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[Zeuserich]

It seems the new adept is pretty much useless. If you get into a bad
group - people just run around and never stay under biotic sphere. If
you get a decent group - they try to stay inside and use barricades
properly.

I've tried both of the last updates to the sphere and
they both sucked - you can't get close enough to enemies so bubble would
envelop enemies and they can't get close enough to you since you
suppose to kill them before they do.

Damage reduction does not
seems to be as high as description claims, then again same thing goes
for sentinel krogan - he supposed to be nearly invulnerable and yet
takes quite a beating even when specced to max damage reduction.

I
am also disappointed in pull/reave combo. Its weak (biotic explosion
only works on enemies that are floating in the air) and its annoying
(the sound).

Overall - justicar is not as powerful as asari adept.

Modifié par Zeuserich, 10 avril 2012 - 07:44 .

[Aaperture]

Zeuserich wrote...

It seems the new adept is pretty much useless. If you get into a bad
group - people just run around and never stay under biotic sphere. If
you get a decent group - they try to stay inside and use barricades
properly.

I've tried both of the last updates to the sphere and
they both sucked - you can't get close enough to enemies so bubble would
envelop enemies and they can't get close enough to you since you
suppose to kill them before they do.

Damage reduction does not
seems to be as high as description claims, then again same thing goes
for sentinel krogan - he supposed to be nearly invulnerable and yet
takes quite a beating even when specced to max damage reduction.

I
am also disappointed in pull/reave combo. Its weak (biotic explosion
only works on enemies that are floating in the air) and its annoying
(the sound).

Overall - justicar is not as powerful as asari adept.

The AA is an offensive class, the AJA is a support class. It will never do more damage than an AA, because it wasn't meant to. 

The AJA can buff everyone's damage protection with her bubble, and increase their damage output. This comes in handy for the dreaded hacking objectives, or even for the Activate/disable objectives. Heck, an AJA's bubble specced with Damage increase can be deployed on the GI with his hunter mode specced with damage increase and Tactical Cloak specced for damage increase for ultimate cloak/shoot damages.

The AJA can stun crowds and set-up a ton of possible Biosplosions with stackable Reave, while also buffing herself. The sound glitch was patched btw. We all know how awesome Reave is.

The AJA can also Pull light mobs to thin the herds of enemies, doing tiny DoT damage as well. Or you can just skip Pull altogether and max out everything else, likely making her much more effective.

I can't wait until I unlock her.

Modifié par Aaperture, 10 avril 2012 - 08:06 .

[nasonia]

Sweet! We get Power Word: Barrier in ME3 MP!!

(Except more useful).

Modifié par nasonia, 10 avril 2012 - 08:11 .

[DaDiddles]

This sounds freaking awesome. I love the Drell Adept, but I hate relying on ammo crates to replenish cluster grenades for biotic explosions against stronger enemies. If any enemy gets "warped" within the radius, including biggies like Atluses and Banshees, it looks like the Asari Justicar will rock if used properly.

Also, if the damage reduction does indeed stack, it looks like a raging krogan's best friend will be an Asari Justicar.

[tonnactus]

The asari justicar herself could be very durable. 30 Percent damage reduction from the bubble and 40 percent from reave.

[EVani]

If you have full duration, the warp sounds delicious. Put it at cross road/where the enemies usually cluster and your other adept blow them away repeatedly with combos. I'm thinking crowded map of course.

[We Tigers]

tonnactus wrote...

The asari justicar herself could be very durable. 30 Percent damage reduction from the bubble and 40 percent from reave.

This is what I was thinking.  If you want to play an asari commando, you just found your class.   Strap a shotgun on and do work.

To use the bubble offensively, you do have to run into the hordes, but if you drop it like a stasis bubble and back out, there you go.

Modifié par We Tigers, 10 avril 2012 - 09:56 .

[SilentCO1]

I think enemies have to walk through the barrier to take more damage, so I specced mine for defense.

[Vipala]

lightsnow13 wrote...

So...does this pretty much render the drell adept useless... because it really seems that way.. All they had going for them was the pull/reave combo. Now the asari get it and they have more defenses AND they have a defensive bubble..

nothing moves like the drell

[JMA22TB]

The Justicar might just be the best point character in the game now. Reave and Biotic Sphere both improve survivability. If you've got good aim you can hold a pretty aggressive position and rip everything to pieces.

[Frozen Mind]

hmm... what about multiple spheres in one place?

[AbEntropy]

golyoscsapagy wrote...

Blackest_Knight wrote...

Spec offensively, drop at choke, Reave just before they enter, watch each one walk into bubble and detonate itself? Sounds incredibly good.

It is.
And if someone lived through it, the bubble recasts warp on them. So you can explode them even more. You can BE bosses each and every time your reave is off CD if they are in. It's a no brainer.

Wouldn't Reave detonate like half the enemies inside the bubble at once? (Admittedly, nothing but a boss would survive that). Would you potentially be able to kill, say, a Geth Prime, and its drone and a couple hunters in a single blast of annihilating goodness?

[AbEntropy]

tonnactus wrote...

The asari justicar herself could be very durable. 30 Percent damage reduction from the bubble and 40 percent from reave.

This might be the most flexible power in the game - it sounds like it would be strong eiither way. Just pick pure offense OR pure defense  and you're fine - then set up Reave to complement your choice. Skip pull (kind of bad CC, can't detonate stuff, etc... dear god this would be an OP class with throw), and go for full passives...

The Asari Adept finally has competition for the title of "best adept"... and it's another Asari.

[Foxtrot813]

So I unlocked the Justicar and played with her a bit. I dig it. A lot. One question, you think I should spec rank 5 of bubble for damage reduction so I can use it for offense and defense, or just go full damage taken+Warp effect? Would the Damage Taken effect be very noticeable on Gold?

[JediNg]

I want to know if multiple bubbles stack lol

[salted onions]

It might be awhile before these classes can be fleshed out to their most efficient limits. By awhile I mean about a week.

[Aaperture]

Imagine putting a fully health/shield specced bubble down with a Geth Engineer's sheild restoring turret inside.

Literal invincibility.

[samb]

 From what I'm reading it sounds like an amazing defensive ability, especially for sentinels and Vanguards.  But the last rank for warping everything sounds too good to be true. 
I don't have this class yet, could someone clarify how this power works?  Do you have to stay in place to maintain it, or do you just pop it up and you can leave?  How fast does it deploy?  I can't really make the judgement on if it is defensive or offensive (or both) without seeing it in action. 

[elessarz]

We need to set up a group made of the Justicar, Batarian Sentinel, Turian Sentinel, and Geth Engineer, just for the lulz.

[methodshaolin]

i wanna see how much damage a krogan with max protection tech armor + max fitness + rage + the bubble takes

[Aaperture]

samb wrote...

 From what I'm reading it sounds like an amazing defensive ability, especially for sentinels and Vanguards.  But the last rank for warping everything sounds too good to be true. 
I don't have this class yet, could someone clarify how this power works?  Do you have to stay in place to maintain it, or do you just pop it up and you can leave?  How fast does it deploy?  I can't really make the judgement on if it is defensive or offensive (or both) without seeing it in action. 

It deploys instantly, and you don't need to be anywhere near it to maintain it, but being inside the field itself is somewhat disorientating on the eyes (for me anyway), especially if you're playing as a geth with hunter mode on.

[samb]

Aaperture wrote...

It deploys instantly, and you don't need to be anywhere near it to maintain it, but being inside the field itself is somewhat disorientating on the eyes (for me anyway), especially if you're playing as a geth with hunter mode on.

Thanks for replying. 
Next question, Does the damage reduction apply for only those in it or for any projectile that travel through it?  Like if you dropped a bubble in from of you and walked away, would the bullets traveling through the bubble become weaker when they reach you?

[HolyAvenger]

The DR is significant and makes hack objective/extractions much easier. Two justicar adepts on a team can pretty much allow the team to hold any decent defensive spot making camping a pretty viable strategy.

[fixit6]

Been using a defensive spec, just not seeing it being very good in usual no team work pugs. Main problem is that the range on it is just not large enough to cover much area even with increase evolution plus as another said, people run around like mad so this ends up being: chase people around spamming bubbles in hopes they actually stand in it. So now thinking of going for utility and speccing Warp Effect instead of Allied Protection. Still give 30% dr to others whilst having ability for a bit of offense which AJ really does not have going full defense....

edit. do admit 2x AJs with full defense makes team really tough to kill. Played game with another AJ and silver banshees where doing 1/4 sheild dmg per hit: they usually rip sheilds to zero and dent most my life w/o it. That's seems pretty tanky.

Modifié par fixit6, 11 avril 2012 - 07:36 .