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ShadowAussie

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this will ruin the game and bioware it self. it would be best as I recall this game is a single player series only. dont drift into the darkness like what happen with mass effect. that leading team spent to much money and time in multiplayer leaving to many plot holes and errors in-game best to scratch multiplayer and toss it aside into the bin. continue manying better map, graphics and character choices such as a dwarfian blacksmith, human pesant or a danlish elf maybe bring female qunari and genlocks back into the fight.:?

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Maria Caliban

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Multiplayer didn't ruin Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights, or Baldur's Gates. I don't think it would ruin Dragon Age.

ShadowAussie wrote...

dont drift into the darkness like what happen with mass effect. that leading team spent to much money and time in multiplayer leaving to many plot holes and errors in-game best to scratch multiplayer and toss it aside into the bin.


Mass Effect single player was developed by BioWare Edmonton. Mass Effect multiplayer was developed by BioWare Montreal. Two different development teams in two different cities.

Even if they were created by the same development teams, the writers are not the ones coding for MP. Mac Walters did not create Star Child because he was so busy working on netcode that he had to throw together an ending.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 10 avril 2012 - 05:21 .


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As long as MP isn't forced on you, fine. As long as MP isn't required to get the same results as SP, fine. As long as MP isn't taking resources away from the SP, fine.

Personally, I wouldn't touch MP with any kind of pole, 10 feet or other. I do like co-ops though, where the people I play with are people I know and like/love/respect.

I play video games in my leisure time. I don't want intrusions. If I want to interact with others, I go out. My games are my own. I have no wish to have a bunch of pre-teens/barely adults to order me around/insult me/etc in my leisure time.

Edited because typos are a bummer.

Modifié par Sabriana, 10 avril 2012 - 10:00 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

Multiplayer didn't ruin Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights, or Baldur's Gates. I don't think it would ruin Dragon Age. 


Arguably, Neverwinter Nights is a prime example of multiplayer taking resources off single player. No one remember NWN for the main story.

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Sabriana wrote...

As long as MP isn't forced on you, fine. As long as MP isn't required to get the same results as SP, fine. As long as MP isn't taking resources away from the SP, fine.

YES YES YES I agree!!!!

Personally, I wouldn't touch MP with any kind of pole, 10 feet or other. I do like co-ops though, where the people I play with are people I know and like/love/respect.

I play video games in my leisure time. I don't want intrusions. If I want to interact with others, I go out. My games are my own. I have no wish to have a bunch of pre-teens/barely adults to order me around/insult me/etc in my leisure time.

Edited because typos are a bummer.

This, so definitely why I have issues with MP.  I have my own way of playing and they don't always coincide with other's playstyle and that's part of the prob with groups.  You get into your own way of playing and then u get into a group and you end up havin to play by their rules, watever.  LOL I don't play well with others, I'm too stubborn n bullheaded and I've been playing rpg games a lot longer then some people.

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Meris wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Multiplayer didn't ruin Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights, or Baldur's Gates. I don't think it would ruin Dragon Age. 


Arguably, Neverwinter Nights is a prime example of multiplayer taking resources off single player. No one remember NWN for the main story.

Single player was never the focus of Neverwinter Nights, so the emphasis on MP didn't ruin it.

What I remember Neverwinter Nights for was the toolset and the modding community.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Meris wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Multiplayer didn't ruin Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights, or Baldur's Gates. I don't think it would ruin Dragon Age. 


Arguably, Neverwinter Nights is a prime example of multiplayer taking resources off single player. No one remember NWN for the main story.

Single player was never the focus of Neverwinter Nights, so the emphasis on MP didn't ruin it.


And such focus was not received well so you have the Author's Saving Throw called Hordes of the Underdark.

In my opinion, anything that is tacked on is meaningless. A multiplayer on a single player game and vice-versa that doesn't complement each other is foolish. So not only is co-op the only option but BioWare's greatest strenght, storytelling primarily through dialogue, would probably be limited to a single protagonist character.

Anything more than that, such as voicing two protagonist with different voice actors, would likely take resources from single-player, which would 'ruin' the experience.

Modifié par Meris, 10 avril 2012 - 11:25 .


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DA3 will have multiplayer, it's practically inevitable. It will probably end up being similar to BG, since Mike Laidlaw has repeatedly said that's what they would base it off if they were to include MP.

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The only multi-player I would be interested in would be a no on-line needed co-op. Invite a friend over and kick some **** Image IPB

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OP has clearly never campaigned/dungeon crawled with friends.

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multiplayer would ruin this game. its a singler-player campaign and co-op could be an idea from 1-2 players but it would be to hard since the dialogue games Ive played. it has to fit. you can make us wait for DLC, add-ons and expansions but please don't follow the same path mass effect took. it just doesn't fit in the universe and would only corrupt it in my opinon. I would much rather play it will alot of dlcs, an expansion and be happy fighting in orlaid with all this armor and weapons I can customise which would be interesting.

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Agreed. DA universe was made for singleplayer.

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Well I think they have mentioned that there will be multiplayer. I for one enjoy the
Multiplayer in me3. I would like to experience multiplayer in the dragon age world, think it would be fun to go up against ogres, dragons, darkspawn with friends. Plus they have a good opportunity to make it bigger than the me multiplayer.

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wowpwnslol wrote...

Agreed. DA universe was made for singleplayer.

That's incorrect, Dragon Age was originally planned as both multiplayer and single player.

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Atakuma wrote...

DA3 will have multiplayer, it's practically inevitable. It will probably end up being similar to BG, since Mike Laidlaw has repeatedly said that's what they would base it off if they were to include MP.


And yet, I believe there are massive technical issues they'd have to work out if they were to do any type of MP in their current engine. Thats certainly what Laidlaw and other devs have said before- the engine wasn't designed to really work with MP.

So one would think that allocating people to make the ending work for MP would be potentially sucking away resources for otherwise improving the engine for single player.

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Hell is already has a the dialogue wheel, and it's the third game in the series,just connect the dots.

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If they do include multi-player (and I think they will), then my preference would be to have it seperate from the single-player game. The way it was implemented in ME3 was flawed (either by design or error) because MP was required to get the best ending, which is not right for the final part of an SP trilogy.

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ev76 wrote... I for one enjoy the Multiplayer in me3.


It's ok for what it is but if you want the "best" ending you have to play multiplayer. I don't want that multiplayer affecting single player in anyway other than that I'm all for BG style multiplayer.

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I don't mind multiplayer , i liked the ME one.
But when you see the solo game , with things that seemed short cut ,(palaven , one mission on a moon.
Thessia one mission etc...),you have to wonder is this really a good idea to put ressources into it?
I know multiplayer is a good way to make profit , but seeing how Bioware have a hard time delivering games that felt well polished , they shouldn't take that route.

Now if DA3 is great , and i don't felt like people had a hard time with their budget or date of release , wonderful!

But the whole day one dlc(with a major lore related character :s) , multiplayer (yeah cause it's probably going to be related to the store somehow ) à la Masse Effect which affects too much your solo run just plain sucks.

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In need of mp? Go play WoW.


No mp for DA series.

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You need to have a deep combat system or at least a flexible one for multiplayer to be fun in any game. So...if they made Dragon Age multiplayer it could only help the combat system at this point for me. Maybe the single player game would end up more satisfying too.

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If multiplayer is added to DA3 and if it's going to be a part of the purchased vanilla game should be co-op with some connection to the main SP game not like it is in ME3 where it has very little to do with SP. In addition to that it should be optional, in other words released as DLC for people who want it.

Modifié par lofte_2000, 11 avril 2012 - 05:04 .


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Meris wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Multiplayer didn't ruin Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights, or Baldur's Gates. I don't think it would ruin Dragon Age. 


Arguably, Neverwinter Nights is a prime example of multiplayer taking resources off single player. No one remember NWN for the main story.


No, but they'll remember it for a great deal of other things. Watching Let's Plays and walkthroughs, I've noticed that NWN's narrative, though not the best, allows for more roleplaying oppurtunities than alot of other games. Even BG1 and 2 are rivalled by NWN in that category.

I think co-op for DA is a great idea... if it's done right.

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I'm okay with co-op MP (even PvP MP is okay by me, but it wouldn't really fit the series), but only so long as it's not a necessary component.

Forcing people to play MP was a bad idea. It drains the fun away from it since you need it to successfully complete SP.

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Skelter192 wrote...


ev76 wrote... I for one enjoy the Multiplayer in me3.


It's ok for what it is but if you want the "best" ending you have to play multiplayer. I don't want that multiplayer affecting single player in anyway other than that I'm all for BG style multiplayer.