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#201
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IsaacShep wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

4chan trolls that are not reflective of anyone that posts here.

Except that there were personal insults regarding some devs here on BSN as well, threads calling Casey to resign, fans demanding heads etc.

 

 Either way.. right or wrong.. he is and  was Exective Producer and Mac Walters was lead Writer..  if they are to blame is irrevelent... it is  their  responsibilty  as Executive Producer and Lead Writer.. 

and if that means that they are removed from those positions... so be it.  

So it falls on them fairly or unfairly.    Thats burden of being incharge. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 09 avril 2012 - 08:40 .


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I don't think that Casey Hudson was to blame totally. He did the best he could with whatever resources he had left.
It's clear that time and money were running out towards the end.


More of this than anything else.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

4chan trolls that are not reflective of anyone that posts here.

Except that there were personal insults regarding some devs here on BSN as well, threads calling Casey to resign, fans demanding heads etc.

 

 Either way.. right or wrong.. he is and  was Exective Producer and Mac Walters was lead Writer..  if they are to blame is irrevelent... is their  responsibilty  as Executive Producer and Lead Writer.. 

and if that means that they are removed from those positions... so be it.  

So it falls on them fairly or unfairly.    Thats burden of being incharge. 


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AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument.


Hardly. Tell me, what actions have the pro enders done to be considered an extremist?

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Dridengx wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument.


Hardly. Tell me, what actions have the pro enders done to be considered an extremist?


They like the ending or don't want someone to loose it's job. Clearly they are terrorist. :?:pinched:

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Dridengx wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument.

Hardly. Tell me, what actions have the pro enders done to be considered an extremist?

You are one of the extremists so I don't blame you for being incapable of seeing it. 

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AxisEvolve wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument.

Hardly. Tell me, what actions have the pro enders done to be considered an extremist?

You are one of the extremists so I don't blame you for being incapable of seeing it. 


That's funny. Because he's really not. But that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

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Easy guys; no matter what our opinions are we're all here for the same reason.

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AxisEvolve wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument.

Hardly. Tell me, what actions have the pro enders done to be considered an extremist?

You are one of the extremists so I don't blame you for being incapable of seeing it. 


I didn't ask who they were. I asked what have they done. So since you pointed me out, then you should know what I did. What did I do to be labeled an extremist?

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Dridengx wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument.


Hardly. Tell me, what actions have the pro enders done to be considered an extremist?




Every time I’ve seen your posts it seems your goal is to incite a negative reaction from retaker’s

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AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument.

I don't see even the most fanatical defenders of the endings tweeting devs with personal insults. The most fanatical retakers on the other hadn is a different story.

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Imperium Alpha wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument.


Hardly. Tell me, what actions have the pro enders done to be considered an extremist?


They like the ending or don't want someone to loose it's job. Clearly they are terrorist. :?:pinched:



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He's gotten a bit too big for his britches, so to speak.

He thinks he's on the same level as the gaming greats.

He shouldn't be fired, but he needs a lesson in humility.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 09 avril 2012 - 08:44 .


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Sundance31us wrote...

Easy guys; no matter what our opinions are we're all here for the same reason.

Thank you

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j78 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument.


Hardly. Tell me, what actions have the pro enders done to be considered an extremist?




Every time I’ve seen your posts it seems your goal is to incite a negative reaction from retaker’s


Anti enders have negative responses to even the nicest threads. You should go check them out. they find any excuse to hate the ending or bring it up. If you find a legit thank you bioware I love the ending type thread they call them idiots for liking it.

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HenchxNarf wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument.

Hardly. Tell me, what actions have the pro enders done to be considered an extremist?

You are one of the extremists so I don't blame you for being incapable of seeing it. 


That's funny. Because he's really not. But that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.


Seriously? Because he's "on your side" you defend one of the most active flame baiters on the forum?
Then again I don't know why I keep expecting more of you.

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HenchxNarf wrote...
That's funny. Because he's really not. But that's your opinion and you're entitled to it 


With respect, anyone with the "Shepard deserves better fans" banner is inclined to side with one another no matter what the situation.


Dridengx wrote...
I didn't ask who they were. I asked what have they done. So since you pointed me out, then you should know what I did. What did I do to be labeled an extremist? 

 
You quoted my last post, but did you read it?

"There are borderline militant supporters of Bioware who go around attacking fans that voice any disapproval for the ending. I click on the profiles of these people and 100% of their posts are railing against people for having an opinion that goes against their own. "


IsaacShep wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...
There are extremists on both sides of the argument. 

I don't see even the most fanatical defenders of the endings tweeting devs with personal insults. The most fanatical retakers on the other hadn is a different story.

 
With respect, this is a weak point. Why would someone insult Bioware when they love the ending? It's illogical. Plus they're too busy insulting people who dislike the ending. 

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 09 avril 2012 - 08:46 .


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I can feel John Epler roaming this thread.

Modifié par felipejiraya, 09 avril 2012 - 08:47 .


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In cases like this there is never one person to blame, but it is common thing to choose someone on which we can focus all negative emotions. It is easier that way for people.

Personally I like mr. Hudson. Yes, I hate the ending, but I doubt he alone had the idea about it, created it and put it with the rest of the game.

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The Angry One wrote...

Seriously? Because he's "on your side" you defend one of the most active flame baiters on the forum?
Then again I don't know why I keep expecting more of you.


Coming from a self proclaimed flamebaiter, I actually see you as worse. Because you have admitted to picking at pro-enders to get responses from them.

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Oh there is a lot of gross generalization going on in this thread and that is never a good thing.

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Peete wrote...

 Some time ago there was a thread about what you would do if you became the owner of Bioware. Alot of the replies included firing Casey Hudson. I would post in that thread but I don't want to necro.

Today I finished Knights of the Old Republic. I thought the ending a bit lacking (nothing compared to ME3) but overall I thought it a great game. Casey Hudson Was the Director of that game (that's Wikipedia terminology - I believe he's refered to as "lead project manager" in the game).

That's why I think firing Casey Hudson would be a major mistake. If he wrote the ME 3 ending he screwed up - it happens. But it seems to me that he has a lot of good to offer.

Thoughts? 


I, like many, don't like his ending to ME3.

But the few (and they are only a few) people who are calling for him to be fired are morons.

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AxisEvolve wrote...

"There are borderline militant supporters of Bioware who go around attacking fans that voice any disapproval for the ending. I click on the profiles of these people and 100% of their posts are railing against people for having an opinion that goes against their own. "



I don't go around attacking anti enders. They make claims or say false information and I clarify it (thats facts not opinion). If you notice my posts are usually using their words against themselves. meanwhile anti enders spew dumb stuff like space magic, maurader shields! nothing matters! wah wah to derail threads.

Modifié par Dridengx, 09 avril 2012 - 08:50 .


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Peete wrote...

 Some time ago there was a thread about what you would do if you became the owner of Bioware. Alot of the replies included firing Casey Hudson. I would post in that thread but I don't want to necro.

Today I finished Knights of the Old Republic. I thought the ending a bit lacking (nothing compared to ME3) but overall I thought it a great game. Casey Hudson Was the Director of that game (that's Wikipedia terminology - I believe he's refered to as "lead project manager" in the game).

That's why I think firing Casey Hudson would be a major mistake. If he wrote the ME 3 ending he screwed up - it happens. But it seems to me that he has a lot of good to offer.

Thoughts? 


I disagree, he needs to be fired. 

He was in charge of the ME3 project.  He royally FUBAR'd the ending.  When whoever came up with the ending he should of vetoed it.  To add further insult, Casey knowingly lied about the features of ME3.  He knew what the ending was, yet was telling us that (1) there are 16 different endings (2) ending is affected by our ME3 choices and (3) we wouldn't have a Choose A, B, or C ending.  He didn't say this a year before release, but only weeks.  The game was pretty much done, the ending was complete and he knowingly and deliberately misled us about the features of the game.

So yeah he did good previous work.  However, KOTOR was released in 2003.  Oh how the mighty have fallen....

Remember people:  HOLD THE LINE

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HenchxNarf wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Seriously? Because he's "on your side" you defend one of the most active flame baiters on the forum?
Then again I don't know why I keep expecting more of you.


Coming from a self proclaimed flamebaiter, I actually see you as worse. Because you have admitted to picking at pro-enders to get responses from them.


In our PM convo the other day and explained I didn't appreciate you lying about the things I said.
I had thought maybe I had gotten through to you. I guess not. Because here you are doing it again.

Is this how you "win", Hench? I pity you.

Modifié par The Angry One, 09 avril 2012 - 08:50 .