Ashley Deleted Scene
#51
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:11
#52
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:11
taliefer wrote...
woulda been great scene. biowares artistic integrity kept them from putting it in because they didnt want to be accused of saying there is no afterlife and pissing alot of people off.
damn that artistic integrity... first it ruins the endings, now this... when will its madness stop??
#53
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:11
This is the type of thing that would actually lead to interesting speculation. Shepard not remembering anything during that time would give people something to wonder. Maybe there is nothing, but maybe we just aren't meant to know. Stuff like that is where speculation would be ok.
#54
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:12
You know what, I had imagined that exact kind of question coming from Liara in my own head canon. In some of my own scripts, I have Liara asking Shepard questions about human religions coming from an earlier discussion about Ashley (my canon Shepard saved Kaidan on Virmire and Ashley died of course). Liara knew that Ashley was a religious person, and she (Liara) is curious, she wants to know what Shepard specifically thought of religion in general.
After some time during the discussion Liara does come up with the question: « Tell me, Shepard, do you remember anything from before you woke up at the Cerberus labs? », my Shepard replies « I remember being spaced out, air leaking out of my helmet, lots of pain and couldn't breath, I was panicking... », then Liara asks « My mother always spoke about a supposed light, I think humans also refer to something similar when they speak of near-death experiences », to which Shepard replies « I can't remember anything about a light but... it's vague, I'm not sure, I think I heard voices, it might have been the personnel at the Cerberus labs »
Anyway, I find it amazing that out of coincidence I made a discussion around the same subject (after-life, what Shepard saw or can remember, etc). I guess that fan-fiction isn't necessarily always that far from what the writer(s) at BioWare can sometimes think about. In any case, they should have kept that scene.
Modifié par Lyrandori, 10 avril 2012 - 02:13 .
#55
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:12
Modifié par Purple People Eater, 10 avril 2012 - 02:13 .
#56
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:12
ZerebusPrime wrote...
.....would it be over the top to ask them to stick that back in?
Not at all... tweet Weekes and politely ask him to reinsert the scene!
#57
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:12
#58
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:14
kidbd15 wrote...
ZerebusPrime wrote...
.....would it be over the top to ask them to stick that back in?
Not at all... tweet Weekes and politely ask him to reinsert the scene!
Do it, and let the English see ya do it.
#59
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:14
I can only imagine how incredible this game would've been with the resources to continue development until Q4 of 2012.
#60
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:14
#61
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Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:14
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#62
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:14
Lyrandori wrote...
Wow ok.
You know what, I had imagined that exact kind of question coming from Liara in my own head canon. In some of my own scripts, I have Liara asking Shepard questions about human religions coming from an earlier discussion about Ashley (my canon Shepard saved Kaidan on Virmire and Ashley died of course). Liara knew that Ashley was a religious person, and she (Liara) is curious, she wants to know what Shepard specifically thought of religion in general.
After some time during the discussion Liara does come up with the question: « Tell me, Shepard, do you remember anything from before you woke up at the Cerberus labs? », my Shepard replies « I remember being spaced out, air leaking out of my helmet, lots of pain and couldn't breath, I was panicking... », then Liara asks « My mother always spoke about a supposed light, I think humans also refer to something similar when they speak of near-death experiences », to which Shepard replies « I can't remember anything about a light but... it's vague, I'm not sure, I think I heard voices, it might have been the personnel at the Cerberus labs »
Anyway, I find it amazing that out of coincidence I made a discussion around the same subject (after-life, what Shepard saw or can remember, etc). I guess that fan-fiction isn't necessarily always that far from what the writer(s) at BioWare can sometimes think about. In any case, they should have kept that scene.
Ash, Liara, James, heck EDI could have asked that it would still have been awesome.
Works best for Ash because she has almost no Normandy dialogue atm anyway.
Modifié par iakus, 10 avril 2012 - 02:15 .
#63
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:15
#64
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:15
Tom Lehrer wrote...
Can I trade in multiplayer for this scene?
I would gladly trade multiplayer AND Diana Allers for this scene.
Also EDI's ******.
#65
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:16
Lyrandori wrote...
Wow ok.
You know what, I had imagined that exact kind of question coming from Liara in my own head canon. In some of my own scripts, I have Liara asking Shepard questions about human religions coming from an earlier discussion about Ashley (my canon Shepard saved Kaidan on Virmire and Ashley died of course). Liara knew that Ashley was a religious person, and she (Liara) is curious, she wants to know what Shepard specifically thought of religion in general.
After some time during the discussion Liara does come up with the question: « Tell me, Shepard, do you remember anything from before you woke up at the Cerberus labs? », my Shepard replies « I remember being spaced out, air leaking out of my helmet, lots of pain and couldn't breath, I was panicking... », then Liara asks « My mother always spoke about a supposed light, I think humans also refer to something similar when they speak of near-death experiences », to which Shepard replies « I can't remember anything about a light but... it's vague, I'm not sure, I think I heard voices, it might have been the personnel at the Cerberus labs »
Anyway, I find it amazing that out of coincidence I made a discussion around the same subject (after-life, what Shepard saw or can remember, etc). I guess that fan-fiction isn't necessarily always that far from what the writer(s) at BioWare can sometimes think about.
Bioware obviously goes out of its way to avoid these questions, at least in ME. And it's understandable --- some people still think of Ashley as a fundemalist wackjob because she said she believed in God. Even talking about the issue is a no-win game for them.
#66
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:17
davidt0504 wrote...
http://www.reddit.co...3_script_using/
Why did they cut such a great scene?
Really gives a great insight into the Shepard character.
Someone was on the weed I think when they cut that...
#67
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:18
#68
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:18
#69
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:20
What an amazing scene. More artistic than the ending....
#70
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:22
#71
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:22
#72
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:24
RELIGION RAGE?!
It's seriously the most in-depth Shepard gets about himself, ever, in the trilogy. It's also great insight on Ash's character (makes sense as she's quite religious), and her acceptance of Shepard as he is now. That last line literally gave me chills.
DAMNIT. PLEASE PUT IT BACK IN! EXTENDED CUTS CAN GO IN PLACES OTHER THAN THE ENDING.
#73
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:24
edit: I also don't think they wanted to have Ash questioning her beliefs
Modifié par Coachdongwiffle, 10 avril 2012 - 02:26 .
#74
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Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:25
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#75
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 02:26
Coachdongwiffle wrote...
yeah I can see why they cut it...first it does cut to the core of religon and it's not really for Bioware to say what somebody who died really saw or not. I would of liked the scene but I can see why they went away from it
I think the scene takes great pains not to make a statement on religion one way or another. He says he can't remember and they both conclude Ash won't get any answer from this example.





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