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[Quxorda]

eldrjth wrote...

Arkley wrote...

Can I ask what level your Claymore, barrel and choke mods are? I'm genuinely curious now, because I can't tell if you're actually getting bad results with it, if you just can't aim it properly, or if you're just lying to prop up your point.

Before you get all defensive, I'm not assuming that any of those are true, I'm wondering which of them is.

 youre obviously being defensive here. I can outscore you easily noob. I had a claymore X for a long while. I can aim noob. not like a shotgun user. I topscore in almost every match. I can hit at those ranges im talking about with a unscoped carnifex. a shotgun cant headshot at those ranges. who are you fooling ffs. I dont even feel like continuing the conversasion if you dont understand the fact that a claymore doesnt head shot from where im talking about but a sniper does. if I get a headshot they should die, they dont. nothing else needs to be factored into the calculation. think about it for a sec. the spread youre getting is about 2 times the height of the enemy at that range. how the fk are you suppose to get a HS? 

fmd. this is why you should ban shotguns users. fking noobs

[NecroticTissues]

eldrjth wrote...

 youre obviously being defensive here. I can outscore you easily noob. I had a claymore X for a long while. I can aim noob. not like a shotgun user. I topscore in almost every match. I can hit at those ranges im talking about with a unscoped carnifex. a shotgun cant headshot at those ranges. who are you fooling ffs. I dont even feel like continuing the conversasion if you dont understand the fact that a claymore doesnt head shot from where im talking about but a sniper does. if I get a headshot they should die, they dont. nothing else needs to be factored into the calculation. think about it for a sec. the spread youre getting is about 2 times the height of the enemy at that range. how the fk are you suppose to get a HS? 

fmd. this is why you should ban shotguns users. fking noobs

Easily provoked are we? Always amusing to see people like you getting so worked up.

Claymore infiltrator is a fun setup to use and can be effective if you know how to play it. Anyway, it's a bonus to not have to play with the people who kick you, especially if they're inclined to rage and argue on the internet about a game. 

[RGFrog]

There's a reload cancel on the claymore... i'm jelly. Please share?!?!

Modifié par RGFrog, 10 avril 2012 - 12:33 .

[Elecbender]

RGFrog wrote...

There's a reload cancel on the claymore... i'm jelly. Please share?!?!

As soon as you see the 1 counter, press the medi-gel button for revive. Actually it works with any weapon, but it benefits those with reloads over 2.5 seconds.

Modifié par Elecbender, 10 avril 2012 - 12:39 .

[curly haired boy]

i love claymore on my human infiltrator. it's great to bounce up to a phantom and blow her head away.

[KainD]

Claymore is actually severely inferior to both GPS and Graal, and NOT because they can shoot at great distances, I shoot both GPS and Graal at point blank, but because Graal and GPS have more shots in ammo and shoot pretty fast, and because the charged shot doesn't brake cloak. Claymore kills one enemy each cloak, Graal and GPS kill atleast 2 or 3 enemies that are not even standing near each other in one cloak.

[RGFrog]

Elecbender wrote...

RGFrog wrote...

There's a reload cancel on the claymore... i'm jelly. Please share?!?!

As soon as you see the 1 counter, press the medi-gel button for revive. Actually it works with any weapon, but it benefits those with reloads over 2.5 seconds.

Thanks... been using a variant of that for my sniper reloads. Just didn't put two and two together.

Sadly, i tried my hand as SI claymore and was not that great

[sy7ar]

KainD wrote...

Claymore is actually severely inferior to both GPS and Graal, and NOT because they can shoot at great distances, I shoot both GPS and Graal at point blank, but because Graal and GPS have more shots in ammo and shoot pretty fast, and because the charged shot doesn't brake cloak. Claymore kills one enemy each cloak, Graal and GPS kill atleast 2 or 3 enemies that are not even standing near each other in one cloak.

Yeah, also lighter, but it feels good to one shot ravager with claymore ;D

[eldrjth]

NecroticTissues wrote...

Easily provoked are we? Always amusing to see people like you getting so worked up.

Claymore infiltrator is a fun setup to use and can be effective if you know how to play it. Anyway, it's a bonus to not have to play with the people who kick you, especially if they're inclined to rage and argue on the internet about a game. 

when ever I have a claymore infil in the group the team is lacking defensively somewhere I find. that is the trend. the conclusion ive come to is they dont kill mobs at a distance fast enough (thin out the enemy numbers before they reach you, and they have a tendancy to leave the group). in the sniper hole in firebase dagger the OP refers to you cant get consistent kills on troopers as they spawn on the far left, or directly in front. you can only get consistent kill shots once they are almost walking down the platform in front or into the corridor. in a team match you might have multiple SI casting ED it mask the fact that your weapon lacks punch at that range on its own. log into a game on your own and try to kill units in the spawn area im talking about. I can kill effectively with just me and the valiant. I dont even need to cast ED to kill. the claymore infil will unlikely fire a one-hit kill shot. a GPS user typically score better in a round too.

Modifié par eldrjth, 10 avril 2012 - 05:01 .

[Hokochu]

I prefer the Wraith personally.

[We Tigers]

KainD wrote...

Claymore is actually severely inferior to both GPS and Graal, and NOT because they can shoot at great distances, I shoot both GPS and Graal at point blank, but because Graal and GPS have more shots in ammo and shoot pretty fast, and because the charged shot doesn't brake cloak. Claymore kills one enemy each cloak, Graal and GPS kill atleast 2 or 3 enemies that are not even standing near each other in one cloak.

I played with the Claymore and GPS quite a bit today, and the claymore just suited my style a bit more.  The charge-then-cloak mechanic of the GPS is a little awkward if you're always dodging and dashing around.  I do agree that the extra ammo in the GPS/Graal is a huge boon if your first shot doesn't finish the target.

[eldrjth]

Arkley wrote...
 It boggles my mind to see it. It's like seeing a four year old argue with a mechanic about how best to repair an engine.

hey. noob. wheres the video I asked for, of you killing troopers from the sniper perch in FB:Dagger. Do I have to post one to disprove you. idiot. for the sake of the diety you believe in stfu next time.

[eldrjth]

im uploading 2 videos now comparing the valiant to the claymore in taking out 2 identical units in the identical location will be done in 1hr.

[Lambda Diamond]

marshalleck wrote...

eldrjth wrote...

you leave the main group and try to gun down stuff that wouldve died to sniper fire. you dont cover your teams blind spots and dont deal dmg at range. you also tend to die in isolated locations that are hard to reach and become swarmed with enemies. you also wont outscore a decent sniper and are severely hindered against some units.

Well, from this you'd think it's impossible to clear a gold match without a sniper. 

Sniper is very useful I run Inf. Salarian Sniper since Demo and its very useful. Can take out alot of units and deal 50-75% damage to defences such as barrier and armour on gold.

[Naoe]

eldrjth wrote...
you leave the main group and try to gun down stuff that wouldve died to sniper fire. you dont cover your teams blind spots and dont deal dmg at range. you also tend to die in isolated locations that are hard to reach and become swarmed with enemies. you also wont outscore a decent sniper and are severely hindered against some units.

This. I've never seen a shotgun inf outperform a mediocre sniper.

[KainD]

We Tigers wrote...

KainD wrote...

Claymore is actually severely inferior to both GPS and Graal, and NOT because they can shoot at great distances, I shoot both GPS and Graal at point blank, but because Graal and GPS have more shots in ammo and shoot pretty fast, and because the charged shot doesn't brake cloak. Claymore kills one enemy each cloak, Graal and GPS kill atleast 2 or 3 enemies that are not even standing near each other in one cloak.

I played with the Claymore and GPS quite a bit today, and the claymore just suited my style a bit more.  The charge-then-cloak mechanic of the GPS is a little awkward if you're always dodging and dashing around.  I do agree that the extra ammo in the GPS/Graal is a huge boon if your first shot doesn't finish the target.

Wait, how does dashing and dodging get in the way of charging? You can start the charge while dashing or sprinting.

[PaperAlien]

SNIPER INFILTRATOR IS THE ONLY RIGHT WAY TO PLAY INFILTRATOR, SCRUB!

[KainD]

PaperAlien wrote...

SNIPER INFILTRATOR IS THE ONLY RIGHT WAY TO PLAY INFILTRATOR, SCRUB!

Haha, good one. 

[peddroelm]

Grimy Bunyip wrote...

someone told me claymore gets a 2x damage buff within 4 meters, is this true?
seems odd to me.

It was almost true in ME2 (because of 3d model size the bonus was a bit less ) for all weapons except sniper rifles ...Range to target doesn't affect weapon damage in  ME3 

Modifié par peddroelmz, 10 avril 2012 - 07:57 .

[seek37]

, i've been in a few groups where the shotgun infiltrator ran off and did some dumb crap, but i've seen almost every other class do it too, and usually less successfully since they dont have a cloak. so that argument is illogical. I play with a claymore/Sal. infiltrator and usually cover the flanks and behind my team so things don't surprise us. If I see that the main team is getting overwhelmed i go back up and support them, but with my damage output usually I don't need much help from the team, and can solo most bosses will little to no problems (banshee excluded since they advance so fast and cause you to retreat).
and its usually me that goes back and saves everyone else if we start wiping (usually). I do stray off some times but only with good reason, ie: if i c an objective that is too far for my team but i can get with a cloak. so ya i don't see peoples point in discriminating lol

[seek37]

KainD wrote...

Claymore is actually severely inferior to both GPS and Graal, and NOT because they can shoot at great distances, I shoot both GPS and Graal at point blank, but because Graal and GPS have more shots in ammo and shoot pretty fast, and because the charged shot doesn't brake cloak. Claymore kills one enemy each cloak, Graal and GPS kill atleast 2 or 3 enemies that are not even standing near each other in one cloak.

I don't disagree with you, but it depends on the situation a bit. GPS and grall require you to charge your shot for max damage, which is more than the claymore yes, but the time it takes to charge the gun to max is time with the claymore you can probably pop off 2 shots using the reload cancel. i've experimented with all three and the burst damage off the grall and GPS are satisfying beyond words lol but I like the consistency of the claymore over the others. just a matter of opinion for me.

[eldrjth]

here are two short vids without audio showing the typical killing speed of both weapons. the location is the sniper hole in FB:dagger, enemy is geth, in gold difficulty:-

Claymore X


Valiant I


as you can see the valiant kills troopers with one shot from there. the claymore doesnt. I also fired deliberately with the claymore when 2 enemies were close together to max dmg potential. I killed 3 troopers before the lone hunter attacked me with the valiant but could only kill 2 with the claymore.

Modifié par eldrjth, 10 avril 2012 - 08:54 .

[Rhaina]

eldrjth wrote...

here are two short vids without audio showing the typical killing speed of both weapons. the location is the sniper hole in FB:white, enemy is geth, in gold difficulty:-

Claymore X


Valiant I


as you can see the valiant kills troopers with one shot from there. the claymore doesnt. I also fired deliberately with the claymore when 2 enemies were close together to max dmg potential. I killed 3 troopers before the lone hunter attacked me with the valiant but could only kill 2 with the claymore.

I'm glad you took the time to do this, so I could laugh.

[eldrjth]

^ wtf are you on about?