GBGriffin wrote...
AcesRedd wrote...
What I mean to say is that as the days pass by I see there is a clear decline in the talk related to how much the ending sucks. I'm not saying people are changing their minds or even pleased with the results (though I'm sure some might be.) But I think that just like with everything that our short attention spans fixate on people are simply losing interest and moving on to a different game or drama.
The game came out right now, it did not meet expectations, but much more importantly it betrayed what had been a great series. Whether people enjoyed the ending or not, they were lied to and given a subpar product, right now while the iron is hot we can still cause a change (hopefully more than what I think the community has already done,) but three months from now I don't think even a very passionate group will be able to rally the support to cause any effect whatsoever.
That being said I've seen a few discussions on the billboard and I feel it is a bad idea. Still, I would be very open to put my money toward something that will have an effect. Though I am passionate about what I want, I don't think it is unreasonable (though it might be from someone else's point of view.)
What I want personally, is someone who is responsible for all this BS. Either the executive whatever or the head of whatever, be that from EA or EAware. Someone who says "I rushed them", or "I cut their budget" or "I simply got lazy." Whatever, accepts responsibility and goes looking for new job opportunities.
The other thing I want is for them to just come out and say something vaguely resembling, "alright fans, look it was bull ****. We knew it was gonna suck, we just didn't realize how much you'd hate it. We will fix it, we're sorry for all the bull****, we were just scared and there were budgets and deadlines and it sucks, but forget the artistic bull****, we're sorry. We really mean it and we will do our best to fix this."
So, you feel that the forums should be filled with daily reminders of how much the endings suck, even as people have admitted to wanting to just wait for EC?
People know the endings suck; it's why we started protesting . The difference is that maybe people don't feel as passionately about it as you do because something finally happened. They commented on it, they announced the EC, and while you might feel it isnt enough for you personally...I don't think people are just going to forget about the EC. If your goal is to keep people in a constant state of anger until then...I don't think that's healthy for anyone.
My point is, protest it then and turn up the heat then, not before. Otherwise, it truly is whining about getting something for free that is the direct result of a prior protest. You might have to accept that some people, shockingly enough, are willing to let it go, and that's even without the DLC in their hands!
If you're expecting them to fire someone because you didn't get what you want, after they've defended their work, I don't think it'll happen. If your happiness and enjoyment rides on the hope of someone getting fired...that's not healthy. As for a concession, they aren't going to state anything like that in those terms. Take the EC as your concession, because they didn't even have that, and maybe try to calm down a bit and just be patient. Lack of patience leads to awful ideas like this; staying angry for the sake of being angry isn't good.
People want to wait for the EC because they have the hope that the polish will be a fix. I too have that hope, but I think most of us know that as the ending stands there is no way to really fix it that isn't going to have magic or some other easy fix. I think its not that I'm more passionate that most, I actually only recently even found out about the ending, even though I got the game on the first day I'd completly avoided any and all news about Mass Effect in order to be surprised. I didn't finish the game until a week or so ago, maybe going on two weeks now and after feeling rather unsatisfied I came on here and started lurking at first then speaking out a bit.
I know that just like it has died down for everyone it will certainly die down for me, it is simply in our nature, as you've said it is not healty and for the most part not likely to remain angry for an extended period of time. I'm sure people are not going to forget about the EC, and I don't expect people to remain angry for three months (or however long), but I do expect that by the time EC comes out even if it actually makes the game even worse, even if its the biggest middle finger to the fans, there will be less action, because people will simply look at it on youtube and be like, "told ya it would suck," or people will simply be crushed. I know this is just what I'm guessing will happen, but yea kind of like you said, people can simply not stay angry.
I definitely see and know that people are very willing to let it go. I see some people simply don't care even if they hate it. Some people care but don't care enough to really do anything (I've mostly fallen in that group =/) and some people care as long as they see something might happen but if nobody else seems to care they'll give up. I hope whatever is done gives enough negative attention to lower sales, stock, do something that affects not their "artistic integrity" but their wallets, EA or EAware.
As far as firing someone, I've seen on the boards that people say things like, "how can you wish someone loses their livelyhood." Well it sucks, but if I suck at my job I get fired. If a walmart employee sucks at his job he gets fired too. So do lawyers and doctors. I know this is "just a game" (as people like to point out) but someone was incompetent. Either by creating unreasonable deadlines, by underbudgeting a project, by lying or maybe simply being stupid, either way someone f'ed up. Actually, I'm sure people's jobs are being affected by all the negative attention, its just quiet. Does my own happiness depend on someone being fired? Not at all. But do I feel better about being wronged (though I would have just rather not been wronged) when someone is punished, weeeeell at least a little.
Now as far as really accepting fault, you're right...unless they're really sorry. I mean really sorry, or at least feel that the only way to stop alienating everyone is to 'act' sorry. (I'll take acting even if they're not as long as they act it out well
) And the only way to make a faceless company sorry is to hit their wallet. Pull their fanbase, have the media focus its attention on them in a way that suits their product, and well once they start to see actual effects maybe they'll be a lot more talkative. Or not, but hey if we're bored enough to be on here and we pay $4 for starbucks a day why not see if we can actually cause some change for something we are interested in? (I'd vote if I wasn't a Californite)
That being said, anyone who you'd hope to make aware of your concerns via this method is aware of your concerns. At the end of the day, though, it's your money, and you can certainly spend it however you'd like. But if you're trying to spread your message this is not going to do much more than waste 5$ from 1800 people. Again, though - it's your money.
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