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[andomguy666uk]

So, Bioware promised us endings that reflected our choices, but all we got was a Generic A, B or C outcome, despite being promised otherwise. Why? Well, blame Casey Hudson, who decided that HE ALONE knew best how to end Mass Effect 3

http://www.gamesthir...e-stays-silent/

Bioware, you guys seriously need to take a good, hard look at yourselves, and perhaps consider doing the following:

1) Fire Casey Hudson - his actions in the past few days and with the fiasco his clear "glory hunting" has caused has done Bioware more damage than anyone else could have done without trying, and clearly warrent harsh action

2) Appologies to the fans - Needless to say, Bioware have got to draw a line in the sand, raise their hands, and say "We've screwed up, we're sorry."

3) Endings and future DLC - If Bioware are going to have any hope in salvaging this mess, They need to release new endings for all (without a 2 year time limit to being free), and should probably make sure that all future DLC for ME3 is free, as an extra "we're sorry" to the fans they've screwed over.

Modifié par andomguy666uk, 09 avril 2012 - 12:23 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

This thread again




you know in your ramblings there, you should stop and think where would Mass Effect be without Casey Hudson

[viperabyss]

First of all, it is not unconfirmed if it was indeed Patrick Weekes. It could be somebody else.

And secondly, even if it was Weekes, you forgot to rope in Mac Walters, who allegedly participated in the ending making process.

And lastly, given that Mass Effect 3 was both Hudson and Walter's baby, I don't think they would screw it up intentionally. There is a story they are trying to tell us. Asking for their head on the platter is not going to make that story better.

Modifié par viperabyss, 09 avril 2012 - 11:28 .

[Silpheed58]

ugh...

[andomguy666uk]

DinoSteve wrote...

This thread again




you know in your ramblings there, you should stop and think where would Mass Effect be without Casey Hudson

Yeah, he's done a lot of good, but letting him go solo on the ending of such a huge game, that has then led to the biggest PR disaster from Bioware and EA, is more than enough to warrent him being fired to me. If he worked for me, He'd be out.

[nwj94]

Pretty sure this was confirmed fake.  I saw this a few weeks ago, when it started claiming that he wrote the whole thing out himself.  It was offically stated to be fake then.  Think you just bumped into an old article.

Problem is not the writers it was the editing department. Everyone makes mistakes, that's what they were there for.

Edit for typo

Modifié par nwj94, 09 avril 2012 - 02:35 .

[BrookerT]

andomguy666uk wrote...

So, Bioware promised us endings that reflected our choices, but all we got was a Generic A, B or C outcome, despite being promised otherwise. Why? Well, blame Casey Hudson, who decided that HE ALONE knew best how to end Mass Effect 3

http://www.gamesthir...e-stays-silent/

Bioware, you guys seriously need to take a good, hard look at yourselves, and perhaps consider doing the following:

1) Fire Casey Hudson - his actions in the past few days - offending Christians and fans on Twitter - and with the
fiasco his clear "glory hunting" has caused has done Bioware more damage than anyone else could have done without trying, and clearly warrent harsh action

2) Appologies to the fans - Needless to say, Bioware have got to draw a line in the sand, raise their hands, and say "We've screwed up, we're sorry."

3) Endings and future DLC - If Bioware are going to have any hope in salvaging this mess, They need to release new endings for all (without a 2 year time limit to being free), and should probably make sure that all future DLC for ME3 is free, as an extra "we're sorry" to the fans they've screwed over.

Sure lets fire the man who made Mas Effect, from Mass Effcet. They have denied the interview, even the person who is apparntly being interview, and it was chris priestly who made the joke about Christians. And the extended cut is adding conclusion that revolve around you choices. You were never promised varied endings. So do some reaserch, stop inciting anger at specific people and give it a friggen rest. 

Modifié par BrookerT, 09 avril 2012 - 11:25 .

[Vez04]

Talking about taking an ending too seriously/threating a BioWare dev.

DAMN.

[marrak]

I felt no joy for the ending, but this is a bit much. Honestly, I think I know what happened with Hudson, and frankly I feel for the man. I'm curious on what he's said on twitter about Christians or the fans though? (I swear, this controversy is goin to get me on twitter before the end...)

I'll make a thread on this when it's not 4:30 in the morning, but I honestly think he had the best of intentions but the delivery killed it. It's a case of wanting to do too much in too short a timespan.

[McAllyster]

Casey Hudson's responsibility as the executive producer is true. We can assume the ending is his and/or Mac Walters' creation.

However "fire Casey Hudson" is a very harsh approach. He is one of the creators of the series. We loved Mass Effect. Without him Mass Effect would not be the same.

Yes he made a mistake. A very huge mistake.

But I prefer this solution:

- Casey stays
- Casey learns from this controversy
- helps to fix the broken endings
- and after a looong holiday he comes back and helps to create a perfect, new Mass Effect trilogy.

[BrookerT]

marrak wrote...

I felt no joy for the ending, but this is a bit much. Honestly, I think I know what happened with Hudson, and frankly I feel for the man. I'm curious on what he's said on twitter about Christians or the fans though? (I swear, this controversy is goin to get me on twitter before the end...)

I'll make a thread on this when it's not 4:30 in the morning, but I honestly think he had the best of intentions but the delivery killed it. It's a case of wanting to do too much in too short a timespan.

It was Chris Priestly who made the joke, so the OP didn't even bother to research. Kinda of makes his point less valid, not that it was valid to begin with..

[sinatron]

andomguy666uk wrote...


1) Fire Casey Hudson - his actions in the past few days - offending Christians and fans on Twitter -

First of all: it doesn't seem to have been Casey Hudson.

Second: Learn to take a joke.

Third: Your post offends me. Where do you work? I'll ask them to fire you.

[andomguy666uk]

McAllyster wrote...

Casey Hudson's responsibility as the executive producer is true. We can assume the ending is his and/or Mac Walters' creation.

However "fire Casey Hudson" is a very harsh approach. He is one of the creators of the series. We loved Mass Effect. Without him Mass Effect would not be the same.

Yes he made a mistake. A very huge mistake.

But I prefer this solution:

- Casey stays
- Casey learns from this controversy
- helps to fix the broken endings
- and after a looong holiday he comes back and helps to create a perfect, new Mass Effect trilogy.

Firing him is hardly too much. I've worked with companies where we had people make less of a mess and we kicked them out because of the problems they caused. This ending has hit Bioware's PR image like a truck, and they need to show some serious backbone, rather than hiding behind "artistic imagery" and a sofa praying this all goes away.

[BrookerT]

andomguy666uk wrote...

McAllyster wrote...

Casey Hudson's responsibility as the executive producer is true. We can assume the ending is his and/or Mac Walters' creation.

However "fire Casey Hudson" is a very harsh approach. He is one of the creators of the series. We loved Mass Effect. Without him Mass Effect would not be the same.

Yes he made a mistake. A very huge mistake.

But I prefer this solution:

- Casey stays
- Casey learns from this controversy
- helps to fix the broken endings
- and after a looong holiday he comes back and helps to create a perfect, new Mass Effect trilogy.

Firing him is hardly too much. I've worked with companies where we had people make less of a mess and we kicked them out because of the problems they caused. This ending has hit Bioware's PR image like a truck, and they need to show some serious backbone, rather than hiding behind "artistic imagery" and a sofa praying this all goes away.

Firing him is too much because he made Mass Effect, he should be given a chance to make things right, gods sakes, serious case of first world problems here...

[Renew81]

DinoSteve wrote...
you know in your ramblings there, you should stop and think where would Mass Effect be without Casey Hudson

This.

[Baronesa]

No

We may disagree regarding the game... but for you to actually advocate for someone to lose his job?

Wow... you are one little piece of work...

[UrgentArchengel]

viperabyss wrote...

First of all, it is not unconfirmed if it was indeed Patrick Weekes. It could be somebody else.

And secondly, even if it was Weekes, you forgot to rope in Mac Walters, who allegedly participated in the ending making process.

And lastly, given that Mass Effect 3 was both Hudson and Walter's baby, I don't think they would screw it up intentionally. There is a story they are trying to tell us. Asking for their head on the platter is not going to make that story better.

I agree, the only problem I see was that point of leaving the whole team out of it.  Somebody from higher up should've have saw that as potential problem, and well, it is one now.

Casey, you seriously need to open up, your a** is gonna get flamed no matter what, but it's about humility and Casey needs to grow a pair and open up.  It will be better for him in the long run.

[Sparse]

andomguy666uk wrote...

Well, blame Casey Hudson

I think everybody already is.

And you may want to be careful creating threads solely to criticise bioware staff.

[xcomcmdr]

BrookerT wrote...
You were never promised varied endings.

http://masseffect.com/about/story/ wrote...

Along the way, your choices drive powerful outcomes, including
relationships with key characters, the fate of entire civilizations, and
even radically different ending scenarios.

Yeah fire Casey Hudson, so he will be replaced by an EA drone... NOT !

Modifié par xcomcmdr, 09 avril 2012 - 11:42 .

[bpzrn]

McAllyster wrote...

Casey Hudson's responsibility as the executive producer is true. We can assume the ending is his and/or Mac Walters' creation.

However "fire Casey Hudson" is a very harsh approach. He is one of the creators of the series. We loved Mass Effect. Without him Mass Effect would not be the same.

Yes he made a mistake. A very huge mistake.

But I prefer this solution:

- Casey stays
- Casey learns from this controversy
- helps to fix the broken endings
- and after a looong holiday he comes back and helps to create a perfect, new Mass Effect trilogy.

[Torrible]

BrookerT wrote...

Sure lets fire the man who made Mas Effect, from Mass Effcet. They have denied the interview, even the person who is apparntly being interview, and it was chris priestly who made the joke about Christians. And the extended cut is adding conclusion that revolve around you choices. You were never promised varied endings. So do some reaserch, stop inciting anger at specific people and give it a friggen rest. 

[Zhuinden]

Yeah, name-calling and saying explicit stuff like this has gotten people banned, I saw it with my own two eyes...
Though considering how Mac and Casey didn't show up at PAX and have commented nothing in the last 3 weeks, maybe it has already happened and they just didn't inform the public about it.

[Silpheed58]

Horse beating dead a.

[nitefyre410]

Baronesa wrote...

No

We may disagree regarding the game... but for you to actually advocate for someone to lose his job?

Wow... you are one little piece of work...

 

when they are not getting they're job done.. absoluty 

Yep I'm... Champsionship winning Coaches get fired all the time  for less than what Hudson let happen under his watch. 

So yes its clear that he can not get the job done anymore, its time  look at making a change.   

Most recent example and rather compartive would be Terry Francona  the Manager of the Boston Red Soxs... He  won to world series titles on a city  that had no won a title in over  80 years.  The Red Soxs last season durning the second half of the season imploded when they had playoff spot locked up. Much Mass Effect 3 imploded at the end...  The Front Office let him go .

Fact of the matter is Casey Hudson was lead producer... he did not get the job done in the end.    Time for a some now creative leadership. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 09 avril 2012 - 11:49 .

[-Area51-Silent]

We don't actually know whos at fault, its all speculation. And at the end of the day, I don't really care whos at fault. I simply want the product I was sold, not the one I got, because as we see by looking at what we were told to expect from the product vs. what was included, we were short changed...