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Why the Hate for Salarian Claymore Infiltrator?


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use my QI with a Claymore X (Dmg V and Shredder V) on FB White gold geth runs all the time, I tend to live at the bottem of the stairwell near the ammo box killing everything that walks down it.

sab with exploding upgrade turns geth into bombs multikills everywhere.

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eldrjth wrote...

you leave the main group and try to gun down stuff that wouldve died to sniper fire. you dont cover your teams blind spots and dont deal dmg at range. you also tend to die in isolated locations that are hard to reach and become swarmed with enemies. you also wont outscore a decent sniper and are severely hindered against some units.


And you know this because you have played with him... right?

No. You are just assuming, which just makes you an ass.

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Rhaina wrote...

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I meant dagger. what of it already?

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Katana X 60.2
Eviscerator X 74.9
Wraith X 111.9
Claymore X 206
Grall X 100
Geth Plasma X 892.7


90% WD cloak
25% WD barrel add-on V
~20% WD passive (varries)
20% WD HS perk
I did not factor the Proximity mine debuff in the calculations but it should add 20% WD to affected targets


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Katana X 60.2 (5 shot clip - only 3 with cloak bonus ?)

Head Shot shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)

60.2 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 383.77500 (383.77500 * 8 = 3070.2) Katana can be lethal on gold with Head Shots

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Eviscerator X 74.9 (3 shot clip - only 2? with cloak)

Body shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)

74.9 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2) = 176.01500 (176.01500 * 8 = 1408.12) Will not kill in one body cloaked hit on gold without consumables (works on silver)

Head Shot shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)

74.9 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 477.4875 (477.4875 * 8 = 3819.9) Aim a few pellets to the head and it becomes lethal on gold

KATANA might be BETTER (lighter, fires faster, bigger clip - Eviscerator is elegedly a bit more accurate at range - important when going for head shots)

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Wraith X 111.9 (2 shot clip - 2 shots with cloak bonus)


Body shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)
111.9 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2) = 262.965 (262.96500 * 8 = 2103.72) Geth Hunter and Pyro have more shield on gold - will need HS ...

Head Shot shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)
111.9 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 713.3625 (713.3625 * 8 = 5706.9) (can drop most protected non boss enemies with 1 HS)

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Claymore X 206 (1 shot clip - 2 shots with cloak bonus with reload trick ?)

Body Shot WITHOUT CLOAK (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)

206 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2) = 298.7 (298.7 * 8 = 2389.6) (1 body hit kill non protected mooks on gold, removes geth hunter shield)

Head Shot WITHOUT CLOAK (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)

206 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 849.75 (849.75 * 8 = 6798) (1 HS hit kills Geth Hunters and Pyros without cloak ?)

Body shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)

206 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2) = 484.1 (484.1 * 8 = 3872.8)

Head Shot shot from cloak

206 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.2 + 0.9) * 2.5 = 1313.25 (1313.25 * 8 = 10506)

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Graal X (hard to get) 100 (3 shot clip - can fire one charged + 2 uncharged hit with cloak bonus ?)

Uncharged Body shot from cloak (Damage vs health, armor ,shield or barrier

100 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.9) = 235 (235 * 6 = 1410 - will not kill on gold with body shots withot consumables // proximity mine)

Charged Body shot from cloak (Damage vs health, armor ,shield or barrier)

100 * 2 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.9) = 470 (470 * 6 = 2820) (will need HS for protected foes)

Uncharged head shot from cloak (Damage vs health, armor ,shield or barrier

100 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.9 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 637.5 (637.5 * 6 = 3825) { gold geth hunter & pyro will need charged HS - marauder//centurion should drop }

Charged head shot from cloak (Damage vs health, armor ,shield or barrier)

100 * 2 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.9 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 1275 (1275 * 6 = 7650)

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Geth Plasma Shotgun X (hard to get 892.7)


MAX Charged Cloaked Shot
892.7 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2) = 3356.552

MAX Charged uncloaked shot
892.7 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2) = 2071.064


Snap Cloaked Shot
~892.7 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2) * 0.45 = ~1510.4484 (no kill without consumables // a bit of charge up time)

#156
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No. You are just assuming, which just makes you an ass.


in reference to shotgun infiltrators generally. not really attacking him but he could take it that way too, since thats my typical exerience from countless hours playing this game, in public matches.

Modifié par eldrjth, 10 avril 2012 - 09:23 .


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eldrjth wrote...

Rhaina wrote...

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I meant dagger. what of it already?


You mean your hilariously incomplete comparison of the weapons in a single situation?

Or do you mean your godlike sniping ability.  Great first shot btw.

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Claymore sniping. lol

How do I record a video like that btw?

Modifié par KainD, 10 avril 2012 - 09:00 .


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^ units sometimes have spawn immunity. are you incredibly thick headed idiot?

first shot was on target and registered no dmg. it happens often when a unit spawns. I showed it against the WEAKEST unit so you can assume the claymore would have MORE difficulty against shielded targets.

Modifié par eldrjth, 10 avril 2012 - 09:01 .


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eldrjth wrote...

^ units sometimes have spawn immunity. are you incredibly thick headed idiot?


Maybe you should rewatch your own video.

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Guys, how do I record a video? =)

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^ Rhaina youre a dumbarse just leave the thread. its called spawn immunity. I regularly do not get dmg as soon as a unit spawns doesnt mean I missed the shot.

sometimes you need to think a little when trying to be a smartarse. I though you might even bring up the hunter death. you dont have a fking clue.

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KainD wrote...

Claymore sniping. lol

How do I record a video like that btw?


I just used a program called MSI afterburner. it allows you to record in game video in compressed format. its free btw. 

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@eldrjth, maybe you can record a video for me?

Oh wait nvm, I will try that thing.

Modifié par KainD, 10 avril 2012 - 09:06 .


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eldrjth wrote...

^ Rhaina youre a dumbarse just leave the thread. its called spawn immunity. I regularly do not get dmg as soon as a unit spawns doesnt mean I missed the shot.

sometimes you need to think a little when trying to be a smartarse. I though you might even bring up the hunter death. you dont have a fking clue.


You seem mad.

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eldrjth wrote...

^ Rhaina youre a dumbarse just leave the thread. its called spawn immunity. I regularly do not get dmg as soon as a unit spawns doesnt mean I missed the shot.

sometimes you need to think a little when trying to be a smartarse. I though you might even bring up the hunter death. you dont have a fking clue.


You regularly make the same mistake, yet I need to get a clue.

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eldrjth wrote...
you leave the main group and try to gun down stuff that wouldve died to sniper fire. you dont cover your teams blind spots and dont deal dmg at range. you also tend to die in isolated locations that are hard to reach and become swarmed with enemies. you also wont outscore a decent sniper and are severely hindered against some units.


This.

This playstile sacrifices all thats good about an infiltrator for something that is essentially a gimmick, and in the process, will most likely end up being more of a cost than a benefit to the team.

You may be the exception - godlike in doing so, never die and always kill everyhitng faster than anyone else, but people dont know that. Thats why you get kicked.

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Rhaina wrote...


You regularly make the same mistake, yet I need to get a clue.


DO YOU KNOW WHAT SPAWN IMMUNITY IS OR NOT? 

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eldrjth wrote...

Rhaina wrote...


You regularly make the same mistake, yet I need to get a clue.


DO YOU KNOW WHAT SPAWN IMMUNITY IS OR NOT? 


Are you claiming to continuesly make the same mistake or not? Image IPB

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eldrjth wrote...

Rhaina wrote...


You regularly make the same mistake, yet I need to get a clue.


DO YOU KNOW WHAT SPAWN IMMUNITY IS OR NOT? 


Yes, it means the mob is immune to damage for a short time after spawning. It also means you're a retard for trying to shoot it during that time.

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@Rhaina ^ what are you talking about moron?

@ Ispano. no idiot, that unit died in the second shot 0.2s later. get a fking clue . 

Modifié par eldrjth, 10 avril 2012 - 09:19 .


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The program doesn't work for me. =(

Fraps also does't work for some reason. It worked before, now it doesn't.

Can somebody record a video for me? =D

#173
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you need to capture the video yourself. nobody can record it obviously, unless you want a recording of a game from their point of view.

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You asked if he knew what Spawn Immunity is. The fact you don't get the irony of this, is what's hilarious. He described you shooting a target and it not taking damage, you even stated "first shot was on target and registered no dmg" why would you shoot a target that you KNOW won't take damage instead of pausing a second THEN shooting?

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eldrjth wrote...

you need to capture the video yourself. nobody can record it obviously, unless you want a recording of a game from their point of view.


How about you go down just for a couple of rounds, and record the view of my char right from behind? Right now, it will be really quick?