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[UKillMeLongTime]

The issue is that they sell these packs that the credits are only needed for....so thats why it matters
If they never added the m$ transactions i'd be one thing

My guess resets might happen to big abusers.

[UKillMeLongTime]

Apl_J wrote...

Co-Op or not, we're working towards getting rewards. If you're using an exploit to get them faster, like it or not, you're cheating. In the case of this particular glitch; you KNOW you're doing it; no one is doing the credit glitch over and over by accident.

Bioware put up a system where you earn rewards at a specified pace. They're fully within their rights to ban abusers and I think they should.

yep its not an accident 
the guy thats a 1200 and told me he bought 60 of the 99k spectre packs cheated
explained how he also had 900 medigels and all but 2 guns

he said he was 'good' but there is not the time in a day to do what he claimed through legit games. He even said he did it a couple of times....yeah, couple of hundred

[Apl_Juice]

Yea, the BW/MS points instead of credits problem makes it more of poignant issue, but regardless, its still a glitch.

People are taking a carefully designed system of rewards and crapping all over it. Just because people can't handle not getting what they want as quickly as they want, they feel the need to use a glitch. Argue however you want: credit glitch is wrong.

[General Graal]

GJ88 wrote...

jamesfrom818 wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

saturos2 wrote...

who cares? its not like its PvP.

You have to be pretty childish to cheat in a co-op mode to begin with. 

You'd have to be pretty childish to care about what other people do in a co-op mode. 

If you're having fun, why do you care?  Does a teammate having a Black Widow X really decrease your enjoyment of the game? Sure I can see how a SMG one shotting everything would suck but a person having more credits just screams of jealousy.  Unlocking stuff was fun up until I maxed out my favorite weapons which happen to be Uncommons.

Imagine you were made are next president. The world would be a an absolute mess within minutes. Your judgement is completely messed up. I for one hate cheaters. I dont lose any sleep over it but i still think its pathetic and needs stopping. Why? Because i spend 30 minutes working my ass of to earn credits. Cheaters however, do nothing. I suppose you would think its alright for a NFL team to cheat a win just because it doesnt effect your little life?

Because y'know. A game can be compared exactly to real life. Good job bro.

[InfamousResult]

You agreed not to do it. You're pretty much automatically wrong if you do.

[squidney2k1]

Probably bans & resets (more appropriate than a ban).

I've come across lots of lobbies asking people to do the credit glitch. I just leave and find another game.

[KyleCamelot]

No, seriously guys, imagine you were made are next president.

[Pandaman102]

Apl_J wrote...

Bioware put up a system where you earn rewards at a specified pace. They're fully within their rights to ban abusers and I think they should.

Not arguing for cheating/exploiting or against Bioware's right to ban, but I do want to point out that a randomized unlock pack isn't a "specified pace". Equipment unlocking at certain N7 ranks or flat-rate purchases for gear would be paced, but you can't really be randomly specific.

[Antagony]

I joined a public room where someone did this. At first I thought I had joined at Wave 10, but they insisted that I just die. It gave me about out the same amount of credits the TC stated. What's more they had started gold again, but the host had left. I figured the game would be a lot harder with just three people, so I pressed O after host had left.

[kirby145]

Just turn off game feedback. This is how you keep information private to my knowledge. An interesting thing I have only seen in Bioware games. Every other game datamines your profile, not that it is harmful personal data how many kills you get with an M16...

Modifié par kirby145, 10 avril 2012 - 06:26 .

[Apl_Juice]

Pandaman102 wrote...

Apl_J wrote...

Bioware put up a system where you earn rewards at a specified pace. They're fully within their rights to ban abusers and I think they should.

Not arguing for cheating/exploiting or against Bioware's right to ban, but I do want to point out that a randomized unlock pack isn't a "specified pace". Equipment unlocking at certain N7 ranks or flat-rate purchases for gear would be paced, but you can't really be randomly specific.

Sure you can. Its a Variable Interval Schedule. Its Operant Conditioning.

For many, Vairable Interval is actually more effective than Fixed Interval; its why gambling is so addictive.

[Pandaman102]

Apl_J wrote...

Pandaman102 wrote...

Not arguing for cheating/exploiting or against Bioware's right to ban, but I do want to point out that a randomized unlock pack isn't a "specified pace". Equipment unlocking at certain N7 ranks or flat-rate purchases for gear would be paced, but you can't really be randomly specific.

Sure you can. Its a Variable Interval Schedule. Its Operant Conditioning.

For many, Vairable Interval is actually more effective than Fixed Interval; its why gambling is so addictive.

Hm, interesting, I never knew about this bit of psychology. At first glance I see it's supposed to produce a steady response using unpredictable rewards (the rate of rewards being what I consider the pace in question), but honestly don't know nearly enough about this subject to really make anything more than a layman's comment.

Makes a lot of sense though, epsecially given the gambling bit.

[vGriMz]

The problem is if it's so wide-spread, it's hard to punish people who did it and find out who did it..

[Lambda Diamond]

How does it affect you in a cooperative game where the enemy is AI?
I know the glitch personally havent used it. Dont care if people use it.
Its COOP if they get better weapons etc who cares? It helps you win.

[Pandaman102]

vGriMz wrote...

The problem is if it's so wide-spread, it's hard to punish people who did it and find out who did it..

Not that difficult, really. Bioware obviously keeps statistics on what maps are played, on what difficulty, against which enemies, how many succeed/fail, and how much money is earned through these games. With that sort of information available all they really need to do is isolate the outliers to identify who has been earning more money than their match record should allow.

The greater the outlier, the more times they've exploited/cheated and from there they can flag accounts for monitoring, to see how frequently their anomalous credit earnings occur (to further filter out people who accidentally benefitted from an exploit/cheat from those who do it regularly).

[James D Sidious]

Done it serveral times, i really see no problem, as it doesn't harm anyone.

it's boring and repetitive anyway

[thefiresidecat]

yeah the blog doesn't say anything about it being released in the wee hours. it says april 10th. My money is on it being released when the store updates in the late afternoon.

doh... never mind this post. I was in the wrong thread. 

Modifié par thefiresidecat, 10 avril 2012 - 08:12 .

[derpy202]

I hope to god they reset the accounts of everyone who has done this. Why should other people play for hours grinding when you have people abusing this and getting millions of credits in an hours play?

The frustration is even more compounded when you have people who say idiotic stuff like "Done it serveral times, i really see no problem, as it doesn't harm anyone"

[staindgrey]

Duhfensive wrote...

There is a credit glitch (Not Going to Tell it) where players can get to round 10 and keep repeating round 10 on gold for $45000 credits immediately. It is EXTREMELY unfair for legit players and I am wondering what BIoware will do to these cheaters. It ruins the fun of the game when people have to cheat.

Bioware, are you aware of this glitch and what will you do?

Could someone please explain how it's EXTREMELY unfair to legit players? It's not PvP. Who cares?

I exploited this glitch for a few rounds, got bored, moved on. If somebody else wants to waste his time doing it, by all means, let him. It's not really hurting me, nor do I give a ****.

[Nexis234]

If your going to use the credit glitch invite me. BW and EA havent done anything about it and wont as they are still making money. If they arent really going to do **** about it I will just join the crowd that cheats.  Then when i have made 1 bazzillion credits I will come on here and laugh at all the people who spent time and/or money to get what I got for nothing. Mwahahahahahahahaha mwahahahahahahahah MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

Modifié par Nexis234, 10 avril 2012 - 08:20 .

[Lambda Diamond]

Apl_J wrote...

Yea, the BW/MS points instead of credits problem makes it more of poignant issue, but regardless, its still a glitch.

People are taking a carefully designed system of rewards and crapping all over it. Just because people can't handle not getting what they want as quickly as they want, they feel the need to use a glitch. Argue however you want: credit glitch is wrong.

carefully designed?!?!

I strongly! disagree!

[Impulse and Compulse]

There's been enough unrest about the contents of the packs themselves (especially character cards) for Bioware to know that their system isn't perfect. If you're lazy enough to pay money for stuff you could earn for free by playing a game, I doubt you'd have the time to repeatedly beat round 10 on gold over and over again in the first place.

Dear god, stop acting like people are pushing a button and getting credits. They're still beating the game on the hardest difficulty, not hurting anyone (except apparently EA, who is losing so much money off of people being slightly less defeated at the pathetic drop rates), why get so angry? It's a game, they don't criticize you for the way you play, let them enjoy the damn game that they paid for without shoving your stupid guidelines down their throats. They're not hacking, they're not modifying the game, they're just skipping the boring, easy levels. If EA wasn't so uptight about the PC version being exactly like the console version, I guarantee you that something like this would be running 24/7 on PC servers.

And no, I haven't tried it yet, but I plan on it some time, especially if I can't get the DLC stuff with all the credits I saved up. I know it's free, but dangling a "free" carrot in front of our face that we're not actually meant to get and then telling us that we need to pay you if we want to get it immediately is underhanded.

tl:dr it's a coop shooter, they're still playing the normal, unmodified game, it's within everyone's power to do it, the only harm it does to you is the harm you inflict on yourself agonizing over a pointless issue, who cares if your partner's sniper rifle is 3 levels higher than yours, etc.

[Kitty Fae]

Lambda Diamond wrote...

Apl_J wrote...

Yea, the BW/MS points instead of credits problem makes it more of poignant issue, but regardless, its still a glitch.

People are taking a carefully designed system of rewards and crapping all over it. Just because people can't handle not getting what they want as quickly as they want, they feel the need to use a glitch. Argue however you want: credit glitch is wrong.

carefully designed?!?!

I strongly! disagree!

Wondered when someone would point that out, lol.

Sure, people can glitch to get more money, but as many people have said. It's not hurting anyone.

Wait. Wait. There is one group that it hurts. Yes. The money hungry EA 'Microtransactions' profiteers. Any use of credits over points hurts these people. But hey, lets not talk about that, or the thread locked gun will come down on our heads, the sky will fall, and er.. we'll just have to go play, i dont know, something else.

All the other points, oh, i spent so much time to get these, and someone glitches to get it, etc etc, these points are debateable, people can argue up and down, without getting a conclusion.

However. When it comes to money...

But hey, they can't even fix the other credit glitch, you know which one i'm talking about, the blackhole of server connection error, why would you think they'd fix this one in a timely fashion?

So go ahead. What's the worse they can do, ban you from multiplayer that you're probably going to stop playing on may 15th?

[BiO]

Should rename the title to "Reapercussions"

oh oh I know, I'm sorry. I'll just be going now.

Modifié par BiO_MaN, 10 avril 2012 - 10:52 .

[InfamousResult]

You can't justify it.

You're automatically wrong.