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[iorveth1271]

No, this is a waste of money.

Seriously, wasting thousands of dollars on a billboard just to tell people who don't give a **** to change an ending they already said they're not gonna change.

Go donate it for some charity or something. A billboard is a waste of money.

[KeilxKey]

HenchxNarf wrote...

KeilxKey wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

KeilxKey wrote...

Guys. I apoligize if have upset anyone. It's just that we've worked on this project for a month, and it's taken quite a effort to put this all together.

I also apoligize for some of my responses. I'm getting tired and a little cranky because of that.

We're listenting to ALL OF YOUR concerns, and Micheal and me are discussing the best course to take with this.

So sorry. I feel I've said some things I shouldn't have. I'll update you guys when I have further news.

No, you're doing it to further your own agenda and dragging the respectable RME members down with you. For shame, really. You really sealed the deal with your whole "We're pimping our site!" comment. Way to sink your own ship.

All I meant to say was that we weren't bringing any other site down with us. It's our name on the billboard. We would take blame, no one else. I used the term "pimping" simply because I was getting frusterated. 

 Honestly all this negative feedback took me by surprise, and I have acted out somewhat because of that. Again I apoligize for everything stupid I have said so far. We're listenting to everyobe. So please, enough fighting:(

One more thing...

You can't have been working on this for a month. It's literally impossible because the game only came out a month ago Friday...

So way to lie on top of everything else.

This idea was proposed on march 15th.

so roughly a month..

[Dridengx]

KeilxKey wrote...

Guys. I apoligize if have upset anyone. It's just that we've worked on this project for a month, and it's taken quite a effort to put this all together.

I also apoligize for some of my responses. I'm getting tired and a little cranky because of that.

We're listenting to ALL OF YOUR concerns, and Micheal and me are discussing the best course to take with this.

So sorry. I feel I've said some things I shouldn't have. I'll update you guys when I have further news.

*all I can hear is spin spin sugar*

Planning this for a month you say? wow, that's quite a long time.. you rallied up and got the website and everything in a month? funny, I didn't hear about it until recently. PR doesn't cover your statements. that's like a bad bf or gf move.. baby I was just tired and cranky she meant nothing to me.

Modifié par Dridengx, 10 avril 2012 - 09:19 .

[pikey1969]

This is a terrible idea.

Charity? Awesome cool.
Cup-cakes? Sweetest 'troll' ever.
Billboards???

This is down in the gutter with the FTC complaint. It feels like you guys are now just protesting for the sake of protesting.

It's like watching that small crowd left over from a broken-up political rally after people start leaving, not getting over the fact that people are leaving, and doing even crazier **** to satisfy their 'mob-lust'.

People asking for endings to be fixed/improved have hardly won, sure, but this is not the right course of action.

Modifié par pikey1969, 10 avril 2012 - 09:20 .

[Geomon19]

Go for it. It ain't my money.

[Grand Wazoo]

Wow, we've reached a new level of stupidity. I mean, seriously? Not only is this beyond stupid, but EA would only love this kind of advertising.

[HenchxNarf]

KeilxKey wrote...

This idea was proposed on march 15th.

so roughly a month..

Doubtful. I call BS on this.

Modifié par HenchxNarf, 10 avril 2012 - 09:22 .

[Sunflash0]

Modifié par Sunflash0, 10 avril 2012 - 10:38 .

[Dridengx]

pikey1969 wrote...

This is a terrible idea.

Charity? Awesome cool.
Cup-cakes? Sweetest 'troll' ever.
Billboards???

This is down in the gutter with the FTC complaint.

it's not about the billboard or the media.. it's about pimpin' the website yo

[Laurencio]

For 9k you could get an ad in a national paper, which is far more effective than a single billboard. Not that I support the idea, but it's a waste of money to spend it on a billboard very few will see. Heck, the movement has so much coverage they could just release a statement, or a video ad and every gaming site in the world would publish it for them.

[GBGriffin]

KeilxKey wrote...

Guys. I apoligize if have upset anyone. It's just that we've worked on this project for a month, and it's taken quite a effort to put this all together.

I also apoligize for some of my responses. I'm getting tired and a little cranky because of that.

We're listenting to ALL OF YOUR concerns, and Micheal and me are discussing the best course to take with this.

So sorry. I feel I've said some things I shouldn't have. I'll update you guys when I have further news.

You might want to edit this into the OP so people know that there is discussion, even reconsideration, taking place.


...Even though I'm wondering why it needs to after a month, (sorry, "roughly" a month) of planning.

Modifié par GBGriffin, 10 avril 2012 - 09:21 .

[Aznable Char]

Grand Wazoo wrote...

Wow, we've reached a new level of stupidity. I mean, seriously? Not only is this beyond stupid, but EA would only love this kind of advertising.

This is also correct .

And again I have to reiterate the Point:

Just like BioWare might not understand why people dislike the ending , but we are still asking them to change it 

I urge you guys to recognize that just as you might not understand why this is a bad idea , that there is a HUGE amount of people who are mostly Retakers themselves who dislike this idea and wish for you guys to come up with a better way of organizing money .

[KeilxKey]

HenchxNarf wrote...

KeilxKey wrote...

This idea was proposed on march 15th.

so roughly a month..

Doubtful. I call BS on this.

okay don't believe me...

[Flextt]

Your roadmap for holdtheline.com should contain following points:

- Take actions that distinct holdtheline.com from RME (or BSN for that matter). Are you more extreme? What are your goals? You offer promoting banners that contain RME, you also support fullparagon. The lines are VERY blurry. As long as there is no distinction, whether I donate or not, I will be affected by the repercussions.
- Once a distinction is established to others, you can move the billboard campaign forward, whether or not BSN offers universal acceptance. Then it only comes down to monetary resources and your support from holdtheline.com

As it stands, you will be pulling everyone into something, that will give EA / Bioware a deceisive advantage. Why spite them after they made concessions? Why not something more constructive?

[pikey1969]

Dridengx wrote...

pikey1969 wrote...

This is a terrible idea.

Charity? Awesome cool.
Cup-cakes? Sweetest 'troll' ever.
Billboards???

This is down in the gutter with the FTC complaint.

it's not about the billboard or the media.. it's about pimpin' the website yo

You 'deserves better fans' are part of what incited these idiots. For every troll-action, there's troll-reaction.

[Grimskull89]

So the gracious creator of this product wishes to hide from those voicing concern? That is the feeling I get looking at your HTL forums about this billboard.

Also, I take it OP you are known as Jim on there.

[HenchxNarf]

KeilxKey wrote...


okay don't believe me...

I'll put this here instead:

And I'm not going to believe you.

Regardless of your intentions, you're dragging people into this
that don't deserve it. You're lumping people together, and it's wrong.
You may only represent "your site" but to the outside world, everyone in
RME is the same, and this will make it seem like this was everyone.

They don't deserve to be lumped into your bs scheme.

[KeilxKey]

GBGriffin wrote...

KeilxKey wrote...

Guys. I apoligize if have upset anyone. It's just that we've worked on this project for a month, and it's taken quite a effort to put this all together.

I also apoligize for some of my responses. I'm getting tired and a little cranky because of that.

We're listenting to ALL OF YOUR concerns, and Micheal and me are discussing the best course to take with this.

So sorry. I feel I've said some things I shouldn't have. I'll update you guys when I have further news.

You might want to edit this into the OP so people know that there is discussion, even reconsideration, taking place.


...Even though I'm wondering why it needs to after a month, (sorry, "roughly" a month) of planning.

Just wanted to let it be known that we spent time working on this. Scouting the various locations, getting in conact with the billboard agencies, the various hurdlles we had to jump through. We really put alot of effort into this idea. We spent alot of time on this, so to see it being shot down in mere seconds is quite disheartening to say the least. 

[Aznable Char]

GBGriffin wrote...

KeilxKey wrote...

Guys. I apoligize if have upset anyone. It's just that we've worked on this project for a month, and it's taken quite a effort to put this all together.

I also apoligize for some of my responses. I'm getting tired and a little cranky because of that.

We're listenting to ALL OF YOUR concerns, and Micheal and me are discussing the best course to take with this.

So sorry. I feel I've said some things I shouldn't have. I'll update you guys when I have further news.

You might want to edit this into the OP so people know that there is discussion, even reconsideration, taking place.


...Even though I'm wondering why it needs to after a month, (sorry, "roughly" a month) of planning.

I urged them of this same point even on their forum .

This is an interesting case study as well of how internal think tanks might be out of touch with potential public opinion . This is what happened with BioWare in the sense that they indoctrinated themselves on how good their ending was that they were prepared to PR their way into getting people to accept it .

HTL Has a unique opportunity here to show themselves to be better than BioWare's handling of the ending negativity .

[Reptilian Rob]

Listen to me and listen well, you will hurt HTL and Retake if you do this. You will be giving EA free advertising on top of making is look like ****s.

Do not do this, you are acting exactly like Bioware by doin this. STOP! I am a faithful HTL member Nd this will only hurt us!

Modifié par Reptilian Rob, 10 avril 2012 - 09:25 .

[Aznable Char]

KeilxKey wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

KeilxKey wrote...

Guys. I apoligize if have upset anyone. It's just that we've worked on this project for a month, and it's taken quite a effort to put this all together.

I also apoligize for some of my responses. I'm getting tired and a little cranky because of that.

We're listenting to ALL OF YOUR concerns, and Micheal and me are discussing the best course to take with this.

So sorry. I feel I've said some things I shouldn't have. I'll update you guys when I have further news.

You might want to edit this into the OP so people know that there is discussion, even reconsideration, taking place.


...Even though I'm wondering why it needs to after a month, (sorry, "roughly" a month) of planning.

Just wanted to let it be known that we spent time working on this. Scouting the various locations, getting in conact with the billboard agencies, the various hurdlles we had to jump through. We really put alot of effort into this idea. We spent alot of time on this, so to see it being shot down in mere seconds is quite disheartening to say the least. 

Keil . Simple point:

If Hudson said to you "We worked on this game for years , scouting out the various photos to photoshop into Tali , contacting EA , the various hurdles we had to jump through . We really put a lot of effort into this ending . We spent a lot of tiem on this . so to see it being shot down in mere seconds is quite disheartening"

Do you honestly think you'd suddenly like his endings ?

Please .. Please ... do you not see the inherent need to learn from BioWare's mistakes here ?

Modifié par Aznable Char, 10 avril 2012 - 09:25 .

[HenchxNarf]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Listen I me and listen well, you will hurt HTL and Retake if you do this. You will be giving EA free advertising on top of making is look like ****s.

Do not do this, you are acting exactly like Bioware by doin this. STOP! I am a faithful HTL member Nd this will only hurt us!

They don't care if they do, so long as the publicity for their site gets out there.

Who cares if they lump people in with this that don't deserve it.

[Lone_Wolf0]

HenchxNarf wrote...

KeilxKey wrote...


okay don't believe me...

I'll put this here instead:

And I'm not going to believe you.

Regardless of your intentions, you're dragging people into this
that don't deserve it. You're lumping people together, and it's wrong.
You may only represent "your site" but to the outside world, everyone in
RME is the same, and this will make it seem like this was everyone.

They don't deserve to be lumped into your bs scheme.

THIS is a FACT. It sucks to admit it, but the public does view our movement as a united force. There may be a few that know the differences between websites, but the news and your average joe see us as one. And they will PORTRAY us as one, whether you intend for it to happen or not. And most people don't want that, including the (I suspect) majority of Retake.

[HoustonDragon]

Grimskull89 wrote...

So the gracious creator of this product wishes to hide from those voicing concern? That is the feeling I get looking at your HTL forums about this billboard.

That's the feeling I got from their site as well (can't register, or I'd gladly leave a comment for their creative staff as well). Their "unified" group seems to be having their own doubts after the level of concern has been voiced, even to their lead telling people to stop and wait until they've discussed it themselves.

Not seeing the month worth of planning, myself.

Also, I take it OP you are known as Jim on there.

OP stated they were Jim on HTL in a previous post.

[Dridengx]

pikey1969 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

pikey1969 wrote...

This is a terrible idea.

Charity? Awesome cool.
Cup-cakes? Sweetest 'troll' ever.
Billboards???

This is down in the gutter with the FTC complaint.

it's not about the billboard or the media.. it's about pimpin' the website yo

You 'deserves better fans' are part of what incited these idiots. For every troll-action, there's troll-reaction.

orly? So I made them hate the game and whine for 5 weeks, threaten lives, and give money to charities and make billboards and websites? give me a break. you sure give me a lot of credit

Modifié par Dridengx, 10 avril 2012 - 09:26 .