Charlie2417 wrote...
iorveth1271 wrote...
OP, you told us a hundred times now how we don't get the ending and how you don't understand that. I advise you to go through these very forums and search for a few threads regarding the ending reaction where other people already listed their take on the endings a thousandfold and described why they didn't like them. It's good you understand it, good for you. But you're not making a good point by saying that you got it but can't tell us because we should get it ourselves. Many of us spent over a month on these forums, dealing with this very issue. By now, telling people why you understood the ending and why you liked it is not a spoiler anymore (by the way, "Spoilers allowed" is what the forum title says as well). People won't kill you for liking the ending as long as you can explain, why. There will always be those trying to get you to dislike the endings by explaining why they hate them, discussing it to death again and again. But as of late I've more and more often seen people accepting the opinion of others who actually really liked the endings.
That being said, saying we all don't get it a hundred times over and that you're surprised by the negative response, but at the same time not explaining WHAT it was you really liked and WHY you understood it ("Because we have to find out ourselves" is considered a troll response nobody can do anything with. It's stupid, nothing else.) makes you seem like nothing other than a troll.
Explain why you liked the endings. What did you understand? How did you interpret the endings? Have you read through the thousands of threads before explaining why people didn't like the ending? Do you still like it after that? So just stop going like "The ending was INSANE!" or "You just all didn't get it!". The former is your opinion, but it effectively will only get a response like "Cool story, bro" and is absolutely counter-productive. The latter is borderline insulting to all the people who disliked the endings for - by now multiple times proven right - valid reasons.
So are you a troll? Or are you gonna explain why you liked the endings and what you understood that we didn't?
The reason I just want to give a hint at one way to view the ending (the way I viewed it) is because when you DO get it, it's AWESOME.
I have been starting to read into all this huff puff mega detailed "I'm agry there are plot holes" crap and my god it's like people really are SO into the world they can't take a step back and appreciate the ending for what it is and how it can apply to YOU, or us in general.
I found it really cool because to me, the ending challenged my beliefs and values. Put the outcome aside for a second and live in the MOMENT. Stop thinking about the damn "retire on fancy exotic planet with plants and beaches" crap and put yourself in Shepards shoes and THINK.
I have to point out though for the 3 choices to have any sort of impact on you you have to MEAN the choices you to up to that point (mostly the TIM/Anderson scene) and understand what the star kid is telling you. THEN the 3 choices really start to become heavy.
Sorry, but I'll speak for myself here. Some will probably be able to say the same.
I've been on the forums because of the endings for over a month now. I have no clue when you finished (probably not long ago though) but I'm 100% convinced that by now I have analyzed the ending at least 500 times more often than you have. That being said, at this point no matter how many hints you give me, I won't understand the ending. It's nonsensical, out of place and simply retconning so many plotpoints the codex and the first 2 games established that it hurts just thinking about it.
Sure, the ending can challenge your beliefs. You have to make a tough decision, in theory. The problem is, even that isn't all true when you think about it and saw all the "different" endings. I mean, what makes this decision tough is that you have to make a big sacrifice. You either sacrifice yourself for the Reapers to disappear peacefully, you sacrifice yourself to make all organics partly synthetic and vice versa or you (possibly) sacrifice yourself and kill the Reapers, in the process eliminating the Geth and EDI as well as all synthetic life. Let's go into details though. If you sacrifice yourself in order to gain control over the Reapers, the question arises: How can you control something when you're dead? Think about it.
If you sacrifice yourself to merge synthetics and organics, then what exactly does that mean? Are Reapers, Geth and EDI all partly organic now? Are we all partly Reaper now? How will that affect us? Isn't that contradicting the entire focus of the Mass Effect saga on harmony and coexistance, despite our differences? So is a Prothean society where everyone is the same (which was reason for their extinction, according to Javik) preferable to the diversity we were told is what makes the Mass Effect universe so great over the last 2.99 games? If so, IMO it's a mistake to introduce that theme in the last 10 minutes of the franchise.
And what exactly happens after Destroy? How do you survive the destroy ending when you're partly synthetic? How did you survive the explosion you caused? And what happens to the Quarians and whatnot? So many unanswered questions that make this ending feel like you've become a total genocidal maniac.
And these plotholes, these unanswered questions that cannot be explained by codex and logic equally, are what makes the ending so infuriating. And after 5 years and so much cooperation between Bioware and their fan community, calling all these threads regarding the plotholes and how infuriating they are "crap" is simply put, retarded.
And unfortunately for you, not everyone wants a butterfly-rainbows ending. And I've put myself into Shepard's shoes more than once. Unfortunately, what my Shepard wanted to do, namely kill the brat, was not possible. What you don't understand is that the journey doesn't matter if the outcome sucks. No matter how long you drive against a wall with 180 MPH, you'll still most likely be dead, no matter how cool the trip was. To me, Mass Effect 3 as a whole was a very good game. But I don't feel the need to replay it if what happens at the end will only be depressing again and again and again. It kills replayability and leaves these 80$ wasted.
Sorry, but I fail to see what is so great about the ending.
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