It affects us because we can possibly be banned by EA just for playing in these games, and we have to constantly check our credit number to see if it hasn't suddenly risen by a ludicrous amount.
The Credit Glitch - Repurcussions?
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#28
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 04:51
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Comete against who? its co-op.fixit6 wrote...
So essentially you have to exploit credits to do well/compete. Contradict yourself much?
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Posté 10 avril 2012 - 04:51
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But w/e, cheaters will always justify themselves and you will never win. Same people wrecked GTA 4 PC MP saying using trainers was perfectly ok and spamming tugboats for the lols made them cool. No one plays that MP in that game no more b/c of this, fyi.
#30
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 04:52
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It'd be awesome if I could spam tugboats in ME3 MP
#31
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 04:53
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This is like an mmorpg, people want to /flex their gear, if people obtain their gear unfairly (exploits) I think they should be punished. ESPECIALLY since people are using real money to purchase points for packs. It's pretty unfair.
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Posté 10 avril 2012 - 04:54
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This is like an mmorpg, people want to /flex their gear, if people obtain their gear unfairly (exploits) I think they should be punished. ESPECIALLY since people are using real money to purchase points for packs. It's pretty unfair.
#33
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 04:56
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but last i checked GTA4 was PvP not co-op. in a game where people are killing each other its bad, in a game where veryone wins if even one person survives is alright aslong as its not in a public match as it disrupts the flow of the other player unless they agreed to do so over messages mics ect.fixit6 wrote...
But w/e, cheaters will always justify themselves and you will never win. Same people wrecked GTA 4 PC MP saying using trainers was perfectly ok and spamming tugboats for the lols made them cool. No one plays that MP in that game no more b/c of this, fyi.
#34
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 04:58
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The fact that their is a dollar value (bioware points) on the packs means they will probably take it very seriously, I'd expect MP bans, or erased accounts when their is a fix.
#35
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 04:59
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And here i thought the credit glitch was the one where so many people get their credits sucked away down the drain of unable to connect..
#37
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:01
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I can understand why people do it, this game is as much of a grind as an MMO.
#38
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:03
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Who cares? There's nothing remotely competitive to the rewards you gain in multiplayer. If someone on your team has a slightly better shotgun and just happens to do better because of it, that just means that you win the game faster and get more credits yourself. If you know how to do it and choose not to, that's your own fault, not somebody else's. Geez.
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Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:03
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Personally I'd at the very least reset their N7 ranking to 1.
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Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:07
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Because I am playing to have fun, and sure it is cooperative but when I literally spend 1/3 of my time not getting to do anything because someone has a black widow 10(or similar gun) and kills everything before I get a chance to play it takes away the fun for me. Now you could say that if he got it legitimately it would be the same problem. No it wouldn't because if someone worked hard and earned it that is one thing, however if he cheated it just feels wrong. I like the feeling of getting something I earned. Then again if I felt entitled to the weapons that would be another thing so I can understand where they are coming from. Still I prefer the challenge of earning what I get.
When I told someone I dont want to credit glitch and just wanted to play the game he said "I have played the game enough" and I wanted to ask why he was still playing then? I don't know I am a achievement completionist of sorts but the second I feel like something is not fun to get I stop. I guess I don't see the point of doing something just to do it, not because it is fun.
When I told someone I dont want to credit glitch and just wanted to play the game he said "I have played the game enough" and I wanted to ask why he was still playing then? I don't know I am a achievement completionist of sorts but the second I feel like something is not fun to get I stop. I guess I don't see the point of doing something just to do it, not because it is fun.
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#41
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:12
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+1Impulse and Compulse wrote...
Who cares? There's nothing remotely competitive to the rewards you gain in multiplayer. If someone on your team has a slightly better shotgun and just happens to do better because of it, that just means that you win the game faster and get more credits yourself. If you know how to do it and choose not to, that's your own fault, not somebody else's. Geez.
#42
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:15
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Impulse and Compulse wrote...
Who cares? There's nothing remotely competitive to the rewards you gain in multiplayer. If someone on your team has a slightly better shotgun and just happens to do better because of it, that just means that you win the game faster and get more credits yourself. If you know how to do it and choose not to, that's your own fault, not somebody else's. Geez.
Bioware should care. Easy credits means less people buying bioware points. Less bioware points means less money.
I'd do it if I didn't risk the ban.
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Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:16
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He probably means he's played enough that he's tired of playing that way because of the limited credits. It's not like you're pushing a button and winning or making the game easier, you still have to beat round 10 on Gold. (quite an accomplishment)Lethlis wrote...
Because I am playing to have fun, and sure it is cooperative but when I literally spend 1/3 of my time not getting to do anything because someone has a black widow 10(or similar gun) and kills everything before I get a chance to play it takes away the fun for me. Now you could say that if he got it legitimately it would be the same problem. No it wouldn't because if someone worked hard and earned it that is one thing, however if he cheated it just feels wrong. I like the feeling of getting something I earned. Then again if I felt entitled to the weapons that would be another thing so I can understand where they are coming from. Still I prefer the challenge of earning what I get.
When I told someone I dont want to credit glitch and just wanted to play the game he said "I have played the game enough" and I wanted to ask why he was still playing then? I don't know I am a achievement completionist of sorts but the second I feel like something is not fun to get I stop. I guess I don't see the point of doing something just to do it, not because it is fun.
And 1/3 of your time? The only time I've ever had classes with better weapons carry our capable team was a gold match where 2 quarian infiltrators with Valiants locking down an entire section of the map and absolutely destroying everything inside of it; combined, they had more than 4x as many points as us other two guys combined. That doesn't mean we didn't have fun: I was a salarian engineer and he was a human engineer, and we had lots of fun aggro'ing enemies with decoys and combat drones and stripping their shields so that the quarians could kill even quicker. And if they had done it with Black Widow X's, I wouldn't have cared. All the better for them. If you can't stand teammates being doing better than you in a co-op game than you have an issue, and if you spend 1/3 of your time not doing anything, then that's your fault for not trying to find a way to help your team beyond SHOOT EVERYTHING LOL.
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Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:19
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Cheating in Co-op? That's new to me, last I heard the objective is to win the match, not who's the highest or has more weapons from doing whatever. I've seen people who have the Black Widow or whatever and are still garbage... weapon's won't make you a better player.
#45
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:19
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If you're lazy enough to actually buy the stuff, you're probably too lazy to actually beat the hardest round in the game on the hardest difficulty over and over in the first place. Credit farming is still an incredibly time-consuming process, it's just a little faster.Capt.Mytre wrote...
Impulse and Compulse wrote...
Who cares? There's nothing remotely competitive to the rewards you gain in multiplayer. If someone on your team has a slightly better shotgun and just happens to do better because of it, that just means that you win the game faster and get more credits yourself. If you know how to do it and choose not to, that's your own fault, not somebody else's. Geez.
Bioware should care. Easy credits means less people buying bioware points. Less bioware points means less money.
I'd do it if I didn't risk the ban.
Think of it like the Alliance throwing you guys into an already controlled hot-zone to perform an objective, while the other mooches fight off the weaker troops. Think of it like a higher difficulty, where you don't get to warm up with weak fellows.
Or think of it like playing on small maps in xp-driven shooters, where you come across an enemy literally every second.
It's not cheating, it's just skipping to the hard part. Quit criminalizing it like they hacked the game or something.
#46
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:21
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Look. I'm not going to say it's "unfair". It's PvE- it doesn't effect me.
What I will say is that, when you agreed to the User Agreement ( and you did, or else you wouldn't be playing ), you explicitly told Bioware that you would NOT abuse any exploits / glitches within the game. If you are using this credit glitch, you're breaking the agreement. So you can wholly expect to get banned, and if you do, you won't have the right to complain.
Pretty simple stuff, really.
What I will say is that, when you agreed to the User Agreement ( and you did, or else you wouldn't be playing ), you explicitly told Bioware that you would NOT abuse any exploits / glitches within the game. If you are using this credit glitch, you're breaking the agreement. So you can wholly expect to get banned, and if you do, you won't have the right to complain.
Pretty simple stuff, really.
#47
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:21
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jamesfrom818 wrote...
AxisEvolve wrote...
You have to be pretty childish to cheat in a co-op mode to begin with.saturos2 wrote...
who cares? its not like its PvP.
You'd have to be pretty childish to care about what other people do in a co-op mode.
If you're having fun, why do you care? Does a teammate having a Black Widow X really decrease your enjoyment of the game? Sure I can see how a SMG one shotting everything would suck but a person having more credits just screams of jealousy. Unlocking stuff was fun up until I maxed out my favorite weapons which happen to be Uncommons.
Imagine you were made are next president. The world would be a an absolute mess within minutes. Your judgement is completely messed up. I for one hate cheaters. I dont lose any sleep over it but i still think its pathetic and needs stopping. Why? Because i spend 30 minutes working my ass of to earn credits. Cheaters however, do nothing. I suppose you would think its alright for a NFL team to cheat a win just because it doesnt effect your little life?
#48
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:27
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I don't see them punishing anyone for this, but they will most likely fix it.
Here's why.
1) It's actually costing them money (People are less likely to buy packs with real money because they heard about credit farming)
2) It doesn't actually effect other players outside of minor instances (Someone has BW X instead of I, does a bit more damage; Or someone doesn't want to cheat, has to leave game to avoid it)
3) Banning/removing items from people who do this would likely cause a bit of an outrage given how passionate ME3 fans are and how many people have likely been roped into doing this while in a game w/ a "cheater".
4) Having a specific weapon at X level does not make someone able to carry a team on gold, regardless of the weapon.
Now, I'm not saying that having X level weapon doesn't help, it does, but it's not something that will make two similarly skilled players suddenly perform completely differently. Granted, some weapons are more important than others, for example having a sufficiently leveled Carnifex helps immensely for power hungry classes that way to headshot while still being able to pump out powers non-stop.
Anyway, if you don't like that people are doing this, just leave the games. To be quite honest, it really isn't that difficult to credit farm legitimately. I have all rare/uncommon weapons at V-X and have over 2 million credits saved for the dlc content. All it is really saving them is time, as almost any team can complete FB White w/ a SE regardless of team setup. The only variable that kills most teams is a really horrible hack location or an infiltrator that can't seem to download objectives while the rest of the team distracts all of the enemies.
Here's why.
1) It's actually costing them money (People are less likely to buy packs with real money because they heard about credit farming)
2) It doesn't actually effect other players outside of minor instances (Someone has BW X instead of I, does a bit more damage; Or someone doesn't want to cheat, has to leave game to avoid it)
3) Banning/removing items from people who do this would likely cause a bit of an outrage given how passionate ME3 fans are and how many people have likely been roped into doing this while in a game w/ a "cheater".
4) Having a specific weapon at X level does not make someone able to carry a team on gold, regardless of the weapon.
Now, I'm not saying that having X level weapon doesn't help, it does, but it's not something that will make two similarly skilled players suddenly perform completely differently. Granted, some weapons are more important than others, for example having a sufficiently leveled Carnifex helps immensely for power hungry classes that way to headshot while still being able to pump out powers non-stop.
Anyway, if you don't like that people are doing this, just leave the games. To be quite honest, it really isn't that difficult to credit farm legitimately. I have all rare/uncommon weapons at V-X and have over 2 million credits saved for the dlc content. All it is really saving them is time, as almost any team can complete FB White w/ a SE regardless of team setup. The only variable that kills most teams is a really horrible hack location or an infiltrator that can't seem to download objectives while the rest of the team distracts all of the enemies.
#49
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:32
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Impulse and Compulse wrote...
He probably means he's played enough that he's tired of playing that way because of the limited credits. It's not like you're pushing a button and winning or making the game easier, you still have to beat round 10 on Gold. (quite an accomplishment)Lethlis wrote...
Because I am playing to have fun, and sure it is cooperative but when I literally spend 1/3 of my time not getting to do anything because someone has a black widow 10(or similar gun) and kills everything before I get a chance to play it takes away the fun for me. Now you could say that if he got it legitimately it would be the same problem. No it wouldn't because if someone worked hard and earned it that is one thing, however if he cheated it just feels wrong. I like the feeling of getting something I earned. Then again if I felt entitled to the weapons that would be another thing so I can understand where they are coming from. Still I prefer the challenge of earning what I get.
When I told someone I dont want to credit glitch and just wanted to play the game he said "I have played the game enough" and I wanted to ask why he was still playing then? I don't know I am a achievement completionist of sorts but the second I feel like something is not fun to get I stop. I guess I don't see the point of doing something just to do it, not because it is fun.
And 1/3 of your time? The only time I've ever had classes with better weapons carry our capable team was a gold match where 2 quarian infiltrators with Valiants locking down an entire section of the map and absolutely destroying everything inside of it; combined, they had more than 4x as many points as us other two guys combined. That doesn't mean we didn't have fun: I was a salarian engineer and he was a human engineer, and we had lots of fun aggro'ing enemies with decoys and combat drones and stripping their shields so that the quarians could kill even quicker. And if they had done it with Black Widow X's, I wouldn't have cared. All the better for them. If you can't stand teammates being doing better than you in a co-op game than you have an issue, and if you spend 1/3 of your time not doing anything, then that's your fault for not trying to find a way to help your team beyond SHOOT EVERYTHING LOL.
No I am trying to help my team but I dont get a chance. Running around and once I get there everything is already dead and they have headed towards the next group. Trying to snipe something and it dying before I can get another shot at it. That is not a problem now because I have invested the time and energy to get the weapons I want but when the game was young and these people were already glitching and having black weapons it was annoying. I suppose it is good though because it taught me that it is not fun if you kill everything, so now I make sure that other people get their kills and try to make sure they have fun.
Then again the people who credit farm are the kind of people who are just doing it to have all the weapons so maybe they will get bored and quit.
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#50
Posté 10 avril 2012 - 05:39
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Co-Op or not, we're working towards getting rewards. If you're using an exploit to get them faster, like it or not, you're cheating. In the case of this particular glitch; you KNOW you're doing it; no one is doing the credit glitch over and over by accident.
Bioware put up a system where you earn rewards at a specified pace. They're fully within their rights to ban abusers and I think they should.
Bioware put up a system where you earn rewards at a specified pace. They're fully within their rights to ban abusers and I think they should.
