in comparison to them and wouldn't be worth creating a story about.

My guess is that we'll see more action-oriented games in the ME universe. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a TPS or even an FPS in the ME universe. I'm also guessing that at some point we'll have a game where you play on Earth in a story parallel to ME3.

[Larryboy_Dragon]

Opsrbest wrote...

Well if EA wants to transfer the title from Bioware they can by all means do that. But I doubt at this point the people of ME really want to continue the series. I find the entire notion dubious at best however. Without the Reapers, which are a major focal point for the entire galactic civilization, what the next baddie going to be? The guy that finds a way to bring the Reapers back?

Also if your going to speculate be a little less conspiracy theorist.

I was actually annoyed that the reapers were the baddies as long as they were.
I'd like to have seen a ME2 or ME3 where you were someone new, the Normandy was old/beat up (like the falcon) and your Shep as the prime NPC quest giver.

Galactic politics, like we saw a little of in ME1, is way more interesting than some big obvious baddie. I'd have like to have liked to have seen games focused on stopping rouge elements or stop a war with the Terminus Systems.

The way it works out in 2 and 3, you’ve got a story with almost no subtlety or intrigue – the reapers are an obvious threat and it’s ludicrous that no one cares. In a more grounded story you’ve lots of room for twists and double twists.

[CroGamer002]

There is no cliffhanger in Mass Effect 3 endings OP.


And this endings pretty much kills Mass Effect to be continued post-ME3.

So if this was an EA plan, they shot themselves in foot.


Plus, Mass Effect universe is not about Commander Shepard. Trilogy is, but it can easily stand on it's own without Shepard.

Also other characters?
Why would EA want for them to be stranded on some random planet and to live from 22nd century standards to basic necessities?
It makes no goddamn sense for them to do that.



Endings we should have get where our choices mattered and closure would actually make ground for Mass Effect 4.
There's so much left to be done after ME3.

Galaxy needs to get rebuild from Reaper invasion, how will krogans act if Wrex and Bakara rule with genophage cured, how will quarians and geth live, how geth integrate into organic society, how will characters from trilogy would live now that Reapers are defeated and so on.

That's a lot of interesting stuff to see for ME4, if they didn't went with endings we got.
Hell, there's a lot of room for new antagonists.

Like why not Salarian Union?
They barely got touched by Reapers war and certainly want to have most influence in galaxy.
Hell, we could even have yagh's that fight for salarians if they uplift them.
That was kinda hinted on Sur'Kesh.


But nope, this endings shoot that idea.

[Hogge87]

KaeserZen wrote...

Casey Hudson said that no other installments of the ME series will take place after ME3, rather during or prior the events of the series.

Didn't the Halo gang say the same about Halo 3?

And don't you think that EA are going to smash hi opinion with a steel fist when they realise that most of the franchises popularity comes from the characters?

[CroGamer002]

Hogge87 wrote...

KaeserZen wrote...

Casey Hudson said that no other installments of the ME series will take place after ME3, rather during or prior the events of the series.

Didn't the Halo gang say the same about Halo 3?

And don't you think that EA are going to smash hi opinion with a steel fist when they realise that most of the franchises popularity comes from the characters?

Which is why EA should want endings to be fixed.

They can't milk this cow if it's dead.
And endings we got killed it.

[NReed106]

I would point to all the press statements saying that this is the end of the line for Shepard's story, but hey, you can also point to statements like "saving or killing the Rachni Mattered!!!!" or how there are "16 different endings" and prove that everything BW said now has absolutely no credibility or reason to trust.

Wait till ME4 has competitive multiplayer it'll be.....great.......