Why the Hate for Salarian Claymore Infiltrator?
#151
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 08:52
#152
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 08:54
sab with exploding upgrade turns geth into bombs multikills everywhere.
#153
Guest_XxTaLoNxX_*
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 08:54
Guest_XxTaLoNxX_*
eldrjth wrote...
you leave the main group and try to gun down stuff that wouldve died to sniper fire. you dont cover your teams blind spots and dont deal dmg at range. you also tend to die in isolated locations that are hard to reach and become swarmed with enemies. you also wont outscore a decent sniper and are severely hindered against some units.
And you know this because you have played with him... right?
No. You are just assuming, which just makes you an ass.
#154
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 08:54
#155
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 08:55
Eviscerator X 74.9
Wraith X 111.9
Claymore X 206
Grall X 100
Geth Plasma X 892.7
90% WD cloak
25% WD barrel add-on V
~20% WD passive (varries)
20% WD HS perk
I did not factor the Proximity mine debuff in the calculations but it should add 20% WD to affected targets
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Katana X 60.2 (5 shot clip - only 3 with cloak bonus ?)
Head Shot shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)
60.2 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 383.77500 (383.77500 * 8 = 3070.2) Katana can be lethal on gold with Head Shots
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Eviscerator X 74.9 (3 shot clip - only 2? with cloak)
Body shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)
74.9 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2) = 176.01500 (176.01500 * 8 = 1408.12) Will not kill in one body cloaked hit on gold without consumables (works on silver)
Head Shot shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)
74.9 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 477.4875 (477.4875 * 8 = 3819.9) Aim a few pellets to the head and it becomes lethal on gold
KATANA might be BETTER (lighter, fires faster, bigger clip - Eviscerator is elegedly a bit more accurate at range - important when going for head shots)
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Wraith X 111.9 (2 shot clip - 2 shots with cloak bonus)
Body shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)
111.9 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2) = 262.965 (262.96500 * 8 = 2103.72) Geth Hunter and Pyro have more shield on gold - will need HS ...
Head Shot shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)
111.9 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 713.3625 (713.3625 * 8 = 5706.9) (can drop most protected non boss enemies with 1 HS)
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Claymore X 206 (1 shot clip - 2 shots with cloak bonus with reload trick ?)
Body Shot WITHOUT CLOAK (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)
206 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2) = 298.7 (298.7 * 8 = 2389.6) (1 body hit kill non protected mooks on gold, removes geth hunter shield)
Head Shot WITHOUT CLOAK (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)
206 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 849.75 (849.75 * 8 = 6798) (1 HS hit kills Geth Hunters and Pyros without cloak ?)
Body shot from cloak (Damage vs health, shield or barrier)
206 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2) = 484.1 (484.1 * 8 = 3872.8)
Head Shot shot from cloak
206 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.2 + 0.9) * 2.5 = 1313.25 (1313.25 * 8 = 10506)
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Graal X (hard to get) 100 (3 shot clip - can fire one charged + 2 uncharged hit with cloak bonus ?)
Uncharged Body shot from cloak (Damage vs health, armor ,shield or barrier
100 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.9) = 235 (235 * 6 = 1410 - will not kill on gold with body shots withot consumables // proximity mine)
Charged Body shot from cloak (Damage vs health, armor ,shield or barrier)
100 * 2 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.9) = 470 (470 * 6 = 2820) (will need HS for protected foes)
Uncharged head shot from cloak (Damage vs health, armor ,shield or barrier
100 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.9 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 637.5 (637.5 * 6 = 3825) { gold geth hunter & pyro will need charged HS - marauder//centurion should drop }
Charged head shot from cloak (Damage vs health, armor ,shield or barrier)
100 * 2 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2 + 0.9 + 0.2) * 2.5 = 1275 (1275 * 6 = 7650)
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Geth Plasma Shotgun X (hard to get 892.7)
MAX Charged Cloaked Shot
892.7 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2) = 3356.552
MAX Charged uncloaked shot
892.7 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) * (1 + 0.25 + 0.2) = 2071.064
Snap Cloaked Shot
~892.7 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) * (1 + 0.25 + 0.9 + 0.2) * 0.45 = ~1510.4484 (no kill without consumables // a bit of charge up time)
#156
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 08:56
XxTaLoNxX wrote...
No. You are just assuming, which just makes you an ass.
in reference to shotgun infiltrators generally. not really attacking him but he could take it that way too, since thats my typical exerience from countless hours playing this game, in public matches.
Modifié par eldrjth, 10 avril 2012 - 09:23 .
#157
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 08:58
eldrjth wrote...
Rhaina wrote...
masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Firebase_White
I meant dagger. what of it already?
You mean your hilariously incomplete comparison of the weapons in a single situation?
Or do you mean your godlike sniping ability. Great first shot btw.
#158
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 08:59
How do I record a video like that btw?
Modifié par KainD, 10 avril 2012 - 09:00 .
#159
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 08:59
first shot was on target and registered no dmg. it happens often when a unit spawns. I showed it against the WEAKEST unit so you can assume the claymore would have MORE difficulty against shielded targets.
Modifié par eldrjth, 10 avril 2012 - 09:01 .
#160
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:01
eldrjth wrote...
^ units sometimes have spawn immunity. are you incredibly thick headed idiot?
Maybe you should rewatch your own video.
#161
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:01
#162
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:03
sometimes you need to think a little when trying to be a smartarse. I though you might even bring up the hunter death. you dont have a fking clue.
#163
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:04
KainD wrote...
Claymore sniping. lol
How do I record a video like that btw?
I just used a program called MSI afterburner. it allows you to record in game video in compressed format. its free btw.
#164
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:04
Oh wait nvm, I will try that thing.
Modifié par KainD, 10 avril 2012 - 09:06 .
#165
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:11
eldrjth wrote...
^ Rhaina youre a dumbarse just leave the thread. its called spawn immunity. I regularly do not get dmg as soon as a unit spawns doesnt mean I missed the shot.
sometimes you need to think a little when trying to be a smartarse. I though you might even bring up the hunter death. you dont have a fking clue.
You seem mad.
#166
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:11
eldrjth wrote...
^ Rhaina youre a dumbarse just leave the thread. its called spawn immunity. I regularly do not get dmg as soon as a unit spawns doesnt mean I missed the shot.
sometimes you need to think a little when trying to be a smartarse. I though you might even bring up the hunter death. you dont have a fking clue.
You regularly make the same mistake, yet I need to get a clue.
#167
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:11
eldrjth wrote...
you leave the main group and try to gun down stuff that wouldve died to sniper fire. you dont cover your teams blind spots and dont deal dmg at range. you also tend to die in isolated locations that are hard to reach and become swarmed with enemies. you also wont outscore a decent sniper and are severely hindered against some units.
This.
This playstile sacrifices all thats good about an infiltrator for something that is essentially a gimmick, and in the process, will most likely end up being more of a cost than a benefit to the team.
You may be the exception - godlike in doing so, never die and always kill everyhitng faster than anyone else, but people dont know that. Thats why you get kicked.
#168
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:14
Rhaina wrote...
You regularly make the same mistake, yet I need to get a clue.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT SPAWN IMMUNITY IS OR NOT?
#169
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:15
eldrjth wrote...
Rhaina wrote...
You regularly make the same mistake, yet I need to get a clue.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT SPAWN IMMUNITY IS OR NOT?
Are you claiming to continuesly make the same mistake or not?
#170
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:16
eldrjth wrote...
Rhaina wrote...
You regularly make the same mistake, yet I need to get a clue.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT SPAWN IMMUNITY IS OR NOT?
Yes, it means the mob is immune to damage for a short time after spawning. It also means you're a retard for trying to shoot it during that time.
#171
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:17
@ Ispano. no idiot, that unit died in the second shot 0.2s later. get a fking clue .
Modifié par eldrjth, 10 avril 2012 - 09:19 .
#172
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:21
Fraps also does't work for some reason. It worked before, now it doesn't.
Can somebody record a video for me? =D
#173
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:22
#174
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:23
#175
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 09:23
eldrjth wrote...
you need to capture the video yourself. nobody can record it obviously, unless you want a recording of a game from their point of view.
How about you go down just for a couple of rounds, and record the view of my char right from behind? Right now, it will be really quick?





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