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[cruc1al]

Stardusk wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

How do you do a tech explosion every 1.85 seconds...?

Tech Armor Detonation...

Ah. Thought you meant tech burst.

Modifié par cruc1al, 09 avril 2012 - 09:50 .

[Stardusk]

RGFrog wrote...

Maybe it was the accuracy bug that I didn't know about before now, but with my Turrian using marksman I found the Rev with stab and ammo did less damage per clip than my GPR with stab and ammo.

Plus the GPR was just a stream of hurt at the head with none of the spread the Rev had. And since the fire rate was so high, it more than made up for the difference in damage.

Now, if the Rev's damage was consistent with it's weight cost...

I can kill enemies with the Hornet AT LEAST 4x faster than with the Revenant.

[Adhal]

Dasher1010 wrote...

I used a Revenant 2 with a Turian Soldier with a stability mod and extended clip. It still took half a clip to kill a normal enemy on Silver.

Really cuz on silver with a rev 2 using ex. barrel, and AP mod I have downed a brute in 1 full clip. Change mods and work on aim.

[Lionheartwolf]

Adhal wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

I used a Revenant 2 with a Turian Soldier with a stability mod and extended clip. It still took half a clip to kill a normal enemy on Silver.

Really cuz on silver with a rev 2 using ex. barrel, and AP mod I have downed a brute in 1 full clip. Change mods and work on aim.

there is a possibility that both these statements are right.(though half a clip is an exaggeration) i cant go back and check since my mods are at V and my revenant is at 10 but not having the extended barrel or AP mod on it will hurt it a lot in damage.

[DennyHoffmann]

Easily one of the few AR worth using. I use it with my Turian Sentinel and it rocks, but people say that it's even more powerfull in the hands of a Turian Soldier due to Marksman. Going for a try sometime.

[suprarj]

I prefer my revenant X over my bw1 on the infiltrator... you can get way more high dps shots with the rev... I own everything, phantoms, atlas, mail slot guardians just by sheer probability - one of them bullets gonna pop that slot son!

[Adhal]

Lionheartwolf wrote...

Adhal wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

I used a Revenant 2 with a Turian Soldier with a stability mod and extended clip. It still took half a clip to kill a normal enemy on Silver.

Really cuz on silver with a rev 2 using ex. barrel, and AP mod I have downed a brute in 1 full clip. Change mods and work on aim.

there is a possibility that both these statements are right.(though half a clip is an exaggeration) i cant go back and check since my mods are at V and my revenant is at 10 but not having the extended barrel or AP mod on it will hurt it a lot in damage.

On gold I'd prefer a more accurate weapon, but for silver farming a turian soldier with the rev and the damage and ap attachments mows everything down. Sit and a choke point and watch the bodies pile up. Very good crowd supression.

But yeah thats on silver, sure its viable on gold but would much rather us an infiltrator than a soldier. Gotta break the cycle and change it up time to time though

[Chief Commander]

I have it on lvl 10 and find it absolutely useless, especially on gold.

[RGFrog]

Stardusk wrote...

RGFrog wrote...

Maybe it was the accuracy bug that I didn't know about before now, but with my Turrian using marksman I found the Rev with stab and ammo did less damage per clip than my GPR with stab and ammo.

Plus the GPR was just a stream of hurt at the head with none of the spread the Rev had. And since the fire rate was so high, it more than made up for the difference in damage.

Now, if the Rev's damage was consistent with it's weight cost...

I can kill enemies with the Hornet AT LEAST 4x faster than with the Revenant.

Will have to give that a try... oh wait, all i have is a hurricane 2... Is it possible the Tur. Soldier could make that weapon worth anything?

[KodiakAsh]

It's funny, every time there's a thread about the Revenant the SMG people start chiming in like they discovered the holy grail of awesome because they can do well with a Turian Soldier and X weapon on Bronze/Silver. SMG's are garbage on Gold setting. The only case in which they are good requires you to use an Armor Piercing consumable. The same goes for SMG like Rifles like the Avenger and Geth Pulse Rifle.

Here's a tip: Take any gun in the game and you can do well on Bronze and Silver. It's like discussing whether or not a metal pipe is more effective than a baseball bat at beating a pinata.

[Sacrificial Bias]

The Revenant is a tricky one. I only have it at II, but I notice while the recoil isn't quite as bad unless you chase down an enemy with it while firing, the spread easily makes it shotgun range. Only thing worth noting(to me) is that it strips shields off an Atlas in seconds. Aside from that, the spread is utterly horrible at longer ranges. GPR was even worse, though I only have it at I. While there was no recoil, spread is still pretty bad. I'm wondering if taking the accuracy path with Marksman would help with the spread problem any on these rifles, because thus far the Mattock is still uncontested as my most effective AR.

[HellishFiend]

I find the Revenant to be a very versatile weapon in the hands of a Turian. It deals long range DPS that rivals that of a good heavy pistol when fired in short bursts, and heavy sustained DPS at close to mid range when fired on full auto. In addition, thanks to its rapid fire, it makes very effective use of ammo mods, should you use any. You can scope it to make it lean more towards long range encounters, or damage mod it to lean more towards short/mid range. For a jack of all trades class like the Turian Sentinel, a versatile weapon like the Revenant makes a lot of sense to use.

[N7 Banshee Bait]

KodiakAsh wrote...

It's funny, every time there's a thread about the Revenant the SMG people start chiming in like they discovered the holy grail of awesome because they can do well with a Turian Soldier and X weapon on Bronze/Silver. SMG's are garbage on Gold setting. The only case in which they are good requires you to use an Armor Piercing consumable. The same goes for SMG like Rifles like the Avenger and Geth Pulse Rifle.

Here's a tip: Take any gun in the game and you can do well on Bronze and Silver. It's like discussing whether or not a metal pipe is more effective than a baseball bat at beating a pinata.

  So basically what you're saying is that nobody is allowed to talk about bronze or silver. Everything has to be about gold at all times.  We should all just forget bronze & silver even exist.  That's the basic idea behind most comments on this site.  As soon as anybody mentions anything about the game it's automatically all about gold.

TO HELL WITH GOLD!   GOLD SUCKS!  My Revenant X is a load of fun on bronze! I play video games to have a good time, not to prove something to a bunch of unknown user names on some stupid web forum.

[Stardusk]

KodiakAsh wrote...

It's funny, every time there's a thread about the Revenant the SMG people start chiming in like they discovered the holy grail of awesome because they can do well with a Turian Soldier and X weapon on Bronze/Silver. SMG's are garbage on Gold setting. The only case in which they are good requires you to use an Armor Piercing consumable. The same goes for SMG like Rifles like the Avenger and Geth Pulse Rifle.

Here's a tip: Take any gun in the game and you can do well on Bronze and Silver. It's like discussing whether or not a metal pipe is more effective than a baseball bat at beating a pinata.

The Hornet is very effective on Gold. Fantastic on a Turian and very good on everyone else, e.g. Drell Vanguard.

[Stardusk]

RGFrog wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

RGFrog wrote...

Maybe it was the accuracy bug that I didn't know about before now, but with my Turrian using marksman I found the Rev with stab and ammo did less damage per clip than my GPR with stab and ammo.

Plus the GPR was just a stream of hurt at the head with none of the spread the Rev had. And since the fire rate was so high, it more than made up for the difference in damage.

Now, if the Rev's damage was consistent with it's weight cost...

I can kill enemies with the Hornet AT LEAST 4x faster than with the Revenant.

Will have to give that a try... oh wait, all i have is a hurricane 2... Is it possible the Tur. Soldier could make that weapon worth anything?

In theory, sure. Honestly, Marksman is not worth the bang for the
buck and I would take the Sentinel over the Soldier any day and you
still get 55% weapon stability. Hurricane could still be good though,
maybe in that case a pistol and SMG (Hurricane) for up close. How do you have a Hurricane 2 anyway?

[Tony208]

It ain't half bad on the other soldiers with Adrenaline Rush. lol at taking out more than half of an Atlas before needing to reload

[cruc1al]

Stardusk wrote...

In theory, sure. Honestly, Marksman is not worth the bang for the
buck and I would take the Sentinel over the Soldier any day and you
still get 55% weapon stability.

I think the Soldier is better against heavy targets. Combine the 20% increased vulnerability from prox mine with the increased damage output from marksman and I'd say it beats sentinel for anti-heavy duty. But Sentinel is pretty much better for everything else

Modifié par cruc1al, 10 avril 2012 - 05:39 .

[Stardusk]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Anyone who talks **** about the Revenant, doesn't know how to use the gun.

Period.

Rev X is one of the most disgustingly powerful weapons in the game.
The point is not to outright kill an enemy a mid-range. The point is that it chews through barriers and shields and you can drop whole groups into the health range to AoE them.

No one competent agrees about this. The Revenant is terrible compared to other weapons. Like I said, the Hornet is better in just about EVERY way. It chews through barriers and shields MUCH faster and kills MUCH faster.

[tutzdes]

I'd prefer tempest with AP ammo hence it has less spread, more accurate and lightweight, which allow to use sniper ability more often. While not using ammo Revenant is on par with the best SMG's as AP mod is not available for them.

The most prominent thing, which sometimes just forces me to use Revenant is his fabulous "I! CAN'T HEAR! YOU!" feature.

[CrashFu]

There are really only a couple of weapons in the game that are actually -terrible-.

They are the Incisor and the Scorpion.

With pretty much any other weapon, it's only "a bad weapon" if the player doesn't know how to use it.

Revenant does enough damage that it frequently staggers smaller enemies to the point they can't effectively fight back if you're laying it on them, and it's the only -machine gun- (read, machine gun, not assault rifle) that does enough damage to really be used at all against armor (though yes, appropriate ammo or mods are still important in those regards)

Yes, it's pretty much a weapon for soldiers, be they turian or human.. With turian, max out the accuracy and fire rate bonuses and just shred some heads. Hip-fire. There's no kickback when hip-firing and if you fire from cover with Marksman's accuracy boost, it'll be more than accurate enough to mow things down at any range. With human, get those crazy damage bonuses and either chew things up at shotgun range or go scopes, stabilizers, and burst firing.

Additionally, if you're playing a particularly defense-heavy build in any particular class (so long as you've got a ton of shields and some damage reduction) you can use the revenant mainly for pinning things down with suppressive fire; a defensively built character won't have the overwhelming offensive power of the soldiers but you'll get to maintain fire for longer before you need to recharge your own shields.

And before anyone asks, yes I've played gold. In fact I just successfully completed three separate games on gold difficulty... Not with the Revenant, yet, mind you. With the hornet. Which people also say is a worthless gun. But I've noticed that people severely overstate the difficulty of Gold. There's more elites on the field at once than on silver.. and that's about the only difference. And the revenant is good at mowing down elites, especially with a good armor piercing mod or ammo.

[ImperatorMortis]

Wow people are actually still posting in here.

[HolyAvenger]

Any weapon that depends on high RoF is bad because you have to be generally out of cover to use it meaning you're taking damage. Your DPS slows down a lot because of that need for sustained firing.

[Korolen]

For a while I tried to make the revenant work. Then I took the same soldier build I'd been using with the revvy, switched to a carnifex, and immediately did better. While the revvy can be fun to use, and I certainly do enjoy using it on occasion, don't try and pretend that the weapons are balanced or that the revvy is useful on a gold speedrun.