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[Aaperture]

Ratham wrote...

Aaperture wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Lol @ all the anti pvpers, what are you afraid of? That youd get owned?

If you wouldnt like it, dont play it.

PvP stomps PvE into the ground all day, every day.

PvE is made to let you win, there is no challenge.

Go stroke your e-peen somewhere else. Not every game needs PvP.

If you don't like PvE, don't play it.

 PvE is made to let you win, there is no challenge. 

1/10 because you got me to reply. Troll harder.

Funny thing is I'm not trolling.

If you dont like PvP, dont play it.

I think you need to learn the meaning of "stroke your epeen" too.... I'm not here praising how "1337" i am...

You're clearly also an idiot. You're sitting here trying to tell me that PvE has no challange, or that everyone is afraid of getting 'owned' in PvP, yet somehow you aren't stroking your e-peen?

Do you even know what that means?

If you don't like PvE so much, then go play something else. This is a PvE game. Don't sit here and bash the game and request a horrible game-addition, then tell people who like the game to not play it and deal with it.

You retarded teenage ******.

[wolfstanus]

Hell no to pvp second worst idea next to having single player characters in multiplayer.

[Greenhelm]

Trylobyte wrote...

Warning, serious reply in a troll thread.

Three points go against PvP. First and simplest, Mass Effect is at its heart an RPG, and the current multiplayer meshes pretty well with that. A PvP mode doesn't fit - With the Reapers invading, why would the races' best and brightest be out there trying to kill each other? It breaks the atmosphere of the game to have such a thing around and atmosphere is important in games like these.

Second, mechanics. The classes would need to be redone and rebalanced in order to make the mode fair, let alone fun. You would need to implement some kind of respawning system or some way to make the match not end the minute four people die, or matches would last all of two minutes. A lot of classes would be outright ineffective due to one-shot kills or mass CC like Stasis (which would work on everyone since nobody has Armor). As a side effect, you'd also get a lot more hacking and cheating going on, as you do in any PvP-oriented FPS game. It comes with the genre.

Third, you can say 'Don't like it, don't play it' all you want. The fact remains that developing a PvP mode takes development resources that could be spent on doing things that the majority of the playerbase actually wants - Would you rather have PvP mode or better endings? PvP or the free Resurgence DLC? You can't have everything, as BioWare only has so many people to work on the project. Adding a widely unpopular, unwanted option at the expense of things the community wants a lot more is a great way to lose a lot of potential customers.

This

[Ratham]

Aaperture wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Aaperture wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Lol @ all the anti pvpers, what are you afraid of? That youd get owned?

If you wouldnt like it, dont play it.

PvP stomps PvE into the ground all day, every day.

PvE is made to let you win, there is no challenge.

Go stroke your e-peen somewhere else. Not every game needs PvP.

If you don't like PvE, don't play it.

 PvE is made to let you win, there is no challenge. 

1/10 because you got me to reply. Troll harder.

Funny thing is I'm not trolling.

If you dont like PvP, dont play it.

I think you need to learn the meaning of "stroke your epeen" too.... I'm not here praising how "1337" i am...

You're clearly also an idiot. You're sitting here trying to tell me that PvE has no challange, or that everyone is afraid of getting 'owned' in PvP, yet somehow you aren't stroking your e-peen?

Do you even know what that means?

If you don't like PvE so much, then go play something else. This is a PvE game. Don't sit here and bash the game and request a horrible game-addition, then tell people who like the game to not play it and deal with it.

You retarded teenage ******.

My oh my.. more petty insults from a PVE-er...? Or as some like to claim the "peaceful" community.

I think we've just establish BOTH sides have those outliers that go off the deep end and blow up at people. Its fun to demonize pvp and generalize all pvpers, but you're doing NOTHING different to me right now that you claim pvpers do.

Im not even trying to flame/troll, just point out things / defend pvp .... yet I see thats NOT possible with this community.

If I'm a "teenage ******"... and YOU'RE an adult (ya know.. the "more mature" one), thats quite sad, seeing as im not slinging insults around :innocent:

Also, if the idea of pvp in Mass Effect bothers you so much, why did you even click on this thread?

Modifié par Ratham, 10 avril 2012 - 12:22 .

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Ratham wrote...

Aaperture wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Aaperture wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Lol @ all the anti pvpers, what are you afraid of? That youd get owned?

If you wouldnt like it, dont play it.

PvP stomps PvE into the ground all day, every day.

PvE is made to let you win, there is no challenge.

Go stroke your e-peen somewhere else. Not every game needs PvP.

If you don't like PvE, don't play it.

 PvE is made to let you win, there is no challenge. 

1/10 because you got me to reply. Troll harder.

Funny thing is I'm not trolling.

If you dont like PvP, dont play it.

I think you need to learn the meaning of "stroke your epeen" too.... I'm not here praising how "1337" i am...

You're clearly also an idiot. You're sitting here trying to tell me that PvE has no challange, or that everyone is afraid of getting 'owned' in PvP, yet somehow you aren't stroking your e-peen?

Do you even know what that means?

If you don't like PvE so much, then go play something else. This is a PvE game. Don't sit here and bash the game and request a horrible game-addition, then tell people who like the game to not play it and deal with it.

You retarded teenage ******.

My oh my.. more petty insults from a PVE-er...?

Im not even trying to flame/troll, just point out things / defend pvp .... yet I see thats NOT possible with this community.

Also, if the idea of pvp in Mass Effect bothers you so much, why did you even click on this thread?

To argue against it.you ugly, yellow toothed, son of a nathak. 

[Cyonan]

Lastswarm wrote...

CC have been strong since players vs players exist. The solutions developped from other games could still apply. This mean : Diminishing returns, an item or spell to remove debuffs from your character, limitations to what "x" ability makes to human players but keeps pve untouched (really important the last thing you want to do is create a double balance issue), no one can one shot anyone unless it's a headshot. Vanguard charge's range is limited. I could go on for a while on how (I think I would) balance this game. But this would make for an endless discussion of "what if" and " you forgot "x vs y" matchup" The main point is. It's mostly a fps with a few rpg elements throwed in not the other way around.

Giving us all PvP trinkets isn't going to solve the fact that Stasis is an AoE CC on a 3 second cooldown. It works in games like WoW because most CC either break immediately on damage, or have lengthy cooldowns.

Couple that with the fact that we can die insanely fast, and whoever gets of the first CC basically automatically wins.

[AlviseVenice]

No

[FreeshootXiggy]

Trylobyte wrote...

Warning, serious reply in a troll thread.

Three points go against PvP. First and simplest, Mass Effect is at its heart an RPG, and the current multiplayer meshes pretty well with that. A PvP mode doesn't fit - With the Reapers invading, why would the races' best and brightest be out there trying to kill each other? It breaks the atmosphere of the game to have such a thing around and atmosphere is important in games like these.

Second, mechanics. The classes would need to be redone and rebalanced in order to make the mode fair, let alone fun. You would need to implement some kind of respawning system or some way to make the match not end the minute four people die, or matches would last all of two minutes. A lot of classes would be outright ineffective due to one-shot kills or mass CC like Stasis (which would work on everyone since nobody has Armor). As a side effect, you'd also get a lot more hacking and cheating going on, as you do in any PvP-oriented FPS game. It comes with the genre.

Third, you can say 'Don't like it, don't play it' all you want. The fact remains that developing a PvP mode takes development resources that could be spent on doing things that the majority of the playerbase actually wants - Would you rather have PvP mode or better endings? PvP or the free Resurgence DLC? You can't have everything, as BioWare only has so many people to work on the project. Adding a widely unpopular, unwanted option at the expense of things the community wants a lot more is a great way to lose a lot of potential customers.

^This is truth. Pure,plain and simple truth.

[Fresh Bamboo]

 Thread title should really be changed to "I want a pvp mode"

Because majority of the community thinks it's a horrible idea that would only come out of a prepubescent child's mind.

And because I think the OP is alone in his argument.

[Ratham]

Fresh Bamboo wrote...

 Thread title should really be changed to "I want a pvp mode"

Because majority of the community thinks it's a horrible idea that would only come out of a prepubescent child's mind.

And because I think the OP is alone in his argument.

Yes, because pvp is only thought about by prepubescent children....

The "majority" also didnt want multiplayer co-op either, it still happened.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Fresh Bamboo wrote...

 Thread title should really be changed to "I want a pvp mode"

Because majority of the community thinks it's a horrible idea that would only come out of a prepubescent child's mind.

And because I think the OP is alone in his argument.

\\

There's also a fat, ugly, child murderer supporting him. 

I won't name names though i ain't a snitch. 

[Ratham]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Fresh Bamboo wrote...

 Thread title should really be changed to "I want a pvp mode"

Because majority of the community thinks it's a horrible idea that would only come out of a prepubescent child's mind.

And because I think the OP is alone in his argument.

There's also a fat, ugly, child murderer supporting him. 

I won't name names though i ain't a snitch. 

I like you, you can stay

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Ratham wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Fresh Bamboo wrote...

 Thread title should really be changed to "I want a pvp mode"

Because majority of the community thinks it's a horrible idea that would only come out of a prepubescent child's mind.

And because I think the OP is alone in his argument.

There's also a fat, ugly, child murderer supporting him. 

I won't name names though i ain't a snitch. 

I like you, you can stay

I don't wanna be anywhere near a rapist. I'm leaving. 

[Lastswarm]

Greenhelm wrote...

Trylobyte wrote...

Warning, serious reply in a troll thread.

Three points go against PvP. First and simplest, Mass Effect is at its heart an RPG, and the current multiplayer meshes pretty well with that. A PvP mode doesn't fit - With the Reapers invading, why would the races' best and brightest be out there trying to kill each other? It breaks the atmosphere of the game to have such a thing around and atmosphere is important in games like these.

Second, mechanics. The classes would need to be redone and rebalanced in order to make the mode fair, let alone fun. You would need to implement some kind of respawning system or some way to make the match not end the minute four people die, or matches would last all of two minutes. A lot of classes would be outright ineffective due to one-shot kills or mass CC like Stasis (which would work on everyone since nobody has Armor). As a side effect, you'd also get a lot more hacking and cheating going on, as you do in any PvP-oriented FPS game. It comes with the genre.

Third, you can say 'Don't like it, don't play it' all you want. The fact remains that developing a PvP mode takes development resources that could be spent on doing things that the majority of the playerbase actually wants - Would you rather have PvP mode or better endings? PvP or the free Resurgence DLC? You can't have everything, as BioWare only has so many people to work on the project. Adding a widely unpopular, unwanted option at the expense of things the community wants a lot more is a great way to lose a lot of potential customers.

This

1. - Lore is evolving
- People could play as reapers
- It could be an intergalactic "sport"
- lol, story as your first point

2. Yes, There would have to be tweaking to some classes. CC is easily taken care of with "trinkets" and Drs, Also - there's a way it dosen't affect your precious pve at all. Most decent programmers nowadays are able to completly negate the presence of hackers.

3. This game has a pretty small life lenght given it's single-player campaign focus. The multiplayer feels cheap and incompleted without a pvp component to it.

[Lionheartwolf]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Fresh Bamboo wrote...

 Thread title should really be changed to "I want a pvp mode"

Because majority of the community thinks it's a horrible idea that would only come out of a prepubescent child's mind.

And because I think the OP is alone in his argument.

There's also a fat, ugly, child murderer supporting him. 

I won't name names though i ain't a snitch. 

if i had to guess i would say that it was the person that reveals themselves as a mysterious stranger.....

seriously, dont trust him he is a vagabond.

[xtorma]

Lastswarm wrote...

But there is a catch. People who don't want it. DON'T HAVE TO PLAY IT. The only reason we don't have a pvp mode is laziness from the developpers to try and balance classes over a pvp mindset. It's too hard. Better try to make money off ridiculous unnecessary dlc content. 

so you and your cronies can come into the forums and cry non stop about balance....no thanks. PvP should be designed before a game is created not after. There are plenty of pvp shooters out there, why mess with this one.

[Ratham]

xtorma wrote...

Lastswarm wrote...

But there is a catch. People who don't want it. DON'T HAVE TO PLAY IT. The only reason we don't have a pvp mode is laziness from the developpers to try and balance classes over a pvp mindset. It's too hard. Better try to make money off ridiculous unnecessary dlc content. 

so you and your cronies can come into the forums and cry non stop about balance....no thanks. PvP should be designed before a game is created not after. There are plenty of pvp shooters out there, why mess with this one.

...but.... people are already complaining about balance....

This character sucks..

This spec sucks..

This gun is better than that one...

Buff this gun.. nerf that one...

Modifié par Ratham, 10 avril 2012 - 12:20 .

[Aaperture]

Ratham wrote...

Aaperture wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Aaperture wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Lol @ all the anti pvpers, what are you afraid of? That youd get owned?

If you wouldnt like it, dont play it.

PvP stomps PvE into the ground all day, every day.

PvE is made to let you win, there is no challenge.

Go stroke your e-peen somewhere else. Not every game needs PvP.

If you don't like PvE, don't play it.

 PvE is made to let you win, there is no challenge. 

1/10 because you got me to reply. Troll harder.

Funny thing is I'm not trolling.

If you dont like PvP, dont play it.

I think you need to learn the meaning of "stroke your epeen" too.... I'm not here praising how "1337" i am...

You're clearly also an idiot. You're sitting here trying to tell me that PvE has no challange, or that everyone is afraid of getting 'owned' in PvP, yet somehow you aren't stroking your e-peen?

Do you even know what that means?

If you don't like PvE so much, then go play something else. This is a PvE game. Don't sit here and bash the game and request a horrible game-addition, then tell people who like the game to not play it and deal with it.

You retarded teenage ******.

My oh my.. more petty insults from a PVE-er...? Or as some like to claim the "peaceful" community.

I think we've just establish BOTH sides have those outliers that go off the deep end and blow up at people.

Im not even trying to flame/troll, just point out things / defend pvp .... yet I see thats NOT possible with this community.

Also, if the idea of pvp in Mass Effect bothers you so much, why did you even click on this thread?

My oh my.. more petty insults from a PVE-er...? Or as some like to claim the "peaceful" community. 

The community is generally docile. Notice how everyone is against you, the one that is trying go against the community?

 
Im not even trying to flame/troll, just point out things / defend pvp .... yet I see thats NOT possible with this community.  

No it isn't. If you had any sort of intelligence, you would notice the straggering, overwhelming factors against having PvP. If you don't like it, you're welcome to leave.

 
Also, if the idea of pvp in Mass Effect bothers you so much, why did you even click on this thread? 

Why did everybody else click on this thread? Simply because it bothers us so much. It's a terrible idea that would take too long to actually become viable, not to mention that there are much more pressing matters to deal with than to add a game mode that nobody wants.

You're out of 'arguements'. Now go be an idiot somewhere else.

Modifié par Aaperture, 10 avril 2012 - 12:26 .

[wolfstanus]

Serious reply in a troll thread? Isn't that trolling?

[Fresh Bamboo]

Ratham wrote...

Yes, because pvp is only thought about by prepubescent children....

The "majority" also didnt want multiplayer co-op either, it still happened.

Pvp in ME3 is what I was referring to,
You're trying to interpret my words in a different way so you can try to make me wrong.
Not working.


And you're saying that since people don't want pvp, it's still going to happen anyway?

[Ratham]

Aaperture wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Aaperture wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Aaperture wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Lol @ all the anti pvpers, what are you afraid of? That youd get owned?

If you wouldnt like it, dont play it.

PvP stomps PvE into the ground all day, every day.

PvE is made to let you win, there is no challenge.

Go stroke your e-peen somewhere else. Not every game needs PvP.

If you don't like PvE, don't play it.

 PvE is made to let you win, there is no challenge. 

1/10 because you got me to reply. Troll harder.

Funny thing is I'm not trolling.

If you dont like PvP, dont play it.

I think you need to learn the meaning of "stroke your epeen" too.... I'm not here praising how "1337" i am...

You're clearly also an idiot. You're sitting here trying to tell me that PvE has no challange, or that everyone is afraid of getting 'owned' in PvP, yet somehow you aren't stroking your e-peen?

Do you even know what that means?

If you don't like PvE so much, then go play something else. This is a PvE game. Don't sit here and bash the game and request a horrible game-addition, then tell people who like the game to not play it and deal with it.

You retarded teenage ******.

My oh my.. more petty insults from a PVE-er...? Or as some like to claim the "peaceful" community.

I think we've just establish BOTH sides have those outliers that go off the deep end and blow up at people.

Im not even trying to flame/troll, just point out things / defend pvp .... yet I see thats NOT possible with this community.

Also, if the idea of pvp in Mass Effect bothers you so much, why did you even click on this thread?

My oh my.. more petty insults from a PVE-er...? Or as some like to claim the "peaceful" community. 

The community is generally docile. Notice how everyone is against you, the one that is trying go against the community?

 
Im not even trying to flame/troll, just point out things / defend pvp .... yet I see thats NOT possible with this community.  

No it isn't. If you had any sort of itelligence, you would notice the straggering, overwhelming factors against having PvP. If you don't like it, you're welcome to leave.

 
Also, if the idea of pvp in Mass Effect bothers you so much, why did you even click on this thread? 

Why did everybody else click on this thread? Simply because it bothers us so much. It's a terrible idea that would take too long to actually become viable, not to mention that there are much more pressing matters to deal with than to add a game mode that nobody wants.

You're out of 'arguements'. Now go be an idiot somewhere else.

I like how you didnt analyze the part where I called you out on your insults toward me.

Is there a group of ME fans that want to see pvp? Yes, yes there is. Are they out numbered? Yes...but still there. does that make us "idiots" or "retards" because we'd like to see something different than the majority does...? No!

Grasping at emergency induction ports....

Modifié par Ratham, 10 avril 2012 - 12:26 .

[Greenhelm]

Lastswarm wrote...

1. - Lore is evolving
- People could play as reapers
- It could be an intergalactic "sport"
- lol, story as your first point

2. Yes, There would have to be tweaking to some classes. CC is easily taken care of with "trinkets" and Drs, Also - there's a way it dosen't affect your precious pve at all. Most decent programmers nowadays are able to completly negate the presence of hackers.

3. This game has a pretty small life lenght given it's single-player campaign focus. The multiplayer feels cheap and incompleted without a pvp component to it.

1. Playing as reapers....that's a joke right? To elaborate, the husks and cannibals are pretty weak, Banshees and Brutes would be too strong. Maurauder seems like the only one that would be balanced if you're fighting with even teams, besides even if it could be balanced there's no way it could be added to the game without coming up with a completely seperate expansion pack.
Sport. Lolwut?
Story is the main part of every BioWare game.

2. Tweaking is an understatement, classes would have to be reworked or completely nerfed to work in PVP.

3. Most people play through several times, and play when DLC is released. The shelf-life of Mass Effect is longer than most games, to me anyway.

I'm pretty PVP is not happening in this game...maybe if they release a prequel PVP would be possible. But I'm pretty sure BioWare won't even consider it.

Modifié par Greenhelm, 10 avril 2012 - 12:30 .

[Machazareel]

Ratham wrote...

Fresh Bamboo wrote...

 Thread title should really be changed to "I want a pvp mode"

Because majority of the community thinks it's a horrible idea that would only come out of a prepubescent child's mind.

And because I think the OP is alone in his argument.

Yes, because pvp is only thought about by prepubescent children....

The "majority" also didnt want multiplayer co-op either, it still happened.

I'm honestly a big fan of PvP. I've spent years on games like Starcraft, CoD, WoW, WAR etc etc mostly playing pvp. However, I feel that this game would be worse off if PvP was implemented. The current game mechanics don't support PvP combat, and it would really break the lore of the game, something Bioware has stated that they want to maintain.

[Ratham]

Machazareel wrote...

Ratham wrote...

Fresh Bamboo wrote...

 Thread title should really be changed to "I want a pvp mode"

Because majority of the community thinks it's a horrible idea that would only come out of a prepubescent child's mind.

And because I think the OP is alone in his argument.

Yes, because pvp is only thought about by prepubescent children....

The "majority" also didnt want multiplayer co-op either, it still happened.

I'm honestly a big fan of PvP. I've spent years on games like Starcraft, CoD, WoW, WAR etc etc mostly playing pvp. However, I feel that this game would be worse off if PvP was implemented. The current game mechanics don't support PvP combat, and it would really break the lore of the game, something Bioware has stated that they want to maintain.

Oh I'm not trying to say they need to add it to Mass Effect 3 specifically... but other titles down the road, why not?

Could use geth / cerberus / reaper mobs as the "other team" or whoever the new "bad guy" is down the road.

Goes back to if it gets added and some dont like it, dont participate in that part of the game.

Should story / single player come first in Mass Effect? Yes, thats what its been about. But why not expand the multiplayer in future titles?

/shrug

Modifié par Ratham, 10 avril 2012 - 12:29 .