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[Atheosis]

Some strange results going on there. Way too many people seem to be voting god tier for mediocre classes.

[GodlessPaladin]

What do you expect when there are no criteria to guide judgment? For all we know people are voting "god tier" for a class because it's their "favorite."

[Makko Mace]

Yeah.... idk about this system, but it seems to be generally correct, nothing has a majority in anything it really shouldn't.

[Atheosis]

To be fair the results on a lot of the polls are actually fairly reasonable, the Turian Sentinel poll and few others are just bizarre.

[Atheosis]

Maybe I'm just clueless but my personal experience with the Vorcha Sentinel class didn't scream A tier to me. Can someone explain how people are making that conclusion? Is it the Reegar/Flamer glitch? If so, that really isn't a feature of the class, it's a bug.

[Makko Mace]

Atheosis wrote...

Maybe I'm just clueless but my personal experience with the Vorcha Sentinel class didn't scream A tier to me. Can someone explain how people are making that conclusion? Is it the Reegar/Flamer glitch? If so, that really isn't a feature of the class, it's a bug.

Because it's the same as the Soldier, only you don't have to worry about cool down, I run mine with a Kyrsae and a Claymore XD

But seriously, you cannot die to normal troopers, and you can kill 2/3s the armor of an atlas on gold with 4 seconds of flamer.

Modifié par Makko Mace, 06 juin 2012 - 03:19 .

[Looper128]

I just love how many votes we goten so far! Keep on voting ppl, I will let this run a week or so then we need to discuss exactly how to count the votes.

[mpompeo27]

Atheosis wrote...

Maybe I'm just clueless but my personal experience with the Vorcha Sentinel class didn't scream A tier to me. Can someone explain how people are making that conclusion? Is it the Reegar/Flamer glitch? If so, that really isn't a feature of the class, it's a bug.

1) Health regen.
2) Best dodge in the game.
3) Cluster nades synergize w/ biotic and tech teammates to set off BE's and tech bursts. Can also set off its own fire explosions.
4) No cooldown consideration needed. Can carry whatever weapons desired.
5) Ultimate Banshee troll. The Banshee's Warp attack legitimately cannot kill you even with only the baseline Bloodlust regen b4 getting any stacks. Brutes and Ravagers are also very trivial for them.
6) Fast melee that can easily be chained.

If your experience with the Vorcha has been poor, the most likely explanation is you are not utilizing the Vorcha dodge to its fullest potential.

Like many others, I find the results of some of these polls to be quite surprising, but most of them are exactly as I expected and in line with how I voted.

Modifié par mpompeo27, 06 juin 2012 - 07:27 .

[Atheosis]

mpompeo27 wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

Maybe I'm just clueless but my personal experience with the Vorcha Sentinel class didn't scream A tier to me. Can someone explain how people are making that conclusion? Is it the Reegar/Flamer glitch? If so, that really isn't a feature of the class, it's a bug.

1) Health regen.
2) Best dodge in the game.
3) Cluster nades synergize w/ biotic and tech teammates to set off BE's and tech bursts. Can also set off its own fire explosions.
4) No cooldown consideration needed. Can carry whatever weapons desired.
5) Ultimate Banshee troll. The Banshee's Warp attack legitimately cannot kill you even with only the baseline Bloodlust regen b4 getting any stacks. Brutes and Ravagers are also very trivial for them.
6) Fast melee that can easily be chained.

If your experience with the Vorcha has been poor, the most likely explanation is you are not utilizing the Vorcha dodge to its fullest potential.

Like many others, I find the results of some of these polls to be quite surprising, but most of them are exactly as I expected and in line with how I voted.

Oh I didn't say my experience was poor or that it was a bad class.  I'm just not getting the A tier voters.  Seems like a B tier class through and through to me.

[spudspot]

Lopper128 wrote...

I just love how many votes we goten so far! Keep on voting ppl, I will let this run a week or so then we need to discuss exactly how to count the votes.

Why not just do it like this:

God Tier = 1 Point
A Tier = 2 Points
.
.
.
E Tier = 6 Points

And then build an average over all votes that were cast for the character. For example the Human Adept has received the following votes:

God Tier x1  = 1 Point
A Tier x5      = 10 Points
B Tier x12    = 36 Points
C Tier x18    = 72 Points
D Tier x18    = 90 Points
E Tier x13    = 78 Points
___________________
Total            = 287 Points

Which is an average of 4.28 Points with a standard deviation of 1.26 Points, which "means" C Tier. In comparison, the Geth Infiltrator gets an average of 1.39 Points with a standard deviation of 0.88 Points. Conclusion? First the GI seems to be considered better (average), second there is more consensus about that (standard deviation).  I'd really like to see all the classes ranked like this.

Modifié par spudspot, 07 juin 2012 - 12:53 .

[spudspot]

Bump for more votes.

[mpompeo27]

Atheosis wrote...

mpompeo27 wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

Maybe I'm just clueless but my personal experience with the Vorcha Sentinel class didn't scream A tier to me. Can someone explain how people are making that conclusion? Is it the Reegar/Flamer glitch? If so, that really isn't a feature of the class, it's a bug.

1) Health regen.
2) Best dodge in the game.
3) Cluster nades synergize w/ biotic and tech teammates to set off BE's and tech bursts. Can also set off its own fire explosions.
4) No cooldown consideration needed. Can carry whatever weapons desired.
5) Ultimate Banshee troll. The Banshee's Warp attack legitimately cannot kill you even with only the baseline Bloodlust regen b4 getting any stacks. Brutes and Ravagers are also very trivial for them.
6) Fast melee that can easily be chained.

If your experience with the Vorcha has been poor, the most likely explanation is you are not utilizing the Vorcha dodge to its fullest potential.

Like many others, I find the results of some of these polls to be quite surprising, but most of them are exactly as I expected and in line with how I voted.

Oh I didn't say my experience was poor or that it was a bad class.  I'm just not getting the A tier voters.  Seems like a B tier class through and through to me.

Well I am one of those A tier voters. and those 6 reasons would be the short version of my explanation. The long version of my explanation would definitely be tl;dr

Modifié par mpompeo27, 07 juin 2012 - 06:46 .

[Looper128]

@spudspot thanks for your suggestion on how to count the votes. =)

If other ppl also have suggestion on how to count the votes when the time comes feel free to post them. I will make sure to collect them all for discussion.