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[DOYOURLABS]

"Thousands for protest, not a cent for EA"

But to be honest this has officially ended my association with the retake movement. This is ridiculous.

[Drake_Hound]

AJRimmsey wrote...

snip

after your campaign you will have accomplished nothing.

even if they gave you endings it would be free,so we will get it free,you on the other hand will have paid for it.

now with wasteland 2 donating gets me another pop at my all time fav game genre....i think its more worthy.

I already did that ! , also for shadowrun ,
But I want to give bioware another chance , even if it means buring some money .
Atleast I know I did everything I feel I should have done .

That is I do it for me nobody else but me .
So same reason you are doing that wasteland for something you gain ..
That is fine , I want to do this cause of being a loyal fan for more then 10 years .

Sure if tommorow they say they reconsider and will ad even one alternate ending , atleast I know they see the reason and did pay attention to the fan base .
Even if we didn´t get the billboard yet .

[Nostradamoose]

Ok, I'm done with the retake movement.

This is bat**** lunacy

[HolyAvenger]

What's the aim of Retake now that a clarification DLC has been announced?

[Drake_Hound]

Juromaro wrote...

Drake_Hound wrote...

Juromaro wrote...

Drake_Hound wrote...

No I do not have to rethink it is realisme , if people want associate realisme with negativity .
Is there problem , if people want to hide there heads in the sand .
Is also there choice , but do not tell me I have to hide my head in the sand too .

That is a choice I make , sorry one day when you get there at my age .
You might see things differently then me meself and I .
And for once it feels good to do one thing I love , that is backing up my mouth with deeds.
Extended ending version does not cut it , for a francishe like ME 3 .
Where choice matters , were your action would be respected if possible.
Everything worked fine till the last 10 min ...

You do realize that you make absolutly no sense whatsoever? Like any argument posed against you goes in one ear out the other. Your opinion is the only one that matters and when you can't argue anymore you spout nonsensical bullcrap like this? You ever wonder why people rarely take your posts serious?

Maybe you don´t understand cause you are wearing sunglasses , think you know how the world works
But maybe you don´t know how the world works .
Cause if you do know how the world works , you didn´t need to chip in only 10$ you could afford a lot more.
that is the big difference between us two .

I accept realisme , and the world need a hefty dose of realisme , not some nerd telling others they are nerd .
Cause he is less nerdy .
Wisdome comes with AGE , while youth might be more intelligent they are not wiser .

Yep that seals it. You are a special case. Intellegence is not your strong suit. Constructive arugments are not your forte. So please go back to daycare, learn the abc's all over again and actually pay attention in class this time. Cause remember Summer School is for the lose.

Remember you still have to go to school , while I don´t have too anymore , and also everything you learn from school is outdated the moment you leave it .
Ops did I just gave away a secret of life again ? ...

So stick to your childishe insult with ABC , that will help you in real life ... really it will .

[Tazzmission]

Nostradamoose wrote...

Ok, I'm done with the retake movement.

This is bat**** lunacy

i stated this when it first started


it will end up out of controll and people acted like if i didnt know what i was talking about

people should start listening to what i have to say because so far i have been right

[MortalEngines]

I think the least you could do is actually wait and see how good the DLC is. If you still think the ending is terrible then fair enough. But it's silly to do anything before the release since Bioware will not consider anything before it.

So you're not going to accomplish anything. Also I think this is boarding on too far. Donate to a charity, yes. Send cupcakes,why not. Put up Billboards makes it seems like some deep global issue. Heck not even most charities put up billboards. And this for what? a $60 game that you were disappointed about.

I've said it before. If Fable fans acted like this every time Molyneux didn't deliver his promises...

Either way BSN is soon going to be seen as the laugh of the gaming industry and fans.

Modifié par MortalEngines, 10 avril 2012 - 04:21 .

[Dridengx]

Koju737 wrote...

I knew when this "movement" was announced I knew it was gonna be bad. "Retake Mass effect"? If that absurd name doesn't define "entitled" I don't know what does. 

Did you prefer Hold The Wallet!? or Hold The Line! I'm a cyber internet keyboard warrior rrawr hear my keystrokes as I hold an invisible line with space magic! haha. I know, it was dumb from the get go. They believed Mass Effect was theirs because Bioware allowed them opinions on it, and because Bioware allowed them pre selected choices in game lol

Modifié par Dridengx, 10 avril 2012 - 04:21 .

[_symphony]

Juromaro wrote...
Yep that seals it. You are a special case. Intellegence is not your strong suit. Constructive arugments are not your forte. So please go back to daycare, learn the abc's all over again and actually pay attention in class this time. Cause remember Summer School is for the lose.

No need of blatant insults, you can't be civil? stop posting.

[gXs_2]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

gXs_2 wrote...

_symphony wrote...

MaestroX101 wrote...
This isn't about personal insults. This is about the future of gaming, something that's kind of an important part of my life. I know that's pretty deep, but honestly, you're threatening not only the future of this series (which has been given a chance to make all the Retaker's happy again) but the future of gaming in general, as well as the label of a "gamer", and I refuse to sit down and watch as I'm associated with a group of childish, ignorant, unlogical money wasters that would rather spend time crapping on their own money than move the hell on to other things.

Can I get a QFT please?

...anyone?

Future of gaming? why would a billboard threaten the future of gaming? you're really going off the tangent with such wild assumptions. This backlash is because the people that loves Mass Effect, it wouldn't have happened with other game, is what you get for trashing the ending of a superb franchise. Even If this billboard makes EA to fall and die then other company would take its place, we aren't soiling the ground with salt.
In any case, EA itself is the one threatening the future of gaming, the rushed development of ME3 proves it.

It threatens gaming in two ways. First, gamers are still stereotyped as socially inept, loveless losers living in their parents' basement. If this billboard thing happens, that stereotype will be cemented forever. Secondly, BioWare and other developers may just go, "okay we just won't do games like that anymore.", and e

This is some pretty serious 'slippery slope fallacy' argument. You have no proof of that conclusion, really I think this is a good thing for gaming. It shows that developers can no longer ignore their consumers; that people can band together and wont just accept lies and PR tricks. With Kickstarter setting up a variable revolution for gaming on the horizon, this is a beautiful moment for gaming all together.

But they haven't ignored you. They put all their paid DLC plans on hold to give us the Extended Cut DLC, for free, to try and clear some things up.

[MaestroX101]

_symphony wrote...

MaestroX101 wrote...
Future of gaming means exactly what it says. Gaming in the future, short or long term, meaning there's a future, whether good or bad.

Sorry, can you be a bit less vague? I said make statements clear.

 

[jakal66]

This is just sad.Retake needs to get their priorities back on track ASAP, this is just plain and utter madness.

[AJRimmsey]

Drake_Hound wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

snip

after your campaign you will have accomplished nothing.

even if they gave you endings it would be free,so we will get it free,you on the other hand will have paid for it.

now with wasteland 2 donating gets me another pop at my all time fav game genre....i think its more worthy.

I already did that ! , also for shadowrun ,
But I want to give bioware another chance , even if it means buring some money .
Atleast I know I did everything I feel I should have done .

That is I do it for me nobody else but me .
So same reason you are doing that wasteland for something you gain ..
That is fine , I want to do this cause of being a loyal fan for more then 10 years .

Sure if tommorow they say they reconsider and will ad even one alternate ending , atleast I know they see the reason and did pay attention to the fan base .
Even if we didn´t get the billboard yet .

you are missing a point though.
its been a month,the moneys in and the projects over.

the bean counters rule the roost and theres no way the expense of what you want would pass their scrutiny.

if you had sent all the money collected to EA in a cheque with a request,the bean counters ears would have pricked up.

now its just a waste of time.

[jackofalltrades456]

MortalEngines wrote...

I've said it before. If Fable fans acted like this every time Molyneux didn't deliver his promises...

I vote we focus the movement on him then! That son of a **** has been lying to me for years!!!

[Nostradamoose]

I used to be part of the retake mass effect movement like you, but then I took a huge ludicrous billboard in the knee

[cotheer]

We are really a specie worth reaping:
Everyone of you/us is ready to complain about something, but very few are ready to actually do something and change that, and when they do, they are welcomed with torches and pitchforks by the same people that were complaining.

And NO, before any of you jump on this one, i'm not talking just about ME3, but in general.

We all know EA is all but fair and lovely company ready to indulge their customers, and yet, no one is ready to do sh*t about that, well until now, anyway.

This billboard thing is not just about ME3, BW, or EA for that matter, it's about gaming industry in general and it's current state.
The reason we get annual games that are basically copy/paste/edit of their previous version is because gamers today have a very very low standards, and as long as they get a new skin for their pew pew, they're ready to take it from behind from every company, pay the company $60 and say thank you.

You can't argue the fact that few years down the line, you'll be getting less and less for the same amount of money or even more, and just because you're not self-aware enough to take a stand, whatever that may be.

I'm sorry, but changes aren't happening by themselves, and maybe this won't accomplish anything, but at least one can say he/she tried and trying is what matters, that is, unless you like walking butt-hurt (literally), than, i'm sorry.

[ZackG312]

Dear Retake fans, there other game developers that listen to fans. I suggest you guys move on, this is not working. Another good RPG developer is CD Projekt the makers of The Witcher

[AJRimmsey]

Nostradamoose wrote...

I used to be part of the retake mass effect movement like you, but then I took a huge ludicrous billboard in the knee

now THAT was funny

[killnoob]

this tactic won't work, simply because not every drive by play ME3...beside, the message needs more clarity ( oh.. i love irony)

with those money, you might as well start a new Charity drive or cupcake attack


folks at Bioware must be opening champagne right now "LOL, Retake finally  self-destruct"

Modifié par killnoob, 10 avril 2012 - 04:30 .

[Drake_Hound]

MortalEngines wrote...

I think the least you could do is actually wait and see how good the DLC is. If you still think the ending is terrible then fair enough. But it's silly to do anything before the release since Bioware will not consider anything before it.

So you're not going to accomplish anything. Also I think this is boarding on too far. Donate to a charity, yes. Send cupcakes,why not. Put up Billboards makes it seems like some deep global issue. Heck not even most charities put up billboards. And this for what? a $60 game that you were disappointed about.

I've said it before. If Fable fans acted like this every time Molyneux didn't deliver his promises...

Either way BSN is soon going to be seen as the laugh of the gaming industry and fans.

Ok fair enough , but when they say no alternate endings , doesn´t that say enough ?
The billboard is just a symbol how fed up or frustrated people are .

It same as occupy movement what do they accomplish according to the media ?
What do they accomplish according to themself .
Where is the truth in between ? or is there a truth .

It is not about 60$ a game , or else games like wasteland shadowrun , double fin ..
Would not get funded , it about people emotional outpour and feelings .
That you cannot put a price on it , same way why DLC of ME2 sold like hotcakes .
People were happy with the product , is DLC of ME3 selling as hotcakes ?

People donated to charity instead of supporting DLC ... as a sign of passive protest .
Maybe we have reached a impasse at this moment , that we are fed up .
cause there PR is not working for me , cause I can see trough what they want to do .

[LegendaryBlade]

gXs_2 wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

gXs_2 wrote...

_symphony wrote...

MaestroX101 wrote...
This isn't about personal insults. This is about the future of gaming, something that's kind of an important part of my life. I know that's pretty deep, but honestly, you're threatening not only the future of this series (which has been given a chance to make all the Retaker's happy again) but the future of gaming in general, as well as the label of a "gamer", and I refuse to sit down and watch as I'm associated with a group of childish, ignorant, unlogical money wasters that would rather spend time crapping on their own money than move the hell on to other things.

Can I get a QFT please?

...anyone?

Future of gaming? why would a billboard threaten the future of gaming? you're really going off the tangent with such wild assumptions. This backlash is because the people that loves Mass Effect, it wouldn't have happened with other game, is what you get for trashing the ending of a superb franchise. Even If this billboard makes EA to fall and die then other company would take its place, we aren't soiling the ground with salt.
In any case, EA itself is the one threatening the future of gaming, the rushed development of ME3 proves it.

It threatens gaming in two ways. First, gamers are still stereotyped as socially inept, loveless losers living in their parents' basement. If this billboard thing happens, that stereotype will be cemented forever. Secondly, BioWare and other developers may just go, "okay we just won't do games like that anymore.", and e

This is some pretty serious 'slippery slope fallacy' argument. You have no proof of that conclusion, really I think this is a good thing for gaming. It shows that developers can no longer ignore their consumers; that people can band together and wont just accept lies and PR tricks. With Kickstarter setting up a variable revolution for gaming on the horizon, this is a beautiful moment for gaming all together.

But they haven't ignored you. They put all their paid DLC plans on hold to give us the Extended Cut DLC, for free, to try and clear some things up.

It's a desperate PR move, they realized things have gotten out of hand and that it wont just blow over like with DA2. It's a start, it's a big step in the right direction, but Bioware knows very well that it was never what we asked for.  We don't want clarity. At very least, we want an alternate ending,


EDIT: @Maestro

You have no proof that this billboard campaign will actually do anything positive either. I do know that it has the possibility of resulting in something either very good, or very bad. No in between. It'll get noticed. It'll get blown out of proportion (actually I don't know how much more this can get blown out of proportion), and something will happen. I'm banking on the worse. 

I guess that's where we differ, because i'm banking on the better. 

Modifié par LegendaryBlade, 10 avril 2012 - 04:31 .

[MortalEngines]

jackofalltrades456 wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

I've said it before. If Fable fans acted like this every time Molyneux didn't deliver his promises...

I vote we focus the movement on him then! That son of a **** has been lying to me for years!!!

Hehe, the only positive thing I can say about Molyneux is that atleast he's consistant. 

Drake_Hound wrote...

Ok fair enough , but when they say no alternate endings , doesn´t that say enough ?
The billboard is just a symbol how fed up or frustrated people are .

It same as occupy movement what do they accomplish according to the media ?
What do they accomplish according to themself .
Where is the truth in between ? or is there a truth .

It is not about 60$ a game , or else games like wasteland shadowrun , double fin ..
Would not get funded , it about people emotional outpour and feelings .
That you cannot put a price on it , same way why DLC of ME2 sold like hotcakes .
People were happy with the product , is DLC of ME3 selling as hotcakes ?

People donated to charity instead of supporting DLC ... as a sign of passive protest .
Maybe we have reached a impasse at this moment , that we are fed up .
cause there PR is not working for me , cause I can see trough what they want to do .

 

Firstly, just because it doesn't create an alternate ending, doesn't mean it cannot correct this one to some degree and improve it to the point that it's agreeable. Might not be fantastic but still a good ending.

Also as someone who directly saw Occupy in my own country and city, they accomplished nothing. Created a media stir for a bit and then the mayors and councils had enough and kicked them out. The majority of the public just saw them as activists and hippies creating a stir (not to say they were, just how the public saw them). They might of brought awareness, but that was about it. In terms of actual policy and things they changed - zero.

What I'm saying is, in the grand scheme of things this is one game in the entire world. Yeah, I love the series and buy all the stuff - but I'm not deluded that it's more than it is. And I feel there is only so much effort and energy need ed to be spent on one thing that is ultimately a consumer good.

Modifié par MortalEngines, 10 avril 2012 - 04:34 .