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[kookman]

wow that was a great scene should have been in the game for sure

[sporeian]

Great emotional scene

would've like to see development of faith in god for Shepard if he/she believes in him (Remember the question when talking to Ash in ME1?). Would be interesting to see those two connect, especially if you romanced her.

[trobbins777]

Icesong wrote...

My Ashley is dead and I wouldn't romance her if she wasn't, but I'd be glad all these emotions that don't fit my Shepard weren't forced on me.

Emotions? He's answering ash's question and I think every Shepard is a little disturbed by the question of "Am i still the same commander Shepard since my ressurection?" If of course Cerberus told the truth and shepard isn't really some sort of Artificial intelligence.

[lordofdogtown19]

iJody wrote...

Wow, add for Extended Cut please?

right? that was pretty deep. Even though I didn't romance Ashley I'd still like to see that

[Ghostano]

Doomhams wrote...

And, putting this scene in and holding ground against any outcry for removal would be artistic integrity of the good kind.

 I just do not see anyone asking to have it removed. It would if anything give people a chance to ask something they were thinking. Not sure if it makes sense but even though shapard is our chacter it would be one time we could get to ask a question of him. I think alot of people ttalked about how shapard never seemed to act like dying effected him.

 I also think it adds to ashely's chacter and would pefer this over star child anyday. I think it was more of lack of space on disk or time. I thought the whole point was to show diversity and in a way I think they did a good job on that till the end of the game.

 That be my 2 cents and I think it cost what 3 bucks to make those 2 pennies can I have the changeB)

[Giantdeathrobot]

Yeah, that's a great scene. Ashley of all people would want to know about that. Hell I'm surprised more people don't realize that Shepard, you know, was friggin ressurected. He was clinically brain-dead, yet back in shape he is.

[magneticpolarshift]

I couldn't understand why there were no dialogue scenes with Ash on the normandy, being from ME1 and missing out on her in ME2 she should have had a lot to say. It definitely irked me.I haven't watched the video I'm hoping it will come out in a DLC I'd like to be surprised, but as good as people are saying it is I can't comprehend why they would take it out.

Not only that, but this was a question that was never asked of him in ME2 which boggled my mind. Oh hey you were brought back from the dead? That's pretty cool, anyways want to go grab a beer? It's definitely something that Ash, Garrus, Tali, Liara or heck even Wrex would have talked to him about. 

Modifié par magneticpolarshift, 10 avril 2012 - 02:56 .

[Ram2thez]

Wow that was a good scene, wish it had stayed in the game... They could've ran with it and added him actually see something but keep it as a secret. Like how Sam Witwicky when he died he spoke to the primes and such, could've done something like that but with a very old race, one of the first to fight the Reapers. Oh well we will never know of the true potential!

[humansrsuperior]

Aww, I wish they'd kept this. Cause yeah, Shep dying is a pretty big deal.

[Slash1667]

iakus wrote...

Lyrandori wrote...

Wow ok.

You know what, I had imagined that exact kind of question coming from Liara in my own head canon. In some of my own scripts, I have Liara asking Shepard questions about human religions coming from an earlier discussion about Ashley (my canon Shepard saved Kaidan on Virmire and Ashley died of course). Liara knew that Ashley was a religious person, and she (Liara) is curious, she wants to know what Shepard specifically thought of religion in general.

After some time during the discussion Liara does come up with the question: « Tell me, Shepard, do you remember anything from before you woke up at the Cerberus labs? », my Shepard replies « I remember being spaced out, air leaking out of my helmet, lots of pain and couldn't breath, I was panicking... », then Liara asks « My mother always spoke about a supposed light, I think humans also refer to something similar when they speak of near-death experiences », to which Shepard replies « I can't remember anything about a light but... it's vague, I'm not sure, I think I heard voices, it might have been the personnel at the Cerberus labs »

Anyway, I find it amazing that out of coincidence I made a discussion around the same subject (after-life, what Shepard saw or can remember, etc). I guess that fan-fiction isn't necessarily always that far from what the writer(s) at BioWare can sometimes think about. In any case, they should have kept that scene.

Ash, Liara, James, heck EDI could have asked that it would still have been awesome.

Works best for Ash because she has almost no Normandy dialogue atm anyway.

It would have been appropriate for any of the squadmates. It works best for Ash, or possibly Thane, because they are religous/spiritual people.

[Colancio]

Why they cut the best parts ? why ...

This conversation, the anderson conversation at the end telling shep to have kids... so touching moments ruined cutting them off...

Modifié par Colancio, 10 avril 2012 - 02:55 .

[chidingewe8036]

hey you guys the stupid a** addition of multiplayer to please alot of the fan base i am sure cut alot of great moments from the game like hmmmm THE ENDING and also Liara got the meat of the scenes but again that is all because of fan base love. lol now everyone is complaining their chosen love interest did not see enough time like Liara did, well have you seen Liara's threads? i mean come on be careful what you wish for. I love Liara and stuff but your not going to see my user name on any of her fan love threads no way, same goes for Garrus and Tali i mean come on guys can you give the other squad members that kind of love? gees lol

[Icesong]

Eli Parker wrote...

Icesong wrote...

My
Ashley is dead and I wouldn't romance her if she wasn't, but I'd be glad
all these emotions that don't fit my Shepard weren't forced on me.

In game Shepard is meant to be you (the player), so if
you died and then somehow you come back to life you wouldn't question
what happens after death? Or would you be just fine knowing that you
died and came back to life?

My Shepard would be just fine, yes. I would like a scene or two that goes into the fact that you died and how you feel about it, but it'd have to be scenes where you could choose and not be railroaded into it.

trobbins777 wrote...

Icesong wrote...

My Ashley is dead and I wouldn't romance her if she wasn't, but I'd be glad all these emotions that don't fit my Shepard weren't forced on me.

Emotions? He's answering ash's question and I think every Shepard is a little disturbed by the question of "Am i still the same commander Shepard since my ressurection?" If of course Cerberus told the truth and shepard isn't really some sort of Artificial intelligence.

Yeah, emotions. I'm not pejoratively saying he's being emotional or anything. But he is expressing his feelings on it and what I read didn't mesh with my Shepard's.

[Eli Parker]

Somebody should ask Jessica Merizan why the death of Shepard was never truely talked about in ME2 and ME3.

[DasHamburglar]

i wonder if bioware is just trying to ruin this game. the day one dlc didn't even ****** me off, but the ending, not even releasing alternative endings (you can keep your artistic integrity with the old endings, but please the fans WHO PUT MONEY IN YOUR POCKET), and cutting out good parts like this for what? why would you remove this? I loved mass effect, but i will never buy another bioware game again.

[Slash1667]

Coachdongwiffle wrote...

yeah I can see why they cut it...first it does cut to the core of religon and it's not really for Bioware to say what somebody who died really saw or not. I would of liked the scene but I can see why they went away from it.

edit: I also don't think they wanted to have Ash questioning her beliefs 

It doesn't cut to the core of anything. THIS is the kind of ambiguity I have absolutely no problem with.

[TeffexPope]

Lots of ignorance here, as is usual with the internet and matters of god and faith. But yes, this was a good scene. It seems they prefereed that we press A fifty times to get dialogue out of characters, rather than the usual dialogue wheel. Shame they let the ME2 DLC squadmates' dialogue become much more prevalent than it was.

Modifié par TeffexPope, 10 avril 2012 - 02:57 .

[Dranks]

That was AMAZING. Why did you cut it, Bioware? Why? It would have made my romance with her something more than a few stock filler lines on the crew deck.

[Eli Parker]

Icesong wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

Icesong wrote...

My
Ashley is dead and I wouldn't romance her if she wasn't, but I'd be glad
all these emotions that don't fit my Shepard weren't forced on me.

In game Shepard is meant to be you (the player), so if
you died and then somehow you come back to life you wouldn't question
what happens after death? Or would you be just fine knowing that you
died and came back to life?

My Shepard would be just fine, yes. I would like a scene or two that goes into the fact that you died and how you feel about it, but it'd have to be scenes where you could choose and not be railroaded into it.

trobbins777 wrote...

Icesong wrote...

My Ashley is dead and I wouldn't romance her if she wasn't, but I'd be glad all these emotions that don't fit my Shepard weren't forced on me.

Emotions? He's answering ash's question and I think every Shepard is a little disturbed by the question of "Am i still the same commander Shepard since my ressurection?" If of course Cerberus told the truth and shepard isn't really some sort of Artificial intelligence.

Yeah, emotions. I'm not pejoratively saying he's being emotional or anything. But he is expressing his feelings on it and what I read didn't mesh with my Shepard's.

I would think that if in game Bioware should have then a Dialog wheel:
Darkness/Nothingness/ or I don't remember
I was seeing my past
It was like a dream of happness
It was like nightmare I never could leave
I was trapped reliving my life over and over.

[SamT3N7]

sporeian wrote...

Great emotional scene

would've like to see development of faith in god for Shepard if he/she believes in him (Remember the question when talking to Ash in ME1?). Would be interesting to see those two connect, especially if you romanced her.

They should've flagged your response to Ash in ME1 about what Shepard believes.  I think they realized that some roleplay with their Shepard and telling Ashley "I don't think I should be answering questions about YOUR belief."
would have set them off.  I agree that characters connecting through faith would be awesome.

[Ultra Prism]

cool but as Shepard is based on us ... i guess they were not sure to add this ... damn why did they waste time on this instead focusing more on making better endings lol

[Silent Rage]

The more stuff people find the more I get disappointed with the game.

[RogueBot]

Wow! Amazing dialogue. I'd been waiting for someone to ask Shepard that question myself. I love Shepard's response to Ashley and vice versa.

THAT is what we needed from Ashley in ME3.

[MrDavid]

Extended Cut Bioware, make it happen!
Who's with me?

[chidingewe8036]

Everyone got screwed except Liara end of story lol.....sucks I know

Harbinger says "this hurts you"