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[Dridengx]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

I can haz rage?

How about a rage cupcake? :innocent:

long as I can I give it to charity 

Modifié par Dridengx, 10 avril 2012 - 05:58 .

[FabricatedWookie]

Juromaro wrote...

He4vyMet4l wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Speaking up is one thing, but this? This is a horse of another color -- a dead one at that.

Obviously it's not dead. I can't understand why this thread is full of you people...

Because if I were to make a thread showing support for the endings it would be full of "you" people.

so there is a reverse relationship in thread topics. Instead of those who support a thread topic, it will instead be populated by those that oppose the topic?

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Modifié par Blood-Lord Thanatos, 10 avril 2012 - 05:58 .

[D00m580]

Obviously ME3 ending is the main problem humanity faces at the start of 21 century. You guys blaming bioware for betraying what they used to stand for, take a closer look at yourselves. What started out as a nice and reasonable initiative turned into outright idiocy.

[FabricatedWookie]

tenojitsu wrote...

Billboards? Really? Do you guys have "hold the line" tattoos also? I dont think the ending is on par with the rest of the series either, but you guys are obsessed at this point. Do you put this much time and effort into anything in real life, or just the land of make believe?

I have a bedazzler dedicated to retake ME gear :3

[AtreiyaN7]

*sees this again*
*thinks people have truly gone off the deep end*

[Dude_in_the_Room]

He4vyMet4l wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Speaking up is one thing, but this? This is a horse of another color -- a dead one at that.

Obviously it's not dead. I can't understand why this thread is full of you people...

Bioware > "Heres the game hope you like it"

Retake > "We hate it, we're pitching a fit until we get a new ending"

Bioware > "Sorry, no new ending"


Seems a bit dead to me.

Modifié par Dude_in_the_Room, 10 avril 2012 - 06:01 .

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

*sees this again*
*thinks people have truly gone off the deep end*

It's like Yogg-Saron or C'thun got in here.

[FabricatedWookie]

D00m580 wrote...

Obviously ME3 ending is the main problem humanity faces at the start of 21 century. You guys blaming bioware for betraying what they used to stand for, take a closer look at yourselves. What started out as a nice and reasonable initiative turned into outright idiocy.

With what? One person's idea? Is it reasonable to claim this paints the whole collection of people as unreasonable?

[LegendaryBlade]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

John Epler wrote...

Hey guess what?

Calling people 'retarded' wins you a ban.

what about mentally ill and in need of counciling?

That's a good point, how well articulated someone is with demeaning insults should have no bearing on whether or not they get a ban.

I don't like to comment on moderation(and don't plan to make it a habit), I understand it's not my position. It is my opinion that a few people here deserve at least a warning though.

Councelling to get over disappointment is a valid way to spend money.

This is my exact point, I don't know if you saw my last post. Where I bolded every insult, accusitory, and assuming part of it, but it encapsilated a large portion of your post. Insulting people gets no where, and you know very well that's what you're doing. Just because it's snarky, doesn't mean it isn't an insult.

You get away with it because you're being coy, but you're doing the exact same thing anybody else getting banned for calling someone a retard is.

[RukiaKuchki]

Pathetic. Get a grip on reality.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Koju737 wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I don't get it with you people.
What is it that affects you so much that you have to argue, criticize
and constantly fight with the Retakers? If you want your endings so
badly go ahead and keep them, let us have ours we're not stopping you
from keeping your endings. I'm sure everyone would be fine with getting
alternate endings instead of a complete rewrite. 

You people
argue and criticize us for nothing, I just don't get it. What is it that
you are defending? "Artistic integrity"? BioWare's pride? EA? The
future of gaming? 

If you have nothing to say but instead just
want to criticize, argue and insult without a reason then don't waste
your time, go enjoy Mass Effect 3 and its endings, I'm sure you'll do
yourself and everyone else a favor. 

I'm not arguing,infact, the quote you took this from was to someone I was agreeing with. You realized that right? it doesn't help your point at all lol. If I want my endings? they were never mine, they were Bioware's. You don't have an ending and never will. I think you have been living under a rock for the last 5 weeks sir, your side is the aggressive one just like you are being confrontational with me atm lol.

I do enjoy how you tell me not to waste my time, but your side has spent much much more complaining and fighting every article, every company, and every pro ender since launch

Yes go ahead and deflect my questions. At least we have a reason to fight, like I said you people argue over nothing, so what if we get a DLC. How does it affect you? So what if we fight EA and BioWare? How does it affect you? Like I said before, you people have no reasons to argue, we do. EA and BioWare lied about what we were getting, I'm pretty sure you've seen all the evidence, all the dev quotes, whatever. You can't say we're complaining over nothing. 

Koju737 wrote...
I knew when this "movement" was announced I knew it was gonna be bad. "Retake Mass effect"? If that absurd name doesn't define "entitled" I don't know what does. 

Let me remind you about what you agreed with, this quote which is nothing more than an insult but what else can be expected from someone like you and don't bother saying that you do not argue because I've seen your posts and I know that everything you say is either insults or arguing with us about your so called "points". For the record if I recall correctly, it was the pro-enders who began arguing with us not the other way around. Think about it logically, why would we argue with them, there's no reason for that since it gets us nowhere, something that we apparently know better than you do. 

If you're going to insult at least have a valid reason to do so, otherwise everyone will think you're just a troll, in fact I think everybody thinks that already. 

My "posts"? What posts? I hardly ever post on this site and I dont think Ive ever really argued with anyone other than right now I suppose and never attempted to make any "points" as you call it. Im mainly just a lirker for the most part and for good reason. Theres a reason why the BSN has a stigma for being a hub for whiners. Any time someone would say "hey I liked the ending" some smart ass would come in and say "so you like plot holes and crap writing?" And then chastised for not wasting the time to write a drawn out wall of text explaining why. Sure theres smack-talking from both sides, Im not denying that, but whoever "started it" is completely irrelevant. As far as this debacle is concerned Im just calling like it is. If someone is willing to spend thousands of dollars to put up a billboard campaign to change the ending to a video game they seriously need to get their priorites straight. And its going to be shown in the media for exactly what it is. Entitlement. And all the people who are actually handling this in a mature manner are going to be grouped up with these guys. Its not right.

        And you know what gets me? None of this matters. At all. Its a mundane, inconsequential problem that Bioware has been kind enough to address.Theres nothing wrong with voicing your opinons on the ending but people are blowing this way out of proportion. If its bad enough for you to go through all this trouble then theres one very simple solution to this ending issue.

Play something that you actually enjoy.

Not referring to you but the person who quoted you but go ahead and say whatever you want, in the end it doesn't really matter to me I made my point anyways. 

[Kanner]

You can't solve big problems until you've learned to solve little problems. This is a great chance for people to try poking around with the nuts and bolts of a corporation's sensibilities in a more or less consequence free environment (since retake is based on civil, and certainly legal, respect).

I'm not going to donate money but I'm highly entertained and delighted by this. =)

[Drake_Hound]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

He4vyMet4l wrote...

All you nay sayers are the kind of people who would rather take it up the a** than speak up, it seems.
If you can't see that then I suggest you think really good about why you're posting here. You can disagree all you want, but for the right reasons, not because it's funny or stupid.

I'm getting into politics here, but every cause is just, no matter it's significance.

This idea took stupidity to a whole new level. Don't expect anything less in response.

If you hate how people are having a go at you in here, you try this pathetic stunt and the media and rest of the gaming public will rip you a new one as far as insults and negativity. Many of retakers are also turning against you on this, it has gone to far and you have crossed the line so much so that in both threads in both sections it is 9 to 1 (against vs for) with regard to disliking this ridiculous idea compared to those who like or back it. Take the hint already.

Spend your money better on councelling because you will gain more positive reaction and consequence than will do with this childish idea. Take a step back and look at the big picture here, it doesn't take much of a distance need to go back to see how bad this is.

Counceling is for people who need it and is good people who take there medications .
It stimulate the phaumarcy industry .
Sadly I do not need counceling , and I do need postive reactions .. cause am a REALIST .
You know somebody who see the world as realistic , realisme is not negative .
IF people took a step back and look at the big picture ...
And play the game with no emotional attachement , then the game was fine !

Not even need to give a alternate extended ending .
But wait for a game which the desginers are famous for making emotional commitment , the feeling of character progression and choices .
You want to say that I am negative , cause If I take a step back , then I should watch the walktrough videos on youtube , instead of playing the game .
Cause I don´t need to make choices , I do not need to play the game , I might as well watch somebody else play .
Cause the ending is the same .

But wait so you are saying you have no emotional attachement to your shepard ?
So basically we as whinners thus the game industry call us , should not love a game or a company enough to care , but just move on to the next game ?
Infact it is that we care that people are willing to do stupid things .
That makes no sense for others , but for themself it makes very big sense of purpose .
IF the world is run by your kind and in the future it will be , then forget it  sharks around every cornor .

[FabricatedWookie]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

He4vyMet4l wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Speaking up is one thing, but this? This is a horse of another color -- a dead one at that.

Obviously it's not dead. I can't understand why this thread is full of you people...

Bioware > "Heres the game hope you like it"

Retake > "We hate it, we're pitching a fit until we get a new ending"

Bioware > "Sorry, no new ending"


Seems a bit dead to me.

Bioware > "Heres the game we promised you"

Retake > "The ending makes this game not the one you promised us"

Bioware > "Sorry, no new ending, but we will expand it"

Retake > "Sorry, not good enough"

I like changing words to change their intent and tone

[Ethical]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

John Epler wrote...

Hey guess what?

Calling people 'retarded' wins you a ban.

what about mentally ill and in need of counciling?

That's a good point, how well articulated someone is with demeaning insults should have no bearing on whether or not they get a ban.

I don't like to comment on moderation(and don't plan to make it a habit), I understand it's not my position. It is my opinion that a few people here deserve at least a warning though.

Councelling to get over disappointment is a valid way to spend money.

Capitalism, anything is a valid way to spend money.

[Koju737]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Koju737 wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I don't get it with you people.
What is it that affects you so much that you have to argue, criticize
and constantly fight with the Retakers? If you want your endings so
badly go ahead and keep them, let us have ours we're not stopping you
from keeping your endings. I'm sure everyone would be fine with getting
alternate endings instead of a complete rewrite. 

You people
argue and criticize us for nothing, I just don't get it. What is it that
you are defending? "Artistic integrity"? BioWare's pride? EA? The
future of gaming? 

If you have nothing to say but instead just
want to criticize, argue and insult without a reason then don't waste
your time, go enjoy Mass Effect 3 and its endings, I'm sure you'll do
yourself and everyone else a favor. 

I'm not arguing,infact, the quote you took this from was to someone I was agreeing with. You realized that right? it doesn't help your point at all lol. If I want my endings? they were never mine, they were Bioware's. You don't have an ending and never will. I think you have been living under a rock for the last 5 weeks sir, your side is the aggressive one just like you are being confrontational with me atm lol.

I do enjoy how you tell me not to waste my time, but your side has spent much much more complaining and fighting every article, every company, and every pro ender since launch

Yes go ahead and deflect my questions. At least we have a reason to fight, like I said you people argue over nothing, so what if we get a DLC. How does it affect you? So what if we fight EA and BioWare? How does it affect you? Like I said before, you people have no reasons to argue, we do. EA and BioWare lied about what we were getting, I'm pretty sure you've seen all the evidence, all the dev quotes, whatever. You can't say we're complaining over nothing. 

Koju737 wrote...
I knew when this "movement" was announced I knew it was gonna be bad. "Retake Mass effect"? If that absurd name doesn't define "entitled" I don't know what does. 

Let me remind you about what you agreed with, this quote which is nothing more than an insult but what else can be expected from someone like you and don't bother saying that you do not argue because I've seen your posts and I know that everything you say is either insults or arguing with us about your so called "points". For the record if I recall correctly, it was the pro-enders who began arguing with us not the other way around. Think about it logically, why would we argue with them, there's no reason for that since it gets us nowhere, something that we apparently know better than you do. 

If you're going to insult at least have a valid reason to do so, otherwise everyone will think you're just a troll, in fact I think everybody thinks that already. 

My "posts"? What posts? I hardly ever post on this site and I dont think Ive ever really argued with anyone other than right now I suppose and never attempted to make any "points" as you call it. Im mainly just a lirker for the most part and for good reason. Theres a reason why the BSN has a stigma for being a hub for whiners. Any time someone would say "hey I liked the ending" some smart ass would come in and say "so you like plot holes and crap writing?" And then chastised for not wasting the time to write a drawn out wall of text explaining why. Sure theres smack-talking from both sides, Im not denying that, but whoever "started it" is completely irrelevant. As far as this debacle is concerned Im just calling like it is. If someone is willing to spend thousands of dollars to put up a billboard campaign to change the ending to a video game they seriously need to get their priorites straight. And its going to be shown in the media for exactly what it is. Entitlement. And all the people who are actually handling this in a mature manner are going to be grouped up with these guys. Its not right.

        And you know what gets me? None of this matters. At all. Its a mundane, inconsequential problem that Bioware has been kind enough to address.Theres nothing wrong with voicing your opinons on the ending but people are blowing this way out of proportion. If its bad enough for you to go through all this trouble then theres one very simple solution to this ending issue.

Play something that you actually enjoy.

Not referring to you but the person who quoted you but go ahead and say whatever you want, in the end it doesn't really matter to me I made my point anyways. 

Oh sorry I didnt catch that. I apologize for the hostility. 

[Dragoonlordz]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

John Epler wrote...

Hey guess what?

Calling people 'retarded' wins you a ban.

what about mentally ill and in need of counciling?

That's a good point, how well articulated someone is with demeaning insults should have no bearing on whether or not they get a ban.

I don't like to comment on moderation(and don't plan to make it a habit), I understand it's not my position. It is my opinion that a few people here deserve at least a warning though.

Councelling to get over disappointment is a valid way to spend money.

This is my exact point, I don't know if you saw my last post. Where I bolded every insult, accusitory, and assuming part of it, but it encapsilated a large portion of your post. Insulting people gets no where, and you know very well that's what you're doing. Just because it's snarky, doesn't mean it isn't an insult.

You get away with it because you're being coy, but you're doing the exact same thing anybody else getting banned for calling someone a retard is.

You are free to infer whatever you wish about what I said, speculate any way you like. I left it open to interpretation.

I said people would get better results spending their money on councelling at this stage.

[FabricatedWookie]

Juromaro wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

Juromaro wrote...

He4vyMet4l wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Speaking up is one thing, but this? This is a horse of another color -- a dead one at that.

Obviously it's not dead. I can't understand why this thread is full of you people...

Because if I were to make a thread showing support for the endings it would be full of "you" people.

so there is a reverse relationship in thread topics. Instead of those who support a thread topic, it will instead be populated by those that oppose the topic?

Doesn't matter what kind of thread you make if it has to do with the ending in any way it will be railroaded and turned into a flamewar.

Like Bioware's facebook/twitter....they make a post about Dragon Age or any game not Mass Effect and the only comments you see are "Fix the ending of ME3". You should see some of the posts they have on their PAX pictures.

A flamewar you diligently attempt to avoid? Sounds like people upset with the ending of ME3 are showing their discontent by disrupting marketing operations.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

FabricatedWookie wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

He4vyMet4l wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Speaking up is one thing, but this? This is a horse of another color -- a dead one at that.

Obviously it's not dead. I can't understand why this thread is full of you people...

Bioware > "Heres the game hope you like it"

Retake > "We hate it, we're pitching a fit until we get a new ending"

Bioware > "Sorry, no new ending"


Seems a bit dead to me.

Bioware > "Heres the game we promised you"

Retake > "The ending makes this game not the one you promised us"

Bioware > "Sorry, no new ending, but we will expand it"

Retake > "Sorry, not good enough"

I like changing words to change their intent and tone

In short..."Sorry not good enough" and a billboard displaying disgust about a video game ENDING....don't go hand and hand.

Either way....it's still dead, which was the point.

[LegendaryBlade]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

FabricatedWookie wrote...

John Epler wrote...

Hey guess what?

Calling people 'retarded' wins you a ban.

what about mentally ill and in need of counciling?

That's a good point, how well articulated someone is with demeaning insults should have no bearing on whether or not they get a ban.

I don't like to comment on moderation(and don't plan to make it a habit), I understand it's not my position. It is my opinion that a few people here deserve at least a warning though.

Councelling to get over disappointment is a valid way to spend money.

This is my exact point, I don't know if you saw my last post. Where I bolded every insult, accusitory, and assuming part of it, but it encapsilated a large portion of your post. Insulting people gets no where, and you know very well that's what you're doing. Just because it's snarky, doesn't mean it isn't an insult.

You get away with it because you're being coy, but you're doing the exact same thing anybody else getting banned for calling someone a retard is.

You are free to infer whatever you wish about what I said, speculate any way you like. I left it open to interpretation.

I said people would get better results spending their money on councelling at this stage.

You also, in a previous post, said that people were on a childish power trip and needed counseling. I'm not going to argue with you, you know exactly what you're doing. So this is my last post on the subject, report and move on is how you're supposed to deal with stuff like that anyway.

[AxisEvolve]

It's amusing how so many people in here are trying to tell people what they're allowed to do with their time and money. I don't get the mentality of needing to post in every thread with content you disagree with. But I guess serial derailing is accepted now.

Complaining is bad, but 100% of your posts consisting of complaining about other people complaining is constructive? Please don't try and look like you're taking the high ground when you're on the exact same level as the people you are trying to belittle.

[nazguljcg1]

After getting about 9 pages into this thread, I decided I'd like to voice my opinion. First, as age has been brought up here, I want to say I am 41. Now that being said, I think this is really going too far. This is nothing more than wasting money so you can whine publicly. Really I can see nothing positive ever coming from this.

Assume for the moment this works and you get the ending you want(yes I have played the game and no I did not like the ending) do you think this will get EA and Bioware to give it to your for free or something? So what you will in the end do is end up paying 20 dollars as you will flush 10 down the toilet on the billboard and then pay Bioware and EA another 10 for the ending. For the record they have stated fairly adamantly that they will not change the ending.

Okay, so you're making a statement. You would rather do this than give EA your money. So why not just stop giving EA your money? Don't you think they are more likely to get the point when they're profits drop rather than see a billboard created by a small percentage of the gaming public?

And honestly, if you want attention, why not find a more positive way to do it? Reading this thread I came up with two ideas that would draw positive attention. Your billboard will not. Why not take that 10 dollars and go out one day with all your friends wherever you happen to live and maybe clean up a park, or go help out at a mission? Use your 10 dollars to buy some white tee shirts and a sharpie and write hold the line on it and call the local media who would probably cover the piece as you are doing something positive to make a point.

And someone in this thread stated that you have to put your money where your mouth is to make a point, this is not true. You do not need to spend thousands of dollars to make a point. There are ways to protest that do not cost thousands of dollars and would have a much more positive effect, in the eyes of the public. All this will do is show everyone as a bunch of whiners who have no problem wasting money on something pointless in a world where people starve to death on a daily basis.

I'm not saying don't protest, just do it in a positive way. the Retake charity drive was an excellent method imho, it is unfortunate that it had to be marred by a small group of people who had to go and ruin it. I was proud to hear that was being done. I'm not proud of what you are proposing in any way. What you are doing is wasteful and will give gamers a worse image than they already have.

Modifié par nazguljcg1, 10 avril 2012 - 06:09 .