123 réponses à ce sujet

[tvih]

Stardusk wrote...

Steelgrave wrote...

I just started using my Revenant X & I can't believe how awesome it is. My friend was getting pissed because I was stealing all his kills. It's definitely one of the best weapons in the game. Everybody that says the Revenant & the Collector Rifle suck just don't have a &$^%# clue. I feel sorry for all you guys!

It is awesome compared to itself. The Hornet for example is FAR beter on both Turians. Every competent player (including myself) who I know thinks it is a piece of ****. Are you modding it with the coalesced or something? Because it is beyond awful!

Indeed. Hornet is superior in every single way. In the time it takes me to kill someone with a Revenant (even with a Turian), I've already killed at least two with the Hornet no matter what the class. Not to mention the whole weight difference.

Steelgrave... you can get kills with any weapon. Doesn't make it good. Revenant, Collector Rifle, Geth Pulse Rifle... they do suck ass. And it's not an opinion, there are in fact numbers and plenty of player experiences to back that up.

[Thuggy]

After reading the OP, I decided to try a white farming run w/ my Turian sentinel wielding a Revenant IX (AP V, Scope V mods).

....wow I've never felt more useless, spent most of my time overloading shields and priming warp for the adept of the group, as my weapon damage was absolutely pathetic and left me far too vulnerable having to spend so much time out of cover to spray.

Moral of the story, stick to the Mattock, stick to the Saber, if you absolutely must use an assault rifle.

[vas1444]

I duno, I keep trying to like revenant (I have it at X) but just somehow it's not at all satisfying to use. Too much randomness to it to pull off headshots. And spraying and praying isn't fun to me .. I haven't tried it with a scope though, so I guess I'll give that a shot.

On the subject of soldier, I actually find soldier a lot more satisfying to play than an AA. I roll with a saber IV on the human (bf3) soldier and it's an incredibly satisfying gun to use. How well you do is going to depend how many headshots you can do and how quickly you can pull them off. AA gameplay is just ability spam without much aiming and tbh it seems a lot easier to survive as an AA on gold then as a soldier .. simply because you can stay in cover for a much higher percentage of time.

[stribies]

tvih wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Steelgrave wrote...

I just started using my Revenant X & I can't believe how awesome it is. My friend was getting pissed because I was stealing all his kills. It's definitely one of the best weapons in the game. Everybody that says the Revenant & the Collector Rifle suck just don't have a &$^%# clue. I feel sorry for all you guys!

It is awesome compared to itself. The Hornet for example is FAR beter on both Turians. Every competent player (including myself) who I know thinks it is a piece of ****. Are you modding it with the coalesced or something? Because it is beyond awful!

Indeed. Hornet is superior in every single way. In the time it takes me to kill someone with a Revenant (even with a Turian), I've already killed at least two with the Hornet no matter what the class. Not to mention the whole weight difference.

Steelgrave... you can get kills with any weapon. Doesn't make it good. Revenant, Collector Rifle, Geth Pulse Rifle... they do suck ass. And it's not an opinion, there are in fact numbers and plenty of player experiences to back that up.

Gotta admit, the hornet is amazing. Now if only that ultralight mod worked...

[BloodClaw95]

My friend tried it with his Soldier, said it was inaccurate and had a terrible recoil.

He's pretty new, so he doesn't have a scope mod or even a stability dampener.

[Cloaking_Thane]

Atheosis wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

Lionheartwolf wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

vonSlash wrote...

A Revenant X with Barrel/AP mods dishes out some excellent damage on a non-Turian, too.

No it doesn't because you're sacrificing power usage for Weapon damage.

Powers> 95% of weapons in this game, Rev X included.

Now don't get me wrong its halfway decent and on turian you can still get 170% CD, but  overall its not that great

thats the reason why people get shoehorned into AA, SI, or SE. the Revenant is just fine on other classes. you dont have to be a power user to be a powerhouse (no pun intended) it works great on soldier class in general and it wouldnt be the first time i out preformed a power spammer with that combo. hell i have out preformed biotic users on without using a single ability. (even on gold, with an avenger) bullets to the dome are much more effective then people give it credit for.

im not saying biotics dont have their place but to suggest that they are better all around does a bigger diservice than anything.

If you play with a good group of 4 the Soldier will never be first. This is just a fact i'm sorry. I've also been forst on gold with every class, but the times I was a soldier or Krogan Sentinal etc I was playing with...not very good gold players

Don't make absolute statements with nothing to back them up.  Soldier can come in first in points with certain builds and loadouts, even on "good teams".  

I backed it up with my GT and an open offer

[Gabigool]

I actually like it a lot but agree that from a number crunching standpoint it isn't as effective as most other guns as it's too difficult to string together headshots.

IMO it's perfectly fine for silver, even on a human soldier, against reapers for example where you really don't have to sweat the precision as much.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

I love revnant... only as a turian soldier
others use mattock with claymore

[Mazandus]

Atheosis wrote...

The Saber, Mattock, and Vindicator are actually pretty damn solid.

I wish the same could be said for the Pheaston, Revenant, Geth Pulse Rifle, Locust, Tempest...

[cruc1al]

Even have read that the recoil mod shouldn't even be used because something about going into negatives with accuracy. *shrug*

Yeah, that happens on my Turian Soldier. It's basically >100% stability.

BTW: mass effect 3 update in progress

[cruc1al]

Mazandus wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

The Saber, Mattock, and Vindicator are actually pretty damn solid.

I wish the same could be said for the Pheaston, Revenant, Geth Pulse Rifle, Locust, Tempest...

Phaeston>vindicator. Slightly lower DPS but it's more accurate, has a higher clip and capacity, and since it's full auto it benefits more from turian marksman.

Modifié par cruc1al, 09 avril 2012 - 09:05 .

[Mazandus]

squidney2k1 wrote...

Recoil isn't the problem.....it's the random Spread of the weapon. Rounds do not always go where the reticle is, and that makes it very annoying and less useful.

I wonder how much the random spread of each of the automatic's is contributing to their suckiness. It is certainly a factor, but then I remember the Geth Pulse Rifle and I'm again left scratching my head.

Modifié par Mazandus, 09 avril 2012 - 09:05 .

[Hellgate Strife]

I find it works fine even on gold but only an infiltrator.

Im a good shot with a sniper but after a while the whole 1 shot your dead thing got old as did listening to allies whine that im not helping when they 1 man rush a horde of enemies inside on gold and then die and say i should of covered them by shooting through the side of the building.

Now give me a revenant and my cloak ill come up behind a group of mobs get close and mow down 3-4 standard mobs with 1 clip because of the initial damage boost if you work fast you can drop 1 and wound a second in short time and at the kinda close range i love headshots are cake and aslong as im careful to stay close to cover to duck for 2 seconds to reload ive never had an issue with it.

I roll with a pure revenant team on sp so once i got it on mp i started using it and havnt stopped until today when i made a little assasin build with a paladin and a tempest but thats just for playing on bronze.

Soldier does suck royally given that its almost a pure weapons char and has no real weapons bonus over half the other chars.

[cruc1al]

Mazandus wrote...

squidney2k1 wrote...

Recoil isn't the problem.....it's the random Spread of the weapon. Rounds do not always go where the reticle is, and that makes it very annoying and less useful.

I wonder how much the random spread of each of the automatic's is contributing to their suckiness. It is certainly a factor.

A lot. If you had a pinpoint accurate weapon it'd be among the best in the game because it would remove all luck and randomness, instead it would purely reflect your aiming skill. People with good hitscan tracking aim would dominate with it, you could potentially get >50% headshots at any range if you were really good.

[RGFrog]

Maybe it was the accuracy bug that I didn't know about before now, but with my Turrian using marksman I found the Rev with stab and ammo did less damage per clip than my GPR with stab and ammo.

Plus the GPR was just a stream of hurt at the head with none of the spread the Rev had. And since the fire rate was so high, it more than made up for the difference in damage.

Now, if the Rev's damage was consistent with it's weight cost...

[Mazandus]

cruc1al wrote...

Mazandus wrote...

squidney2k1 wrote...

Recoil isn't the problem.....it's the random Spread of the weapon. Rounds do not always go where the reticle is, and that makes it very annoying and less useful.

I wonder how much the random spread of each of the automatic's is contributing to their suckiness. It is certainly a factor.

A lot. If you had a pinpoint accurate weapon it'd be among the best in the game because it would remove all luck and randomness, instead it would purely reflect your aiming skill. People with good hitscan tracking aim would dominate with it, you could potentially get >50% headshots at any range if you were really good.

Right, which is another reason why we all agree sniper's and heavy pistols are the best weapons in the game...

[Highlord Heian]

Things dying left and right is good and all, but I prefer to be killing the things in the center where I'm aiming. It's good on a Turian, but it's so hit or miss any other way that it's almost unusable.

[KainD]

Revenant is not bad, but there are better weapons.

[Mazandus]

Didn't BF3 try a truly random spread for their guns back in the alpha or something and all the developers and testers agreed it was a horrible idea? This might be the problem here in ME3. Recoil + random spread = pea shooter air rifle.

[AndanteInBlue]

If it's godly, it's a drunk, mad, wrathful sort of god with poor eyesight and the hand-eye coordination of senile elcor.

[Mievain]

Turian Soldier marksman specced for accuracy not firerate, firing mainly from cover or hipfire closequarters, using either scope+barrel with ap ammo or scope+pierce. (specced for max stability instead of reduced AR weight)

With marksman on and using scope I can do mainly headshots with medium range easily, and close quarters I just hipfire aiming towards face and they die fast, even phantons try to cloak away before they can kill you with their palmpistol.

I was playing silver cerberus then gold reapers, worked fine on both (though my friend was playing salarian engi and his energy drain helps alot, but its co-op teamplay is advised).

I've tried other ways of playing turian soldier and I've found revenant gunning with enough precision for headshots medium range, all hits long range to be fun and effective (skipped conc. shot.)

edit. not saying its uber, just that it works even on gold and was nice chance to gamestyle (usually I play infli or powerspammers)

Modifié par Mievain, 09 avril 2012 - 09:31 .

[Stardusk]

tvih wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Steelgrave wrote...

I just started using my Revenant X & I can't believe how awesome it is. My friend was getting pissed because I was stealing all his kills. It's definitely one of the best weapons in the game. Everybody that says the Revenant & the Collector Rifle suck just don't have a &$^%# clue. I feel sorry for all you guys!

It is awesome compared to itself. The Hornet for example is FAR beter on both Turians. Every competent player (including myself) who I know thinks it is a piece of ****. Are you modding it with the coalesced or something? Because it is beyond awful!

Indeed. Hornet is superior in every single way. In the time it takes me to kill someone with a Revenant (even with a Turian), I've already killed at least two with the Hornet no matter what the class. Not to mention the whole weight difference.

Steelgrave... you can get kills with any weapon. Doesn't make it good. Revenant, Collector Rifle, Geth Pulse Rifle... they do suck ass. And it's not an opinion, there are in fact numbers and plenty of player experiences to back that up.

For the Turian Sentinel the Hornet is king. Maxed out weapon damage and stability, still have a 200% CD so tech explosion every 1.85 seconds and overload just under 3. All the while firing Hornet, killing enemies in seconds with a reload speed of less than half a second. And this guy is talking about the Revenant. He must be playing a different game.

[cruc1al]

How do you do a tech explosion every 1.85 seconds...?

[Stardusk]

stribies wrote...

tvih wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Steelgrave wrote...

I just started using my Revenant X & I can't believe how awesome it is. My friend was getting pissed because I was stealing all his kills. It's definitely one of the best weapons in the game. Everybody that says the Revenant & the Collector Rifle suck just don't have a &$^%# clue. I feel sorry for all you guys!

It is awesome compared to itself. The Hornet for example is FAR beter on both Turians. Every competent player (including myself) who I know thinks it is a piece of ****. Are you modding it with the coalesced or something? Because it is beyond awful!

Heat Sink and Damage Mod...only weapon you need.

Indeed. Hornet is superior in every single way. In the time it takes me to kill someone with a Revenant (even with a Turian), I've already killed at least two with the Hornet no matter what the class. Not to mention the whole weight difference.

Steelgrave... you can get kills with any weapon. Doesn't make it good. Revenant, Collector Rifle, Geth Pulse Rifle... they do suck ass. And it's not an opinion, there are in fact numbers and plenty of player experiences to back that up.

Gotta admit, the hornet is amazing. Now if only that ultralight mod worked...

Heat Sink and Damage Mod...only weapon you need.

[Stardusk]

cruc1al wrote...

How do you do a tech explosion every 1.85 seconds...?

Tech Armor Detonation...