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[eldrjth]

^ no. youre thick. I get it already.

[Rhaina]

eldrjth wrote...

^ no. youre thick. I get it already.

Can you tell me?

[KainD]

Drotter wrote...

KainD wrote...



I need someone to record a video. XD

lol I never get tired of that icon xD
YES! Record it! Want me to give a link? >D

Can you record my play?

No recording programs work for me. 

Modifié par KainD, 10 avril 2012 - 10:19 .

[NUM13ER]

I'm currently using the saber assault rifle with a Salarian infiltrator. With a scope and stabilizer its basically got the attributes of a powerful sniper rifle but lighter with more rounds in the clip and a faster rate of fire.

On gold most people put an emphasis on powerful, long range weaponry. The geth shotgun is a long range death machine in the right hands. The claymore...not so much.

Modifié par NUM13ER, 10 avril 2012 - 10:22 .

[KainD]

 I just finished Gold solo with a Salarian Infiltrator on Firebase Dagger in 44 min, using GPS. 

[Titus Thongger]

what's better for a shotgun infiltrator? GPS or claymore?

[KainD]

Titus Thongger wrote...

what's better for a shotgun infiltrator? GPS or claymore?

GPS of course.

[eldrjth]

@KainD
^ why cant you record?

[KainD]

eldrjth wrote...

@KainD
^ why cant you record?

I have no idea. 

That's why i propose one of you just enter my game. And record from my chars back. Who cares where I point my cursor? You will still see everything, and can record.

[eldrjth]

its not as good if someone else records you rather than from your view. got to get your system working properly. I want to see you solo gold with a GPS.

[KainD]

eldrjth wrote...

its not as good if someone else records you rather than from your view. got to get your system working properly. I want to see you solo gold with a GPS.

I know, but I can't. 

I tried using both the programm you sent me and fraps. It just does nothing. It doesn't appear in the game and the recording doesn't start. 

It would atlest be something if you or anyone else entered the game.

Edit: Thing is, also I know exactly how to record. It work in my Skyrim for example, just not in ME3 for some reason.

Modifié par KainD, 10 avril 2012 - 10:33 .

[TLK Spires]

i played with 2 in FBW/gold/geth. early on, they were doing well. then later on, they kept dying, over and over. eventually, they had no medi-gel and everyone but me (level 20 salarian engineer) was dead, wave 10, 2/4 enemies killed, i had no rockets. i damn near killed the geth prime, but nope, time expired. give me 5 more seconds and he's dead (there were a lot of his buddies around, too).

**** like that is why people dont like them. personally, i still like having them around as the good ones can go ham, but the ones that suck are worse than vanguards that suck.

Modifié par TLK Spires, 10 avril 2012 - 10:33 .

[eldrjth]

I assume you have already installed MSI afterburner? close down fraps when you try to record with afterburner. and make sure you dont have the shortcut key in use by another program, (better to close all background programs) or keybinded. when you press the record key is there a pink icon on the top of your screen? if so you might want to check to see if you have indeed made a recording. are you running in windowed or full screen mode?

[KainD]

eldrjth wrote...

I assume you have already installed MSI afterburner? close down fraps when you try to record with afterburner. and make sure you dont have the shortcut key in use by another program, (better to close all background programs) or keybinded. when you press the record key is there a pink icon on the top of your screen? if so you might want to check to see if you have indeed made a recording. are you running in windowed or full screen mode?

Fullscreen and no icon appears.

[Xaero-Avenger]

eldrjth wrote...

I didnt think I needed to post it either moron. read the fking thread then gtfo.

The thread appears to be that "shotgun infs are legit", wow, I read the thread and I still don't get what you're posting about, Snipers beat Claymores at long range, no **** sherlock but that's not the discussion, plus the sniper rifle is vastly ineffective at close range, observe:

point is the Valiant is not more effective than the claymore close range in taking out trash, its also inferior to the Katana (Katana X would only need 2 shots to kill 2 trash units). by extrapolating this 'result' the Valiant would have more difficulty with elite units in close range compared to shotguns. once the enemy is further the sniper is more effective but definitely not so at close range.

Seems Legit

[eldrjth]

Arkley wrote...

Lastly, if you doubt the effective range of the Claymore or GPS, you can try a simple experiment for yourself; equip one (with a choke, if Claymore) and start up a Gold game on Firebase Dagger. Any enemy will do. Go to the central room, the sniper perch. You know the two spawn points opposite the perch, that snipers love to shoot at? Wait for enemies to spawn, cloak, and fire a shot at the group. You'll most likely kill any of them that are in your reticule, unless they have shields. In which case, shield drain first. 

That's how far the Claymore can remain effective. 

...

No, you don't. You don't need to be anywhere near an enemy to kill them with a Claymore. For the sake of whatever deity you believe in, please, please learn about how these guns actually work before you try to comment on their effectiveness. It boggles my mind to see it. It's like seeing a four year old argue with a mechanic about how best to repair an engine.

if it were obvious to everyone why the fk do I have to explain it to the guy above. some of you sh*ts need to actually read the thread.

[eldrjth]

Xaero-Avenger wrote...

point is the Valiant is not more effective than the claymore close range in taking out trash, its also inferior to the Katana (Katana X would only need 2 shots to kill 2 trash units). by extrapolating this 'result' the Valiant would have more difficulty with elite units in close range compared to shotguns. once the enemy is further the sniper is more effective but definitely not so at close range.

Seems Legit

a valiant is better at taking out trash even in close range. want me to post another viddy?

[Khaydarin135]

 Why don't we setup a pro's and con's for both rifles:
Sniper:
Pros
-Good from mid to long range.
-Constant heavy damage regardless from distance
.-Can benefit from the +40% sniper perk for more damage

Cons.
-Useless at close range.
-Harder to use in close map (Glacier, reactor)
-Shield gate absorption

Claymore
Pros
-Good from close to mid range.
-Hits harder than sniper at close range
-Can oneshot enemies regardless of shield gating. (at close range).
-Can strip shield and some chunk of health at medium range. (More or less)

Cons
-Useless at long range.
-Less effective during boss fight (But this is only according to my experience. Some say it can 3 shot prime...)
-Damage is reduced at mid range.
-Aiming is rather vague.

Modifié par Khaydarin135, 10 avril 2012 - 12:49 .

[eldrjth]

one more thing I like to add is that a single ED+HS from a single pellet from a claymore will infact kill a trooper. It is not the case that you can kill with a single headshot without cloak. but given that a cloaked ED does 462*(1+0.9)=877 and a single shotgun pellet does 1326, 877+1326=2203>1856 (health of geth trooper). so if you ED and get a HS you should kill a trooper. the fact that you havent killed a troopers must mean you have missed at HS!

Modifié par eldrjth, 10 avril 2012 - 01:17 .

[Skorpijon]

Doesnt matter how you look at it.
If you want to argue about little stuff and evidence and experience and assumptions, you will do that.

But if you look at it from a distance (the perspective of the view not as the distance as in my stick shoots farther and better and stronger).
A capable player can play any class on any map with any enemy and be way way way better then some pimped up uber class with awesome weapons if its played by a newbie that has never seen a first person shooter in his life before (hell, ive been a lvl 1 sentinel/engineer/sniper infiltrator in a silver match and have pwned all those "weapon X + mods + lvl20" on a scoreboard. But i dont care, its the team effort that counts).

In a balanced team you have mix of classes that support each others. Sniper infiltrator, shotgun infiltrator, biotic/tech initiators/detonators, and pure vanguard teleporter to confuse everyone. Shotgun infiltrators are ideal counterpart of sniper infiltrators. If they are played right.

So stop arguing about it. There will always be ppl that play classes "the wrong way" from your point of view. Nothing you can do about it. Just hope, that they are as good as you are and everything will be fine.

Modifié par Skorpijon, 10 avril 2012 - 01:14 .

[ReflectedRed]

Naoe wrote...

eldrjth wrote...
you leave the main group and try to gun down stuff that wouldve died to sniper fire. you dont cover your teams blind spots and dont deal dmg at range. you also tend to die in isolated locations that are hard to reach and become swarmed with enemies. you also wont outscore a decent sniper and are severely hindered against some units.

This. I've never seen a shotgun inf outperform a mediocre sniper.

Not this. I've not seen sniper infiltrator outperform me while I'm running with shotgun. And I'm usually the one doing the objectives and saving others asses by killing phantoms and all that tricky stuff around them, ppl cant seem to handle. But I guess I have never seen that awesome sniper that is "so much better" than infiltrator with shotty.

[Rhaina]

ReflectedRed wrote...

Naoe wrote...

eldrjth wrote...
you leave the main group and try to gun down stuff that wouldve died to sniper fire. you dont cover your teams blind spots and dont deal dmg at range. you also tend to die in isolated locations that are hard to reach and become swarmed with enemies. you also wont outscore a decent sniper and are severely hindered against some units.

This. I've never seen a shotgun inf outperform a mediocre sniper.

Not this. I've not seen sniper infiltrator outperform me while I'm running with shotgun. And I'm usually the one doing the objectives and saving others asses by killing phantoms and all that tricky stuff around them, ppl cant seem to handle. But I guess I have never seen that awesome sniper that is "so much better" than infiltrator with shotty.

It's likely due to them being so good, they fire at those crazy spawn immune mobs.

[eldrjth]

^ you again. I posted a video showing most of the dmg a shotgun infil is actually doing to a mob at long range is ED dmg, while most of the dmg a sniper infil is doing is weapon dmg and you go on about a spawn immune guy that I dont even know if you realised was spawn immune in the first place i.e. you thought I missed the shot. you are prob a crap shotgun infil, who only uses the shotgun cause hes has crap aim. that is irony. you would be lucky to kill the same unit with 2 shots when the guy is not spawn immune.

reflectedred what maps do you play?if youre talking about FB:W from behind the desk then, yes a sniper will prob not outscore you, and that is because of two reasons. firstly the screen shakes like fk, secondly you are under fire and dont get full weapon dps from a semi-auto and a shotgun will aim quicker.

I have never been outscored by a shotgun infil (in the full 11 waves) and the ones that do well use a GPS and fire from a dist. or use the claymore on glacier.

[Aerius]

Why is a Sniper build ineffective at close range? Quickscoping against a target that has 1/3d of your screen is easy. Just half an hour away I played hydra against geth (gold, obviously) with blind teammates and I killed about half the hunters I did kill in the whole game when they stood right in front me. With a Widow.
The same game had an SI with a Claymore. He sucked. Really. He died often, didn't kill much and in total, scored about 1/3d of the points I did with my Widow. Now, I know individual player skill matters, however, I never, ever had a single game with a claymore SI / other infil that outscored me and / or didn't play like crap. And I gave them many chances, really. I have yet to encounter a single claymore/gps/shotgun in general infiltrator that kills more than I do with my widow. And until then, I simply doubt they are effective on gold. Practice proves me right.

[Rhaina]

eldrjth wrote...
I have never been outscored by a shotgun infil 

eldrjth wrote...
the ones that do well use a GPS and fire from a dist. or use the claymore on glacier.