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[eboshi12]

If the created always rebel against thier creators, then why have have the reapers spent millions of years in servitude to the starkid? What's stopped them from rebelling and destroying everything the star kid created? They're obviously intelligent and capable of independent thought, yet they've remained content as slaves for some reason. Why don't we have the option to confont the kid about this!?

[Dark_Caduceus]

Nobody knows. Maybe we'll find out with the extended cut DLC.

[Rhazeal]

Speculations and Space Magic.


But seriously. The relationship between SC and Reapers is very poorly thought out. It feels tacked on and glossed over.

[Computron2000]

Because the reaper kid told them if they didn't do as they were told, they wouldn't get to play with the toys

[mokponobi]

Unfortunately there are many questions that we may not be getting answers to right now, perhaps future games will explain more about the universe, the keepers, the reapers, their origins etc...assuming there are plans for it.

[kalasaurus]

I have no idea. Maybe they liked Starkid's plans and were happy being his slaves? Idk, speculating is all we can do at this point until the dlc.

[revo76]

In ME1, Sovereign clearly explained that each Reaper is independent, free from weaknesses, each Reaper has their own consciousnesses, but one agenda. They cant be controlled, nor made, they have no beginning, no end, they're infinite.

Yeah thats what Sovy said in ME1.

But in ME3, SC says otherwise.

Do not look ME3 as a part of ME2 and ME1, because it's not. The ending is 180 degree opposite of ME2 and ME1.



Ah, BTW, you wont see the response in DLC, dont get your hopes up 

Modifié par revo76, 09 avril 2012 - 03:17 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

He keeps them distracted with tricolored laser pointer, Reapers are a lot like cats you see.

[Ownedbacon]

Rhazeal wrote...

Speculations and Space Magic.


But seriously. The relationship between SC and Reapers is very poorly thought out. It feels tacked on and glossed over.

Exactly it was tacked on... if they had planned on having a Reaper creator they would have foreshadowed it in Mass Effect 1 and 2. Had they gone with the planned Dark Energy plotline whether it would have turned out good or bad; it would have fit the series better since it doesn't contradict the previous installments.

[Sir Adamus]

Because Bioware had a logic deficiency. Side effects of logic deficiency includes arrogance, pride, 'artistic integrity', lying through your teeth and utter patronisation of loyal customers who apparently just don't get it.

Modifié par Sir Adamus, 09 avril 2012 - 03:24 .

[eboshi12]

Ownedbacon wrote...

Rhazeal wrote...

Speculations and Space Magic.


But seriously. The relationship between SC and Reapers is very poorly thought out. It feels tacked on and glossed over.

Exactly it was tacked on... if they had planned on having a Reaper creator they would have foreshadowed it in Mass Effect 1 and 2. Had they gone with the planned Dark Energy plotline whether it would have turned out good or bad; it would have fit the series better since it doesn't contradict the previous installments.

Couldn't agree more. The fact that something made them at all just takes away their mystery and scariness. The idea of something inifinite and absolutely evil for no known reason is much creepier than the idea of being attacked by some AI's puppets. I'm not entirely familiar with the Dark Energy plotline that they scrapped, bu surely to god it would have been better than what they replaced it with.

[The Interloper]

Because the plot holes stopped them.

[Dantexr3]

Because it's very bad written and contradict the other two games.

[aternak]

It is not a thing you can comprehend.

[Arppis]

eboshi12 wrote...

If the created always rebel against thier creators, then why have have the reapers spent millions of years in servitude to the starkid? What's stopped them from rebelling and destroying everything the star kid created? They're obviously intelligent and capable of independent thought, yet they've remained content as slaves for some reason. Why don't we have the option to confont the kid about this!?

He was propably elevated to the status of "god".

Reapers most likely didn't even know about him. Just like with indocrination, you don't realize you are being controlled. Very simple explonation tbh.

Modifié par Arppis, 09 avril 2012 - 03:28 .

[Ownedbacon]

revo76 wrote...

In ME1, Sovereign clearly explained that each Reaper is independent, free from weaknesses, each Reaper has their own consciousnesses, but one agenda. They cant be controlled, nor made, they have no beginning, no end, they're infinite.

Yeah thats what Sovy said in ME1.

But in ME3, SC says otherwise.

Do not look ME3 as a part of ME2 and ME1, because it's not. The ending is 180 degree opposite of ME2 and ME1.



Ah, BTW, you wont see the response in DLC, dont get your hopes up 

This is what bugs me most about the ending is their blatant disregard for their previous plots and lore. Then they stand proud of their ending like it was their best work. They have done things so well throughout this series and even in the Mass Effect 3 game with Tuchanka and Rannoch missions. The ending is just so distant from anything in the Mass Effect series it is embarassing that they thought it was a fitting end.

[thedancingdruid]

Because the ending of the game is not connected with the known, understandable ME universe...which if the goal was "lots of speculation for everyone", then the goal failed, because it's simply lots of frustration for everyone.

[KingLee2k9]

Because they would have to sit at the naughty corner if they rebelled?

[Atmospeer]

How do you know they wouldn't rebel at a later time?

Modifié par Atmospeer, 09 avril 2012 - 03:31 .

[shepskisaac]

revo76 wrote...

In ME1, Sovereign clearly explained that each Reaper is independent, free from weaknesses, each Reaper has their own consciousnesses, but one agenda. They cant be controlled, nor made, they have no beginning, no end, they're infinite.

Yeah thats what Sovy said in ME1.

And he also said Reapers have no beginning or end. Yeah, what a humble and trusty source of information

[eboshi12]

KingLee2k9 wrote...

Because they would have to sit at the naughty corner if they rebelled?

Really? Is that stated in the Primary or the Secondary codex? lol

[NormanRawn]

eboshi12 wrote...

If the created always rebel against thier creators, then why have have the reapers spent millions of years in servitude to the starkid? What's stopped them from rebelling and destroying everything the star kid created? They're obviously intelligent and capable of independent thought, yet they've remained content as slaves for some reason. Why don't we have the option to confont the kid about this!?

Indoctrination over the Reaper servants is powerful, maybe the Catalyst has that sort of control over the Reapers

Modifié par NormanRawn, 09 avril 2012 - 03:37 .

[eboshi12]

Atmospeer wrote...

How do you know they wouldn't rebel at a later time?

Well they're taking their sweet time. It took the Geth less than hundred years.

[Ekyri]

reapers are only partly synthetic, can see this in ME2 with the human reaper

[Atmospeer]

eboshi12 wrote...

Atmospeer wrote...

How do you know they wouldn't rebel at a later time?

Well they're taking their sweet time. It took the Geth less than hundred years.

Time is irrelevant when we're talking about an almost infinite timescale.