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[Arppis]

IsaacShep wrote...

revo76 wrote...

In ME1, Sovereign clearly explained that each Reaper is independent, free from weaknesses, each Reaper has their own consciousnesses, but one agenda. They cant be controlled, nor made, they have no beginning, no end, they're infinite.

Yeah thats what Sovy said in ME1.

And he also said Reapers have no beginning or end. Yeah, what a humble and trusty source of information

Might be because they don't know about how they were created. Arrogance and ignorance do walk hand to hand sometimes. I don't see this as a problem.

[OdanUrr]

eboshi12 wrote...

If the created always rebel against thier creators, then why have have the reapers spent millions of years in servitude to the starkid? What's stopped them from rebelling and destroying everything the star kid created? They're obviously intelligent and capable of independent thought, yet they've remained content as slaves for some reason. Why don't we have the option to confont the kid about this!?

Well, a simple explanation would be that maybe the Reapers don't know about the Catalyst. The Catalyst may have very well created them to be fairly independent but ultimately susceptible to the Catalyst's influence. In any event, it would be nice if the Catalyst were to explain all of this himself.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 09 avril 2012 - 03:39 .

[shepskisaac]

Arppis wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

revo76 wrote...

In ME1, Sovereign clearly explained that each Reaper is independent, free from weaknesses, each Reaper has their own consciousnesses, but one agenda. They cant be controlled, nor made, they have no beginning, no end, they're infinite.

Yeah thats what Sovy said in ME1.

And he also said Reapers have no beginning or end. Yeah, what a humble and trusty source of information

Might be because they don't know about how they were created. Arrogance and ignorance do walk hand to hand sometimes. I don't see this as a problem.

Of course. But people now treat everything what Sovereign says in ME1 as gospel, no matter the fact that some of it made no sense.

[nevar00]

Who knows. It turned the Reapers from scary unknowable sentient spaceships to little more than big guns used by the Starkid.

[M Hedonist]

The extended dialogue from the 'extended cut' dlc will be like this:
Catalst: "The created will always rebel against the creators. Except this one time when I created the reapers. And when I was created by somebody else. But those two time are really the only exceptions ever. Also the Geth maybe, but that's really not important right now."
Shepard: "Ok."

[eboshi12]

Sauruz wrote...

The extended dialogue from the 'extended cut' dlc will be like this:
Catalst: "The created will always rebel against the creators. Except this one time when I created the reapers. And when I was created by somebody else. But those two time are really the only exceptions ever. Also the Geth maybe, but that's really not important right now."
Shepard: "Ok."

Omg, thanks for the laugh lol. Somehow I can picture this happening

[Arppis]

IsaacShep wrote...

Arppis wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

revo76 wrote...

In ME1, Sovereign clearly explained that each Reaper is independent, free from weaknesses, each Reaper has their own consciousnesses, but one agenda. They cant be controlled, nor made, they have no beginning, no end, they're infinite.

Yeah thats what Sovy said in ME1.

And he also said Reapers have no beginning or end. Yeah, what a humble and trusty source of information

Might be because they don't know about how they were created. Arrogance and ignorance do walk hand to hand sometimes. I don't see this as a problem.

Of course. But people now treat everything what Sovereign says in ME1 as gospel, no matter the fact that some of it made no sense.

Aaahhh...

You are a smart man! 

Modifié par Arppis, 09 avril 2012 - 03:59 .

[dreman9999]

The reference was based on organic vs synthetic.

[eddieoctane]

Greylycantrope wrote...

He keeps them distracted with tricolored laser pointer, Reapers are a lot like cats you see.

Best answer I've seen for this question to date.


Seriously, though, the Reapers are more than a billion years old. If organics always created AIs in every 50,000 year cycle, and "the created always rebel against the creators", how the hell have the Reapers not jettisoned starchild into the nearest black hole yet? If the Reapers are his "solution" that implies a rather strong creator-created relationship. Just goes to show how little BioWare cared about the ending.

[Computron2000]

Sauruz wrote...

The extended dialogue from the 'extended cut' dlc will be like this:
Catalst: "The created will always rebel against the creators. Except this one time when I created the reapers. And when I was created by somebody else. But those two time are really the only exceptions ever. Also the Geth maybe, but that's really not important right now."
Shepard: "Ok."

That would be great. It would make everything so much clearer then

[soulprovider]

mokponobi wrote...

Unfortunately there are many questions that we may not be getting answers to right now, perhaps future games will explain more about the universe, the keepers, the reapers, their origins etc...assuming there are plans for it.

this may be true then three games later they'll invalidate all the storyline they told you in favor of something artistic, the keepers and the citadel and the reapers were pretty well explained in ME 1 and ME2 but bioware threw out those storylines completely and now we have the reapers being servants to the starbaby who was never fully hinted at. There supposedly is a minor hinting of a little bit of info when you investigate a certain planet on ME1 or ME2 but nothing concrete(I nver saw the planet so I don't know its name only rumors).

[soulprovider]

IsaacShep wrote...

Arppis wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

revo76 wrote...

In ME1, Sovereign clearly explained that each Reaper is independent, free from weaknesses, each Reaper has their own consciousnesses, but one agenda. They cant be controlled, nor made, they have no beginning, no end, they're infinite.

Yeah thats what Sovy said in ME1.

And he also said Reapers have no beginning or end. Yeah, what a humble and trusty source of information

Might be because they don't know about how they were created. Arrogance and ignorance do walk hand to hand sometimes. I don't see this as a problem.

Of course. But people now treat everything what Sovereign says in ME1 as gospel, no matter the fact that some of it made no sense.

It is gospel dammit now pay your respects!!!!
just kidding all in all sovereign and harbringer hint at the reapers being fully sentient AI killing and harvesting for a larger purpose than the starbaby tells shepard. What always got me about the starbaby if he his part of the citadel and has control over the reapers why then did sovereign need to control the citadel if all he had to do was contact starbaby and get him to alter the signal to set the keepers off.

[NormanRawn]

soulprovider wrote...

mokponobi wrote...

Unfortunately there are many questions that we may not be getting answers to right now, perhaps future games will explain more about the universe, the keepers, the reapers, their origins etc...assuming there are plans for it.

this may be true then three games later they'll invalidate all the storyline they told you in favor of something artistic, the keepers and the citadel and the reapers were pretty well explained in ME 1 and ME2 but bioware threw out those storylines completely and now we have the reapers being servants to the starbaby who was never fully hinted at. There supposedly is a minor hinting of a little bit of info when you investigate a certain planet on ME1 or ME2 but nothing concrete(I nver saw the planet so I don't know its name only rumors).

That hint refers to the beings of light? If so, I think that they are confusing the meaning behind that planet. I'll elaborate if that is what you were were talking about.