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Justicar's Biotic Sphere, defensive or offensive?


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 Defensive or Offensive? Somehow I think offensive will be more popular since so many people believe that being shield/damage reduction in generally is silly since you lose all your shields in like 2 bullets anyway (in gold.) I really like the idea of a defensive sphere, but I can see people running into mobs and activating the bubble to chain biotic explosions more often then not.

base: 20% damage reduction, 10% damage against enemies. really fast recharge, like, as fast as warp.

Duration is 30 seconds, 57 seconds with Rank 3 and maxed out passive for power duration. 

Rank 2 - 25% recharge speed
Rank 3 - 30% duration
Rank 4 - Shield Regeneration(15% faster regen) or Radius (3m > 3.90m)
Rank 5 - Damage Reduction(10% reduction) or Enemy Weakness (15% more damage to enemies)
Rank 6 - Allied Protection (10% reduction, 10% faster regen) or Warp Effect (warps enemies in the bubble, can explode)

TheInvicibleCandyBar wrote...

Just to help clarify, the damage it reduces is up to 40% and can speed up shield recharge by 25%. The offence damage boost only affects enemies that are IN the bubble. It doesn't strengthen everyone's guns, it lowers enemy defenses.


Modifié par salted onions, 10 avril 2012 - 07:41 .


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Father Giliam

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Never really thought of it being an offensive type. I wouldnt mind if it was as I personally hate the Reave/Pull combo. Though I still want it to be a defensive ability. Would be great for objective waves.

Modifié par Father Giliam, 10 avril 2012 - 06:39 .


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Based off the trailer, I think it'll be defensive. I'm hoping it'll be some sort of 20-30 second shield that will give a barrier-esque damage reduction to players standing inside it. However, we won't know for certain until someone unlocks it and posts here with details.

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vonSlash wrote...

Based off the trailer, I think it'll be defensive. I'm hoping it'll be some sort of 20-30 second shield that will give a barrier-esque damage reduction to players standing inside it. However, we won't know for certain until someone unlocks it and posts here with details.


Posted the details, I unlocked it. :P

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Warp bubble AND Reave? Yes please.

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Only a 10% damage reduction?

That sounds wicked useless.

It should simply provide 2 seconds of invincibility on a 20s cool down independent of the GCD.

Modifié par Shahadem, 10 avril 2012 - 07:04 .


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So...does this pretty much render the drell adept useless... because it really seems that way.. All they had going for them was the pull/reave combo. Now the asari get it and they have more defenses AND they have a defensive bubble..

Modifié par lightsnow13, 10 avril 2012 - 07:04 .


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Sort of both.

Stand in it while you can for the bonuses. When enemies get near you, back up so they enter it, then BOOM them.

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Judging by rank perks, I'd keep it defensive. The offensive perks only work if enemy enters the bubble. The only enemies that would do that would be brutes, banshees, phantoms, and geth hunters.

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Could you post its base stats?

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I'm having troubling exploding warped enemies in my bubble. Running into enemies and using bubble doesn't work. The enemies have to walk through the bubble to get warped.

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20% damage reduction, 10% damage against enemies. really fast recharge, like, as fast as warp.

Duration is 30 seconds, 57 seconds with Rank 3 and maxed out passive for power duration.

Modifié par salted onions, 10 avril 2012 - 07:09 .


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Hmm. Does it only apply the damage reduction to allies after the upgrade or does it shield them regardless?

And that seems troubling about it being used offensivley then. Either its a bug or they really want you to be playing more defensively with it.

Modifié par Father Giliam, 10 avril 2012 - 07:13 .


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 Worf Warp Effect looks pretty amazing. I think I might pick that. 

Though I cant' decide whether to take Radious, or Shield Regen. And Damage Reduction, or Enemy weakness. Decisions decisions. 

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Father Giliam wrote...

Hmm. Does it only apply the damage reduction to allies after the upgrade or does it shield them regardless?

And that seems troubling about it being used offensivley then. Either its a bug or they really want you to be playing more defensively with it.


If specced for fully defensive, it's 50% damage reduction and -35% time on shield recharge. Specced for offense, it's 25% more enemy damage to those in the shield and enemies who enter will be warped. I went for offense and I'm regretting that a little bit

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Shahadem wrote...

Only a 10% damage reduction?

That sounds wicked useless.

It should simply provide 2 seconds of invincibility on a 20s cool down independent of the GCD.

Erm, 50% at max.  I'm pretty sure that would make most Sentinels utterly invincible, depending on how it stacks.

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Spec offensively, drop at choke, Reave just before they enter, watch each one walk into bubble and detonate itself? Sounds incredibly good.

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Since the new flavor of the DLC characters seems to be building around team support, I'd probably do Radius -> Damage Reduction -> Warp, and then have someone play a shield-support Geth Engineer.

Have the Geth throw the turret down somewhere nearby, that's maybe out of sight, and use the Asari Bubble to build around your team. This should allow you to hold choke points more efficiently; bubble reduces the damage you take, any damage you take gets repaired by the Geth Shield, and any enemies who enter your range get painted by Warp for a detonation.

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salted onions wrote...

Father Giliam wrote...

Hmm. Does it only apply the damage reduction to allies after the upgrade or does it shield them regardless?

And that seems troubling about it being used offensivley then. Either its a bug or they really want you to be playing more defensively with it.


If specced for fully defensive, it's 50% damage reduction and -35% time on shield recharge. Specced for offense, it's 25% more enemy damage to those in the shield and enemies who enter will be warped. I went for offense and I'm regretting that a little bit


Cool but I was mainly asking if the defensive bonus is givin to allies outside of the "Allied Protection" perk. If you answered that in that post, I couldnt draw it out of it.

Modifié par Father Giliam, 10 avril 2012 - 07:21 .


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So what if one Justicar made their bubble have the higher radius and all out offensive, and another Justicar put her smaller bubble inside of the big one and made it defensive, or offensive as well?

Does it stack? Can 4 Justcar put down a bubble on-top of each other and become invincible with insane damage?

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Father Giliam wrote...

salted onions wrote...

Father Giliam wrote...

Hmm. Does it only apply the damage reduction to allies after the upgrade or does it shield them regardless?

And that seems troubling about it being used offensivley then. Either its a bug or they really want you to be playing more defensively with it.


If specced for fully defensive, it's 50% damage reduction and -35% time on shield recharge. Specced for offense, it's 25% more enemy damage to those in the shield and enemies who enter will be warped. I went for offense and I'm regretting that a little bit


Cool but I was mainly asking if the defensive bonus is givin to allies outside of the "Allied Protection" perk. If you answered that in that post, I couldnt draw it out of it.


I'm pretty sure that all defensive bonuses the bubble gives applies to all allies within the bubble, if that's what you're asking?

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Blackest_Knight wrote...

Spec offensively, drop at choke, Reave just before they enter, watch each one walk into bubble and detonate itself? Sounds incredibly good.


It is.
And if someone lived through it, the bubble recasts warp on them. So you can explode them even more. You can BE bosses each and every time your reave is off CD if they are in. It's a no brainer.

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salted onions wrote...
I'm pretty sure that all defensive bonuses the bubble gives applies to all allies within the bubble, if that's what you're asking?


I guess that would be it. By the name of the perk "Allied Protection" I thought it implied the shields defensive bonuses didnt apply to allies untill you got the perk, and if you didnt, the defensive perks would only be yours.

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Put a damage resistance-specced Krogan Sentinel inside that damage resistance-specced bubble and man, can it take a few shots :blink:

Modifié par tvih, 10 avril 2012 - 07:28 .


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Just to help clarify, the damage it reduces is up to 40% and can speed up shield recharge by 25%. The offence damage boost only affects enemies that are IN the bubble. It doesn't strengthen everyone's guns, it lowers enemy defenses.