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[MaestroX101]

_symphony wrote...

MaestroX101 wrote...
You're not looking at the big picture. You're looking at just the billboard. Like it's been stated it, this is more about sending a message, and you damn right a message will be made if enough people can pull this off. To do something like this after BioWare has decided to try and fix this issue has the potential for them to draw it back, not do anything at all. And it's not like BioWare's eyes aren't the only eyes looking at this. Forbes obviously has been paying attention to this. Gaming outlets, WSJ, NYT, etc. EA/BioWare has the opportunity to make things better for the majority, but this movement is defacing any and everything that they're trying to do.

I'm looking it, I still fail to see how this message can threaten the future of gaming, because, people will keep on gaming no matter what the f*ck we put in a billboard, and somebody have to develop the games for these people to play. You are really over your head, hahaha seriously, you think game companies will stop making games?

And you're fooling yourself if you think the Extending Cut DLC will fix anything, they already say they will not, starchild stays, the 3 flavours of the same ending stays, they might try to explain it. But that isn't fixing it.

I don't ever remember saying companies will stop making games. Quote me on it if I did, but I'm sure I didn't.

Companies will continue to make games, but how many other companies will put as much as BioWare did with the entire series? Are any other companies gonna go out of their way to make the consumer happy? Or are they gonna go Activision and milk out every single dime from its players?

And also, I didn't say the DLC WILL fix anything. You keep putting words in my mouth. I said BioWare is trying to fix everything, but for some reason, everyone knows that content that hasn't even been released won't work. Go figure, not only are the Retakers huge money wasters, but they can tell the future too! 

[Tazzmission]

 or how about this?


not for an ending my arse

t’s not unfair to say a large number of the players of Mass Effect 3 aren’t happy with BioWare’s trilogy-capping RPG — and they’ve taken their grievances to the Internet.

Many are so frustrated with the ending of the game that they’ve organized what seems to be an unprecedented protest in the video game community. Letter-writing campaigns, petitions, forum posts, Photoshopped images, Twitter conversations, and even on-site organized protests are reportedly being used in hopes of convincing BioWare that the ending of Mass Effect 3 as delivered isn’t up to the standard of quality fans of the series, which has spanned five years, expected.

Easily the most remarkable protest to come out of the fan reaction – some would say movement – isn’t a protest at all, however. It’s a charity fundraiser created by passionate players from BioWare’s own Social Network forums. And already, it has already raised $80,000 for the charity Child’s Play.

“Bascially, we wanted to show that we were sincere, and passionate about the game, without just doing another online poll,” said BSN forum user Robb, 34, a computer programmer from Highlands Ranch, Colo., and one of the early supporters of the fundraiser. Robb asked that Game Front refrain from publishing his full name.

Child’s Play is a charity that uses video games and other media and items to “improve the lives of children in our network of hospital facilities worldwide,” said Jamie Dillion, the charity’s project manager. Child’s Play works with some 80 hospitals, providing what it calls “play therapy” resources – including games, movies and books.



Community at Work

Robb said that the fundraiser was an idea suggested by another poster on the BSN as a means of combatting the negative portrayal of players petitioning for BioWare to change the endings of Mass Effect 3; the idea was to take the organized energy of the fan base and put it into something positive.

At the time, already there had been huge fan outcry over the endings, as well as a wave of backlash – some civil, some not so civil – from both fans against BioWare, and the gaming press against those fans. A Facebook page and Twitter account were set up under the banner “Retake Mass Effect,” urging fans to organize to “Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3.” That page has since garnered more than 51,000 Facebook “likes” as of this writing and has pushed into multiple additional languages. It has been a central hub of organizing protests such as letter-writing campaigns and petition drives.

Since Robb created the ChipIn page on March 12, the fundraiser has garnered $80,000 in donations (and still growing as of this writing). He said the original cap was $1,000. Child’s Play endorses using ChipIn, which allows anyone to create a fundraiser that sends money directly to the charity; it isn’t taking sides in the Mass Effect 3 controversy, though, and Dillion said she wasn’t aware of the Retake fundraiser when contacted by Game Front. Child’s Play isn’t affiliated in any way with the fundraiser other than through the use of ChipIn.

But while the fundraiser was originally born of a desire to create positive attention for the Mass Effect 3 ending movement, several of its early supporters have said that the overwhelming success of the fundraiser has turned the attention to doing as much good as possible with the energy the controversy has created.

“Once we got about 50 people and $1000, word spread like wild fire,” said Cameron Fullerton, 25, a psychology student in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Fullerton was the first to voice the idea of giving to a charity, and has since become something of a cheerleader among the larger Retake charity drive community. “We are also hoping of course that even if Bioware doesn’t change the endings, they might be motivated to match our donations. And, we are hoping by the end of the month to hit $100,000.”


http://www.gamefront....k-for-charity/

[Koju737]

I knew when this "movement" was announced I knew it was gonna be bad. "Retake Mass effect"? If that absurd name doesn't define "entitled" I don't know what does. It was never yours to begin with first of all. Don't get me wrong... there's a lot of valid criticisms on the endings and most people on these boards have been able to express them in a civil manner and with positive feedback(after all its the only reason were getting an extended cut) and I appreciate that, but its antics like these that give everyone a bad name.
The ending is NOT CHANGING. No amount of money wasted on these useless billboards will do anything. You need to accept that. Bioware have listened and are taking action... that's more than most developers would even consider. Its over, the line has been broken, and its time to grow up and act like adults here. Find another game to love and then throw a temper tantrum once it doesn't go your way, but for the love of science, move on.

[KeilxKey]

Tazzmission wrote...

KeilxKey wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

KeilxKey wrote...

Rykoth wrote...

I have no words to express how I feel after reading this.

The Retake Movement has now gone from being a group of disatisfied gamers taking things slightly too seriously, to being certifably insane.

You are raising thousands of dollars for what exactly?

For a protest against a video game?

How about this. Spend all that money and give it to shelters and the like. Not protesting a game over 5 minutes. FFS.

80,000 dollars was raised for charity. Did you forget that?

wich was started how again?

thats right for an ending and dont deny it

when bioware said they wont do one people demanded there money back and if i could id back hand those people who demanded it

Wait.  That seriously happened?  I mean, really?  Yeah, entitled doesn't even begin to describe it.

That's just misrepresenting facts. 
The charity was NOT given to buy an ending, and the majority - the vast majority - of donators said "thank you" and "goodbye". Do not lie. There are articles that prove me right. 

misinformation huh?




Many fans of the Mass Effect series have been so outraged by the ending of Mass Effect 3, that they have started a movement called ‘Take back Mass Effect 3′ This is an attempt get the developer to release an alternative ending to the game. To raise positive attention for their campaign, they started a charity drive for the benefit of the Child’s Play Charity and so far have raised a fabulous $66,000.00 for the charity, whilst drawing attention to their cause.

“We would like to dispel the perception that we are angry or entitled. We simply wish to express our hope that there could be a different direction for a series we have all grown to love,” the group said in a recent statement.

Initially who would have thought Bioware would have paid any heed to such a campaign and change the whole ending of a game, given the work that would involve, especially after the game has been released. However Bioware have now said on their Facebook page ”We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out,” the statement reads. “At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending.”

So all those Mass Effect 3 fans out there may get their wish after all. Do you think that a developer would go to all the trouble of making an alternative ending at this stage, given all the everything this would entail, writing the story, designing this, getting the voice actors together and the multitude of other work it would take?


http://www.hopegamin...ffect-3-ending/

From the horses' mouth:
As fans of Mass Effect, I believe we all understand the deep emotional impact that this sort of entertainment can provide. I believe I speak for all of us when I say, regardless of the outcome of this petition, we are more than proud to support Child's Play."

http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play

Respectfully, you're taking the thread off topic. 

[_symphony]

gXs_2 wrote...
It threatens gaming in two ways. First, gamers are still stereotyped as socially inept, loveless losers living in their parents' basement. If this billboard thing happens, that stereotype will be cemented forever. Secondly, BioWare and other developers may just go, "okay we just won't do games like that anymore.", and e

I belive that raising 10k in money is an achievement that no socially inept, loveless loser living in their parent's basement could achieve.
And BioWare already did a game like this, is called Mass Effect 3. 

Modifié par _symphony, 10 avril 2012 - 04:01 .

[AJRimmsey]

Skelter192 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Why does't everyone just donate to Wasteland 2 instead?

Reading through all the donations and folks coming on board to get this done makes me want to do just that

Go do it now! $15 is all it takes to get the game and Black Isle return!

saw this >

Wasteland 2 is the direct sequel to the first ever post-apocalyptic
computer RPG. The original Wasteland was the inspiration for the FALLOUT
series of games, 

and did this >

Details:   
Pledging $30.00 to Wasteland 2 on Kickstarter.


Pay:   
inXile entertainment, Kickstarter via Kickstarter


i thank you deeply..i didnt know a thing about this

[KeilxKey]

Tazzmission wrote...

 or how about this?


not for an ending my arse

t’s not unfair to say a large number of the players of Mass Effect 3 aren’t happy with BioWare’s trilogy-capping RPG — and they’ve taken their grievances to the Internet.

Many are so frustrated with the ending of the game that they’ve organized what seems to be an unprecedented protest in the video game community. Letter-writing campaigns, petitions, forum posts, Photoshopped images, Twitter conversations, and even on-site organized protests are reportedly being used in hopes of convincing BioWare that the ending of Mass Effect 3 as delivered isn’t up to the standard of quality fans of the series, which has spanned five years, expected.

Easily the most remarkable protest to come out of the fan reaction – some would say movement – isn’t a protest at all, however. It’s a charity fundraiser created by passionate players from BioWare’s own Social Network forums. And already, it has already raised $80,000 for the charity Child’s Play.

“Bascially, we wanted to show that we were sincere, and passionate about the game, without just doing another online poll,” said BSN forum user Robb, 34, a computer programmer from Highlands Ranch, Colo., and one of the early supporters of the fundraiser. Robb asked that Game Front refrain from publishing his full name.

Child’s Play is a charity that uses video games and other media and items to “improve the lives of children in our network of hospital facilities worldwide,” said Jamie Dillion, the charity’s project manager. Child’s Play works with some 80 hospitals, providing what it calls “play therapy” resources – including games, movies and books.



Community at Work

Robb said that the fundraiser was an idea suggested by another poster on the BSN as a means of combatting the negative portrayal of players petitioning for BioWare to change the endings of Mass Effect 3; the idea was to take the organized energy of the fan base and put it into something positive.

At the time, already there had been huge fan outcry over the endings, as well as a wave of backlash – some civil, some not so civil – from both fans against BioWare, and the gaming press against those fans. A Facebook page and Twitter account were set up under the banner “Retake Mass Effect,” urging fans to organize to “Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3.” That page has since garnered more than 51,000 Facebook “likes” as of this writing and has pushed into multiple additional languages. It has been a central hub of organizing protests such as letter-writing campaigns and petition drives.

Since Robb created the ChipIn page on March 12, the fundraiser has garnered $80,000 in donations (and still growing as of this writing). He said the original cap was $1,000. Child’s Play endorses using ChipIn, which allows anyone to create a fundraiser that sends money directly to the charity; it isn’t taking sides in the Mass Effect 3 controversy, though, and Dillion said she wasn’t aware of the Retake fundraiser when contacted by Game Front. Child’s Play isn’t affiliated in any way with the fundraiser other than through the use of ChipIn.

But while the fundraiser was originally born of a desire to create positive attention for the Mass Effect 3 ending movement, several of its early supporters have said that the overwhelming success of the fundraiser has turned the attention to doing as much good as possible with the energy the controversy has created.

“Once we got about 50 people and $1000, word spread like wild fire,” said Cameron Fullerton, 25, a psychology student in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Fullerton was the first to voice the idea of giving to a charity, and has since become something of a cheerleader among the larger Retake charity drive community. “We are also hoping of course that even if Bioware doesn’t change the endings, they might be motivated to match our donations. And, we are hoping by the end of the month to hit $100,000.”


http://www.gamefront....k-for-charity/

This is just getting sad. You've not been checking your sources. 

[Chromie]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Why does't everyone just donate to Wasteland 2 instead?

Reading through all the donations and folks coming on board to get this done makes me want to do just that

Go do it now! $15 is all it takes to get the game and Black Isle return!

saw this >

Wasteland 2 is the direct sequel to the first ever post-apocalyptic
computer RPG. The original Wasteland was the inspiration for the FALLOUT
series of games, 

and did this >

Details:   
Pledging $30.00 to Wasteland 2 on Kickstarter.


Pay:   
inXile entertainment, Kickstarter via Kickstarter


i thank you deeply..i didnt know a thing about this

This is the $15 reward.

"Digital Downloable copy of game DRM free for PC or MAC OSX or Linux. This low price only available for those who helped fund. Also your party will start with a unique and quirky skill. (It won't affect game balance.)"

$30 reward is what you saw I guess.

"Previous reward + Downloadable DRM free digital soundtrack by Mark Morgan and digital WASTELAND 2 CONCEPT ART BOOK."

But you are welcome. I just wish people would throw money at idk a game made by people funded by us and not publishers.

Modifié par Skelter192, 10 avril 2012 - 04:04 .

[Tazzmission]

KeilxKey wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

 or how about this?


not for an ending my arse

t’s not unfair to say a large number of the players of Mass Effect 3 aren’t happy with BioWare’s trilogy-capping RPG — and they’ve taken their grievances to the Internet.

Many are so frustrated with the ending of the game that they’ve organized what seems to be an unprecedented protest in the video game community. Letter-writing campaigns, petitions, forum posts, Photoshopped images, Twitter conversations, and even on-site organized protests are reportedly being used in hopes of convincing BioWare that the ending of Mass Effect 3 as delivered isn’t up to the standard of quality fans of the series, which has spanned five years, expected.

Easily the most remarkable protest to come out of the fan reaction – some would say movement – isn’t a protest at all, however. It’s a charity fundraiser created by passionate players from BioWare’s own Social Network forums. And already, it has already raised $80,000 for the charity Child’s Play.

“Bascially, we wanted to show that we were sincere, and passionate about the game, without just doing another online poll,” said BSN forum user Robb, 34, a computer programmer from Highlands Ranch, Colo., and one of the early supporters of the fundraiser. Robb asked that Game Front refrain from publishing his full name.

Child’s Play is a charity that uses video games and other media and items to “improve the lives of children in our network of hospital facilities worldwide,” said Jamie Dillion, the charity’s project manager. Child’s Play works with some 80 hospitals, providing what it calls “play therapy” resources – including games, movies and books.



Community at Work

Robb said that the fundraiser was an idea suggested by another poster on the BSN as a means of combatting the negative portrayal of players petitioning for BioWare to change the endings of Mass Effect 3; the idea was to take the organized energy of the fan base and put it into something positive.

At the time, already there had been huge fan outcry over the endings, as well as a wave of backlash – some civil, some not so civil – from both fans against BioWare, and the gaming press against those fans. A Facebook page and Twitter account were set up under the banner “Retake Mass Effect,” urging fans to organize to “Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3.” That page has since garnered more than 51,000 Facebook “likes” as of this writing and has pushed into multiple additional languages. It has been a central hub of organizing protests such as letter-writing campaigns and petition drives.

Since Robb created the ChipIn page on March 12, the fundraiser has garnered $80,000 in donations (and still growing as of this writing). He said the original cap was $1,000. Child’s Play endorses using ChipIn, which allows anyone to create a fundraiser that sends money directly to the charity; it isn’t taking sides in the Mass Effect 3 controversy, though, and Dillion said she wasn’t aware of the Retake fundraiser when contacted by Game Front. Child’s Play isn’t affiliated in any way with the fundraiser other than through the use of ChipIn.

But while the fundraiser was originally born of a desire to create positive attention for the Mass Effect 3 ending movement, several of its early supporters have said that the overwhelming success of the fundraiser has turned the attention to doing as much good as possible with the energy the controversy has created.

“Once we got about 50 people and $1000, word spread like wild fire,” said Cameron Fullerton, 25, a psychology student in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Fullerton was the first to voice the idea of giving to a charity, and has since become something of a cheerleader among the larger Retake charity drive community. “We are also hoping of course that even if Bioware doesn’t change the endings, they might be motivated to match our donations. And, we are hoping by the end of the month to hit $100,000.”


http://www.gamefront....k-for-charity/

This is just getting sad. You've not been checking your sources. 

unlike you i dont cry conspiracy at every corner

and as far a si can tell by actions of the retake movement there not true gamers

[MaestroX101]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

gXs_2 wrote...

_symphony wrote...

MaestroX101 wrote...
This isn't about personal insults. This is about the future of gaming, something that's kind of an important part of my life. I know that's pretty deep, but honestly, you're threatening not only the future of this series (which has been given a chance to make all the Retaker's happy again) but the future of gaming in general, as well as the label of a "gamer", and I refuse to sit down and watch as I'm associated with a group of childish, ignorant, unlogical money wasters that would rather spend time crapping on their own money than move the hell on to other things.

Can I get a QFT please?

...anyone?

Future of gaming? why would a billboard threaten the future of gaming? you're really going off the tangent with such wild assumptions. This backlash is because the people that loves Mass Effect, it wouldn't have happened with other game, is what you get for trashing the ending of a superb franchise. Even If this billboard makes EA to fall and die then other company would take its place, we aren't soiling the ground with salt.
In any case, EA itself is the one threatening the future of gaming, the rushed development of ME3 proves it.

It threatens gaming in two ways. First, gamers are still stereotyped as socially inept, loveless losers living in their parents' basement. If this billboard thing happens, that stereotype will be cemented forever. Secondly, BioWare and other developers may just go, "okay we just won't do games like that anymore.", and e

This is some pretty serious 'slippery slope fallacy' argument. You have no proof of that conclusion, really I think this is a good thing for gaming. It shows that developers can no longer ignore their consumers; that people can band together and wont just accept lies and PR tricks. With Kickstarter setting up a variable revolution for gaming on the horizon, this is a beautiful moment for gaming all together.

You have no proof that this billboard campaign will actually do anything positive either. I do know that it has the possibility of resulting in something either very good, or very bad. No in between. It'll get noticed. It'll get blown out of proportion (actually I don't know how much more this can get blown out of proportion), and something will happen. I'm banking on the worse.

[_symphony]

MaestroX101 wrote...

_symphony wrote...

MaestroX101 wrote...
You're not looking at the big picture. You're looking at just the billboard. Like it's been stated it, this is more about sending a message, and you damn right a message will be made if enough people can pull this off. To do something like this after BioWare has decided to try and fix this issue has the potential for them to draw it back, not do anything at all. And it's not like BioWare's eyes aren't the only eyes looking at this. Forbes obviously has been paying attention to this. Gaming outlets, WSJ, NYT, etc. EA/BioWare has the opportunity to make things better for the majority, but this movement is defacing any and everything that they're trying to do.

I'm looking it, I still fail to see how this message can threaten the future of gaming, because, people will keep on gaming no matter what the f*ck we put in a billboard, and somebody have to develop the games for these people to play. You are really over your head, hahaha seriously, you think game companies will stop making games?

And you're fooling yourself if you think the Extending Cut DLC will fix anything, they already say they will not, starchild stays, the 3 flavours of the same ending stays, they might try to explain it. But that isn't fixing it.

I don't ever remember saying companies will stop making games. Quote me on it if I did, but I'm sure I didn't.

Companies will continue to make games, but how many other companies will put as much as BioWare did with the entire series? Are any other companies gonna go out of their way to make the consumer happy? Or are they gonna go Activision and milk out every single dime from its players?

And also, I didn't say the DLC WILL fix anything. You keep putting words in my mouth. I said BioWare is trying to fix everything, but for some reason, everyone knows that content that hasn't even been released won't work. Go figure, not only are the Retakers huge money wasters, but they can tell the future too! 

You said, it threatens the future of gaming, hence, no more gaming in the future, I suggest to make your statements more clear if that's not what you meant. You said  "BioWare is trying to fix it", BioWare already said it will not.

Modifié par _symphony, 10 avril 2012 - 04:06 .

[AJRimmsey]

Skelter192 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Why does't everyone just donate to Wasteland 2 instead?

Reading through all the donations and folks coming on board to get this done makes me want to do just that

Go do it now! $15 is all it takes to get the game and Black Isle return!

saw this >

Wasteland 2 is the direct sequel to the first ever post-apocalyptic
computer RPG. The original Wasteland was the inspiration for the FALLOUT
series of games, 

and did this >

Details:   
Pledging $30.00 to Wasteland 2 on Kickstarter.


Pay:   
inXile entertainment, Kickstarter via Kickstarter


i thank you deeply..i didnt know a thing about this

This is the $15 reward.

"Digital Downloable copy of game DRM free for PC or MAC OSX or Linux. This low price only available for those who helped fund. Also your party will start with a unique and quirky skill. (It won't affect game balance.)"

$30 reward is what you saw I guess.

"Previous reward + Downloadable DRM free digital soundtrack by Mark Morgan and digital WASTELAND 2 CONCEPT ART BOOK."

But you are welcome. I just wish people would throw money at idk a game made by people funded by us and not publishers.

i clicked no reward.

going to donate the same once every 3 months,retired and want the game more than the money
its only about 20 quid uk

again..wish more people would spread the word as i had absolutley no idea.

[Drake_Hound]

Skelter192 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Why does't everyone just donate to Wasteland 2 instead?

Reading through all the donations and folks coming on board to get this done makes me want to do just that

Go do it now! $15 is all it takes to get the game and Black Isle return!

saw this >

Wasteland 2 is the direct sequel to the first ever post-apocalyptic
computer RPG. The original Wasteland was the inspiration for the FALLOUT
series of games, 

and did this >

Details:   
Pledging $30.00 to Wasteland 2 on Kickstarter.


Pay:   
inXile entertainment, Kickstarter via Kickstarter


i thank you deeply..i didnt know a thing about this

This is the $15 reward.

"Digital Downloable copy of game DRM free for PC or MAC OSX or Linux. This low price only available for those who helped fund. Also your party will start with a unique and quirky skill. (It won't affect game balance.)"

$30 reward is what you saw I guess.

"Previous reward + Downloadable DRM free digital soundtrack by Mark Morgan and digital WASTELAND 2 CONCEPT ART BOOK."

But you are welcome. I just wish people would throw money at idk a game made by people funded by us and not publishers.

Skelter with all respect , can you open a own thread for wasteland .
Cause this is about the billboard , and people love for bioware , that they are willing to go so extreme .

Even with failed PR even with failed Marketing .
People still want to give bioware a chance to make it right .
Or else we wouldn´t be going trough all this hassle .

[AnthonyDraft]

What is a billboard? lol

[Thrillian]

This is really starting to alarm me. If this continues this is what I see happening in the gaming world...

Developer 1: Ok, we need ideas for our next big hit!
Developer 2: How about an epic adventure with grand story arcs, deep character development, player decisions, etc.
Developer 1: Remember what happened to Bioware? I'm not sure it's worth the risk.
Developer 2: Yeah you're right. Screw it we'll just do another linear FPS set in WWI or WWII or whatever. People will buy that anyway.

Just my fear though.

[Cainne Chapel]

instead of SPENDING the money... why dont you just keep it in your pockets?

I mean i know you want to get a point across... I get that...

But the points already been made! Its been in forbes, WSJ, etc etc. It doesn't get more mainstream than that. That's much more far reaching than a billboard could ever be...

So why dont you guys save yourself the time/hassle and just keep your money in your pockets? Where it will be more useful

[Calmb4tehpwn]

Tazzmission wrote...

unlike you i dont cry conspiracy at every corner

and as far a si can tell by actions of the retake movement there not true gamers

That's two logical fallacies now. Slippery Slope, and the True Scotsman.
Beautiful. You really know your stuff.

[jackofalltrades456]

I have a great ending for M3....


It's the one where everyone stops talking about the ending to Mass Effect 3.

[MaestroX101]

_symphony wrote...

MaestroX101 wrote...

_symphony wrote...

MaestroX101 wrote...
You're not looking at the big picture. You're looking at just the billboard. Like it's been stated it, this is more about sending a message, and you damn right a message will be made if enough people can pull this off. To do something like this after BioWare has decided to try and fix this issue has the potential for them to draw it back, not do anything at all. And it's not like BioWare's eyes aren't the only eyes looking at this. Forbes obviously has been paying attention to this. Gaming outlets, WSJ, NYT, etc. EA/BioWare has the opportunity to make things better for the majority, but this movement is defacing any and everything that they're trying to do.

I'm looking it, I still fail to see how this message can threaten the future of gaming, because, people will keep on gaming no matter what the f*ck we put in a billboard, and somebody have to develop the games for these people to play. You are really over your head, hahaha seriously, you think game companies will stop making games?

And you're fooling yourself if you think the Extending Cut DLC will fix anything, they already say they will not, starchild stays, the 3 flavours of the same ending stays, they might try to explain it. But that isn't fixing it.

I don't ever remember saying companies will stop making games. Quote me on it if I did, but I'm sure I didn't.

Companies will continue to make games, but how many other companies will put as much as BioWare did with the entire series? Are any other companies gonna go out of their way to make the consumer happy? Or are they gonna go Activision and milk out every single dime from its players?

And also, I didn't say the DLC WILL fix anything. You keep putting words in my mouth. I said BioWare is trying to fix everything, but for some reason, everyone knows that content that hasn't even been released won't work. Go figure, not only are the Retakers huge money wasters, but they can tell the future too! 

You said, it threatens the future of gaming, hence, no more gaming in the future, I suggest to make your statements more clear if that's not what you meant. You said  "BioWare is trying to fix it", BioWare already said it will not.

Future of gaming means exactly what it says. Gaming in the future, short or long term, meaning there's a future, whether good or bad.

[AJRimmsey]

Drake_Hound wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Why does't everyone just donate to Wasteland 2 instead?

Reading through all the donations and folks coming on board to get this done makes me want to do just that

Go do it now! $15 is all it takes to get the game and Black Isle return!

saw this >

Wasteland 2 is the direct sequel to the first ever post-apocalyptic
computer RPG. The original Wasteland was the inspiration for the FALLOUT
series of games, 

and did this >

Details:   
Pledging $30.00 to Wasteland 2 on Kickstarter.


Pay:   
inXile entertainment, Kickstarter via Kickstarter


i thank you deeply..i didnt know a thing about this

This is the $15 reward.

"Digital Downloable copy of game DRM free for PC or MAC OSX or Linux. This low price only available for those who helped fund. Also your party will start with a unique and quirky skill. (It won't affect game balance.)"

$30 reward is what you saw I guess.

"Previous reward + Downloadable DRM free digital soundtrack by Mark Morgan and digital WASTELAND 2 CONCEPT ART BOOK."

But you are welcome. I just wish people would throw money at idk a game made by people funded by us and not publishers.

Skelter with all respect , can you open a own thread for wasteland .
Cause this is about the billboard , and people love for bioware , that they are willing to go so extreme .

Even with failed PR even with failed Marketing .
People still want to give bioware a chance to make it right .
Or else we wouldn´t be going trough all this hassle .

after your campaign you will have accomplished nothing.

even if they gave you endings it would be free,so we will get it free,you on the other hand will have paid for it.

now with wasteland 2 donating gets me another pop at my all time fav game genre....i think its more worthy.

[MaestroX101]

Thrillho_82 wrote...

This is really starting to alarm me. If this continues this is what I see happening in the gaming world...

Developer 1: Ok, we need ideas for our next big hit!
Developer 2: How about an epic adventure with grand story arcs, deep character development, player decisions, etc.
Developer 1: Remember what happened to Bioware? I'm not sure it's worth the risk.
Developer 2: Yeah you're right. Screw it we'll just do another linear FPS set in WWI or WWII or whatever. People will buy that anyway.

Just my fear though.

It's what I've been trying to say this entire thread, but no, they think we can just brush this problem away by just not donating.

How silly of us to think there would be no consequences to this.

[_symphony]

MaestroX101 wrote...
Future of gaming means exactly what it says. Gaming in the future, short or long term, meaning there's a future, whether good or bad.

Sorry, can you be a bit less vague? I said make statements clear.

[Cainne Chapel]

I can honestly say... I dont think I even got so worked up when I got fired from my management job 2 years ago....

I think its time you guys did what I did. Move on and find something better. Its not worth that much to get so up in arms about you need to spend upwards of 10k on a billboard. If you have to come out of pocket even $5 more to complain about something that wont happen.... its just not worth it in my eyes.

I would move on to greener pastures ya know? Save myself the angst and anger.

[Drake_Hound]

Thrillho_82 wrote...

This is really starting to alarm me. If this continues this is what I see happening in the gaming world...

Developer 1: Ok, we need ideas for our next big hit!
Developer 2: How about an epic adventure with grand story arcs, deep character development, player decisions, etc.
Developer 1: Remember what happened to Bioware? I'm not sure it's worth the risk.
Developer 2: Yeah you're right. Screw it we'll just do another linear FPS set in WWI or WWII or whatever. People will buy that anyway.

Just my fear though.

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This is the rubbishe , the ME3 is brilliant for 99% , it is fabulous ...
But last 10 min doesn´t make sense , it doesn´t feel rushed , it simply makes no difference on choices you made
the sacrifices you did , why bother saving all the characters , when you get a ending where there is no difference .
Aside from small subtile things .

The ending does not fit the rest of the game !!
Especially not if you import a character , and get tons of additional dialogues and options ..
Only explanations I can say that is logical is director cut .

Now they want to expand on a ending that doesn´t make sense , for what purpose .
You might as well rewrite the rest of the game to fit the ending !
Sorry the ending is good if it was a kill characters one by one movie .
Then it fits the theme perfectly .the anticlimax the cataclyst .
But no it doesn´t fit full paragon , doesn´t fit full renegade , doesn´t fit paragade doesn´t fit ME 3 .

[Dude_in_the_Room]

I have to ask.....what is this suppose to accomplish exactly?

No, I haven't read most of the replies or even most of  the OP, but if someone could elighten me in a very quick manner.....b/c in all honesty, I don't see how this would solve anything.

Modifié par Dude_in_the_Room, 10 avril 2012 - 04:16 .