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[M Hedonist]

Charlie2417 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

Charlie2417 wrote...

Never called you stupid. Don't put words in my mouth.

Read your own posts again. Whether intentional or not, you have been behaving in a very condescending manner to almost everybody.

No

You just called somebody a "damn monkey". How much more condescending and/or insulting could you possibly get?

[Charlie2417]

SlyTF1 wrote...

This man must be confused.

On the contrary! When I was presented with the choices and the dialogue was over, that right there, the 3 way path. That was the best part.

[Charlie2417]

Sauruz wrote...

Charlie2417 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

Charlie2417 wrote...

Never called you stupid. Don't put words in my mouth.

Read your own posts again. Whether intentional or not, you have been behaving in a very condescending manner to almost everybody.

No

You just called somebody a "damn monkey". How much more condescending and/or insulting could you possibly get?

Go read his posts and his general attitude. He behaves like one trying to make jokes where there are no jokes to be made. Throwing verbal eggs at me trying to egg me into a fight. The guy deserves to be called a monkey for behaving like one, whether he has good grammar or not.

[Nyila]

Charlie2417 wrote...

Nyila wrote...

Charlie2417 wrote...

Now that we both know you're awake how about you tackle the first sentence.

The one stating the ending of ME3 is insane? Indeed it is. It makes no sense.

Next time you want to create a forum thread, I suggest you use more than one sentence, and actually explain why you thought the ending was "insane", and how YOU understood it. It would actually make a more interesting topic of discussion, rather than another "you guys are all dumb lol you don't get it but i get it" thread..

Bioware employees themselves have said there are multiple ways to interpret the endings, and to use our power of speculation.

To me the ending is everything that happens on Earth all the way up to the final dialogue moments and the cinematic outcome.

That entire thing is INSANE. Geez, substitute it for your own version of "great" ya damn monkey. Oh and while you're at it do it to the ending of ME3 because clearly it is not presented to you properly.

I'll do that.

[Jeb231]

ROTFL homie, ending is insane in the membrane.

[Nyila]

Charlie2417 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

Charlie2417 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

Charlie2417 wrote...

Never called you stupid. Don't put words in my mouth.

Read your own posts again. Whether intentional or not, you have been behaving in a very condescending manner to almost everybody.

No

You just called somebody a "damn monkey". How much more condescending and/or insulting could you possibly get?

Go read his posts and his general attitude. He behaves like one trying to make jokes where there are no jokes to be made. Throwing verbal eggs at me trying to egg me into a fight. The guy deserves to be called a monkey for behaving like one, whether he has good grammar or not.

I'm a woman, and I was poking fun, and I actually loved the "you damn monkey".

[CerealWar]

Charlie2417 wrote...
This game has a very deep ending that goes beyond the ME universe and challenges YOU.

Wait, what? No it doesn't. It's a hastily formed collection of poorly presented ideas. A message with 10% substance and 90% speculation isn't a message at all.

[Charlie2417]

CerealWar wrote...

Charlie2417 wrote...
This game has a very deep ending that goes beyond the ME universe and challenges YOU.

Wait, what? No it doesn't. It's a hastily formed collection of poorly presented ideas. A message with 10% substance and 90% speculation isn't a message at all.

Somewhere in this thread I give someone a hint on how to view the ending as I did and pop him a question. If you can find it you'll be on the path I was and will be challenged by the ending.

[Nyila]

CerealWar wrote...

Charlie2417 wrote...
This game has a very deep ending that goes beyond the ME universe and challenges YOU.

Wait, what? No it doesn't. It's a hastily formed collection of poorly presented ideas. A message with 10% substance and 90% speculation isn't a message at all.

Well yeah, it's pretty challenging to speculate..

[Charlie2417]

That chart is awesome.

[iorveth1271]

OP, you told us a hundred times now how we don't get the ending and how you don't understand that. I advise you to go through these very forums and search for a few threads regarding the ending reaction where other people already listed their take on the endings a thousandfold and described why they didn't like them. It's good you understand it, good for you. But you're not making a good point by saying that you got it but can't tell us because we should get it ourselves. Many of us spent over a month on these forums, dealing with this very issue. By now, telling people why you understood the ending and why you liked it is not a spoiler anymore (by the way, "Spoilers allowed" is what the forum title says as well). People won't kill you for liking the ending as long as you can explain, why. There will always be those trying to get you to dislike the endings by explaining why they hate them, discussing it to death again and again. But as of late I've more and more often seen people accepting the opinion of others who actually really liked the endings.

That being said, saying we all don't get it a hundred times over and that you're surprised by the negative response, but at the same time not explaining WHAT it was you really liked and WHY you understood it ("Because we have to find out ourselves" is considered a troll response nobody can do anything with. It's stupid, nothing else.) makes you seem like nothing other than a troll.

Explain why you liked the endings. What did you understand? How did you interpret the endings? Have you read through the thousands of threads before explaining why people didn't like the ending? Do you still like it after that? So just stop going like "The ending was INSANE!" or "You just all didn't get it!". The former is your opinion, but it effectively will only get a response like "Cool story, bro" and is absolutely counter-productive. The latter is borderline insulting to all the people who disliked the endings for - by now multiple times proven right - valid reasons.

So are you a troll? Or are you gonna explain why you liked the endings and what you understood that we didn't?

Modifié par iorveth1271, 10 avril 2012 - 06:09 .

[shadowreflexion]

Charlie2417 wrote...

For those of you who did not like the ME3 ending. Do you even understand it? The ending is INSANE.

I will not dispute the reasons that you or anyone else liked the ending. I can only speak for myself. The game is great but the ending IMO was uninspired. People who liked it have all of my respect but please try to extend that same amount of respect to those who can explain the reasons why the ending/s made no sense due to the series as a whole. 

[Drogonion]

Why is anyone responding to this OP?

[legion999]

Charlie2417 wrote...

CerealWar wrote...

Charlie2417 wrote...
This game has a very deep ending that goes beyond the ME universe and challenges YOU.

Wait, what? No it doesn't. It's a hastily formed collection of poorly presented ideas. A message with 10% substance and 90% speculation isn't a message at all.

Somewhere in this thread I give someone a hint on how to view the ending as I did and pop him a question. If you can find it you'll be on the path I was and will be challenged by the ending.

That question has nothing to do with the endings.

[Charlie2417]

iorveth1271 wrote...

OP, you told us a hundred times now how we don't get the ending and how you don't understand that. I advise you to go through these very forums and search for a few threads regarding the ending reaction where other people already listed their take on the endings a thousandfold and described why they didn't like them. It's good you understand it, good for you. But you're not making a good point by saying that you got it but can't tell us because we should get it ourselves. Many of us spent over a month on these forums, dealing with this very issue. By now, telling people why you understood the ending and why you liked it is not a spoiler anymore (by the way, "Spoilers allowed" is what the forum title says as well). People won't kill you for liking the ending as long as you can explain, why. There will always be those trying to get you to dislike the endings by explaining why they hate them, discussing it to death again and again. But as of late I've more and more often seen people accepting the opinion of others who actually really liked the endings.

That being said, saying we all don't get it a hundred times over and that you're surprised by the negative response, but at the same time not explaining WHAT it was you really liked and WHY you understood it ("Because we have to find out ourselves" is considered a troll response nobody can do anything with. It's stupid, nothing else.) makes you seem like nothing other than a troll.

Explain why you liked the endings. What did you understand? How did you interpret the endings? Have you read through the thousands of threads before explaining why people didn't like the ending? Do you still like it after that? So just stop going like "The ending was INSANE!" or "You just all didn't get it!". The former is your opinion, but it effectively will only get a response like "Cool story, bro" and is absolutely counter-productive. The latter is borderline insulting to all the people who disliked the endings for - by now multiple times proven right - valid reasons.

So are you a troll? Or are you gonna explain why you liked the endings and what you understood that we didn't?

The reason I just want to give a hint at one way to view the ending (the way I viewed it) is because when you DO get it, it's AWESOME.

I have been starting to read into all this huff puff mega detailed "I'm agry there are plot holes" crap and my god it's like people really are SO into the world they can't take a step back and appreciate the ending for what it is and how it can apply to YOU, or us in general.

I found it really cool because to me, the ending challenged my beliefs and values. Put the outcome aside for a second and live in the MOMENT. Stop thinking about the damn "retire on fancy exotic planet with plants and beaches" crap and put yourself in Shepards shoes and THINK.

I have to point out though for the 3 choices to have any sort of impact on you you have to MEAN the choices you to up to that point (mostly the TIM/Anderson scene) and understand what the star kid is telling you. THEN the 3 choices really start to become heavy.

[shadowreflexion]

Drogonion wrote...

Why is anyone responding to this OP?

You are 100% correct. To each his/her own.
*shadowreflexion takes a deep breath and then closes the door to find new adventures elsewhere.*

[M Hedonist]

So you are going to continue to tell us we 'just don't get it' until the end of time? You are eventually going to get very lonely in this discussion, you know. It's hard to argue with somebody who is unwilling to tell others what he is actually talking about.

Modifié par Sauruz, 10 avril 2012 - 06:17 .

[rizuno]

An amusing troll...didn't see that one coming. This thread makes me laugh. That being said, OP your stunning use of logic and well-reasoned statements throughout has opened my eyes. I can SEE it now! It's so beautiful, so perfect...So bad*** as to leave Clint Eastwood crying fo' his mamma. It is the endings to which no endings can be compared.

2 + 2 DOES = 5!!!

[rizuno]

Charlie2417 wrote...

iorveth1271 wrote...

OP, you told us a hundred times now how we don't get the ending and how you don't understand that. I advise you to go through these very forums and search for a few threads regarding the ending reaction where other people already listed their take on the endings a thousandfold and described why they didn't like them. It's good you understand it, good for you. But you're not making a good point by saying that you got it but can't tell us because we should get it ourselves. Many of us spent over a month on these forums, dealing with this very issue. By now, telling people why you understood the ending and why you liked it is not a spoiler anymore (by the way, "Spoilers allowed" is what the forum title says as well). People won't kill you for liking the ending as long as you can explain, why. There will always be those trying to get you to dislike the endings by explaining why they hate them, discussing it to death again and again. But as of late I've more and more often seen people accepting the opinion of others who actually really liked the endings.

That being said, saying we all don't get it a hundred times over and that you're surprised by the negative response, but at the same time not explaining WHAT it was you really liked and WHY you understood it ("Because we have to find out ourselves" is considered a troll response nobody can do anything with. It's stupid, nothing else.) makes you seem like nothing other than a troll.

Explain why you liked the endings. What did you understand? How did you interpret the endings? Have you read through the thousands of threads before explaining why people didn't like the ending? Do you still like it after that? So just stop going like "The ending was INSANE!" or "You just all didn't get it!". The former is your opinion, but it effectively will only get a response like "Cool story, bro" and is absolutely counter-productive. The latter is borderline insulting to all the people who disliked the endings for - by now multiple times proven right - valid reasons.

So are you a troll? Or are you gonna explain why you liked the endings and what you understood that we didn't?

The reason I just want to give a hint at one way to view the ending (the way I viewed it) is because when you DO get it, it's AWESOME.

I have been starting to read into all this huff puff mega detailed "I'm agry there are plot holes" crap and my god it's like people really are SO into the world they can't take a step back and appreciate the ending for what it is and how it can apply to YOU, or us in general.

I found it really cool because to me, the ending challenged my beliefs and values. Put the outcome aside for a second and live in the MOMENT. Stop thinking about the damn "retire on fancy exotic planet with plants and beaches" crap and put yourself in Shepards shoes and THINK.

I have to point out though for the 3 choices to have any sort of impact on you you have to MEAN the choices you to up to that point (mostly the TIM/Anderson scene) and understand what the star kid is telling you. THEN the 3 choices really start to become heavy.

Dude...whatever you are on...I have GOT to get me some of that!

[Sesshaku]

Charlie2417 wrote...

That chart is awesome.

[Nyila]

rizuno wrote...

An amusing troll...didn't see that one coming. This thread makes me laugh. That being said, OP your stunning use of logic and well-reasoned statements throughout has opened my eyes. I can SEE it now! It's so beautiful, so perfect...So bad*** as to leave Clint Eastwood crying fo' his mamma. It is the endings to which no endings can be compared.

2 + 2 DOES = 5!!!

[M Hedonist]

Let me break it to you: Your own perception of the ending is so obscure that nobody has yet managed to figure it out or cared enough to figure it out. Some people already find it hard enough to accept the Indoctrination theory, cut us some slack.

[Whapa]

ed87 wrote...

Yet another insightful pro-ending thread

Agreed, the least they could do is tell us why they thought it was so great, but I guess if you can't rationally and logically come up with a reason it's harder to troll the anti-enders about it.....( i think that made sense)

edit: ok saw the post with the "explanation" and that doesn't make any sort of sense anyway, I guess if it really was just you vs the starchild you'd have to make a very bad decision, but as far as the WHOLE STORY goes, you aren't the only factor.  You've dealt with so much more than "just" Commander Shepard.

Modifié par Phyrex82, 10 avril 2012 - 06:25 .

[Powerpetzi]

LOTS OF INSANITY FROM EVERYONE!

[M Hedonist]

Phyrex82 wrote...

Agreed, the least they could do is tell us why they thought it was so great, but I guess if you can't rationally and logically come up with a reason it's harder to troll the anti-enders about it.....( i think that made sense)

That's the beauty of 'lots of speculation'. You can't argue againt if if it doesn't make any real sense. I can see he has really learned a lesson from the ending.