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[Aramina]

Methanoid666 wrote...

Zeuserich wrote...

It seems the new adept is pretty much useless. If you get into a bad
group - people just run around and never stay under biotic sphere. If
you get a decent group - they try to stay inside and use barricades
properly.

I've tried both of the last updates to the sphere and
they both sucked - you can't get close enough to enemies so bubble would
envelop enemies and they can't get close enough to you since you
suppose to kill them before they do.

Damage reduction does not
seems to be as high as description claims, then again same thing goes
for sentinel krogan - he supposed to be nearly invulnerable and yet
takes quite a beating even when specced to max damage reduction.

I
am also disappointed in pull/reave combo. Its weak (biotic explosion
only works on enemies that are floating in the air) and its annoying
(the sound).

Overall - justicar is not as powerful as asari adept.

im guessing a 2 justicar and 2 regular adept combo (or 2 justicar/1 asari/1x salarian engineer) for farming geth on firebase white would work better than usual with 2 justicars at either side of teh consoles with warp bubbles out, any geth approachign can be thrown/be'd the second they approach the console/bubble.

guessing it may work seeing as regular adept with 200% has an insane recast time on throw and if warp is applied immediatly on the justicars bubble then thats be heaven for the regular asari?

might even work on other maps considering the ok range of the bubble.

I think in a 2/2 Justicar/Adept match the bubble would still be best for defense. After all, the Adept already has Warp, why would you need a less useful version of it? Just pair 1 Adept with 1 Justicar and have them Warp + Reave everything. The defensive bubble would help offset the rather squishy Adept.

Methanoid666 wrote...

just reinforces the fact hunters seem invincicle while the cloak is up, guessing youd have to shoot it off then warp would work.

I dunno, I was attacking them and they dropped their cloaks for a few seconds, but even then Reave still wouldn't set off any BE. Didn't have a whole lot of time to test out what was going on, as they had come up behind me. Needless to say, with no BE and all my allies happily running around like headless chickens...I didn't last very long.

Modifié par Aramina, 11 avril 2012 - 05:31 .

[CmdrPwn]

salted onions wrote...

I'm having troubling exploding warped enemies in my bubble. Running into enemies and using bubble doesn't work. The enemies have to walk through the bubble to get warped.

What about using it like this?  http://www.youtube.c...ch?v=fCZrfFNrCX

[GGW KillerTiger]

salted onions wrote...

I'm having troubling exploding warped enemies in my bubble. Running into enemies and using bubble doesn't work. The enemies have to walk through the bubble to get warped.

Doesn't help if techies are on your team and spamming tech skills thinking that tech bursts are somehow more powerful than biotic explosions >.>

[Methanoid666]

Aramina wrote...

Methanoid666 wrote...

Zeuserich wrote...

It seems the new adept is pretty much useless. If you get into a bad
group - people just run around and never stay under biotic sphere. If
you get a decent group - they try to stay inside and use barricades
properly.

I've tried both of the last updates to the sphere and
they both sucked - you can't get close enough to enemies so bubble would
envelop enemies and they can't get close enough to you since you
suppose to kill them before they do.

Damage reduction does not
seems to be as high as description claims, then again same thing goes
for sentinel krogan - he supposed to be nearly invulnerable and yet
takes quite a beating even when specced to max damage reduction.

I
am also disappointed in pull/reave combo. Its weak (biotic explosion
only works on enemies that are floating in the air) and its annoying
(the sound).

Overall - justicar is not as powerful as asari adept.

im guessing a 2 justicar and 2 regular adept combo (or 2 justicar/1 asari/1x salarian engineer) for farming geth on firebase white would work better than usual with 2 justicars at either side of teh consoles with warp bubbles out, any geth approachign can be thrown/be'd the second they approach the console/bubble.

guessing it may work seeing as regular adept with 200% has an insane recast time on throw and if warp is applied immediatly on the justicars bubble then thats be heaven for the regular asari?

might even work on other maps considering the ok range of the bubble.

I think in a 2/2 Justicar/Adept match the bubble would still be best for defense. After all, the Adept already has Warp, why would you need a less useful version of it? Just pair 1 Adept with 1 Justicar and have them Warp + Reave everything. The defensive bubble would help offset the rather squishy Adept.

the idea of 2 was to cover more ground with warpable targets.

also theres fast synergy with the 2 types of adept, takes what 2.x seconds to wait for c/d on warp on the asari, but the justicar bubble auto warps, and the asari can be left to spam throw on her 1.x sec c/d, racking up BE's, justicar is then free to do other things, just a shame the justicar cant BE targets like a regular asari, as mentioned earlier they have to float for the BE, and armoured targets dont sem to explode either, so no more blasting atlas/banshees etc with your justicar (if relying on lift)

the 2 together tho have some potentially good synergy.

Modifié par Methanoid666, 11 avril 2012 - 05:35 .

[Aramina]

Cdr. Pwn wrote...

salted onions wrote...

I'm having troubling exploding warped enemies in my bubble. Running into enemies and using bubble doesn't work. The enemies have to walk through the bubble to get warped.

What about using it like this?  http://www.youtube.c...ch?v=fCZrfFNrCX

I tried using it like that. Apparently it didn't want to activate if I tried it while standing near an Atlas. I had to move far enough away so the Atlas wasn't actually standing in the bubble before the ability would activate.

Methanoid666 wrote...

the idea of 2 was to cover more ground with warpable targets.

also
theres fast synergy with the 2 types of adept, takes what 2.x seconds
to wait for c/d on warp on the asari, but the justicar bubble auto
warps, and the asari can be left to spam throw on her 1.x sec c/d,
racking up BE's, justicar is then free to do other things, just a shame
the justicar cant BE targets like a regular asari, as mentioned earlier
they have to float for the BE, and armoured targets dont sem to explode
either, so no more blasting atlas/banshees etc with your justicar (if relying on lift)

the 2 together tho have some potentially good synergy.

I suppose it depends if you want to play more aggressively or take a defensive stance. To me the cooldown on Warp/Reave with a +200% weapon is so fast that half the time I end up waiting for shields to recharge rather than waiting on the cooldown.

Just thought of something else to add. I did watch that vid, and honestly the only part of that strat that is useful in a higher tier match is against the Atlas...if you can get it to fire properly. Reave is far superior as a means of setting off a BE than the bubble, since it basically autocasts on any target you can get a target lock on. The difference in cooldown is pretty meaningless, considering you'll have to take the time to knock out the shields anyway.

Modifié par Aramina, 11 avril 2012 - 05:41 .

[GGW KillerTiger]

Cdr. Pwn wrote...

salted onions wrote...

I'm having troubling exploding warped enemies in my bubble. Running into enemies and using bubble doesn't work. The enemies have to walk through the bubble to get warped.

What about using it like this?  http://www.youtube.c...ch?v=fCZrfFNrCX

lol epic win

[CmdrPwn]

bchesson wrote...

Yeah that's one of my pet peeves at the moment. Would be nice to tell who's a regular adept and who's a justicar.

You can just look at what powers they have in the lobby menu.

[GodlessPaladin]

Offensive justicar sphere is amazing, I just respecced to it and it's just plain stomping Gold reapers.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 11 avril 2012 - 06:03 .

[BraveLToaster]

I actually don't have any trouble dropping the Sphere right on enemies on Gold after it has gone down from whatever choke point I stuck it on. Reave staggers, cast Sphere on the move so you slide towards them, then Sphere staggers and detonates Reave while you dash back to wherever you are set up.

[We Tigers]

How are you using it? Drop in a chokepoint, then fall back, or just getting up in their faces and bunkering down?

[GodlessPaladin]

If you guys are interested, I'll upload a (crappy webcam quality) video of me soloing gold reapers with the Asari Justicar with the offensive evolution. It's awesome. Enemies just MELT in it. And banshees seem to like to stagger in it if you shoot them.

We Tigers wrote...

How are you using it? Drop in a chokepoint, then fall back, or just getting up in their faces and bunkering down?

Generally three things I do:
1)  Run right up into a cluster of enemies and make like I'm using Nova.
2)  Drop it on me for 20% DR as enemies approach, draw aggro with high damage from reave and weapons, fall back as enemies approach me and watch banshees, brutes, etc blow up right when they reach the bubble.
3)  Drop it at a chokepoint and fall back, especially in the time before a wave starts (where I can drop it right in front of an enemy spawn then fall back).

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 11 avril 2012 - 06:43 .

[BraveLToaster]

We Tigers wrote...

How are you using it? Drop in a chokepoint, then fall back, or just getting up in their faces and bunkering down?

I go for both, depending on the enemies in question.

[tonnactus]

WizeMan305 wrote...

Seems like it may be more useful as a support class. Max reave for defense, bubble for defense, leave out pull, and max fitness, she could make a pretty good mission runner or reviver. I like the thought of the offensive bubble but it seems too circumstantial of a tactic, and if you try to set up the right circumstances it seems very dangerous. As nice as warp perk sounds for explosions seems just way to high risk. Unless you set it up spec it for duration and drop it in a high traffic area at the start of the wave to get a jump start on the wave, but just seems so much better as a defensive class.

The offensive justicar(silver):



Seems pretty good.

[CmdrPwn]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

If you guys are interested, I'll upload a (crappy webcam quality) video of me soloing gold reapers with the Asari Justicar with the offensive evolution. It's awesome. Enemies just MELT in it. And banshees seem to like to stagger in it if you shoot them.

Yeah I would like to see since there's only 2 other videos of people playing it on youtube right now with bronze and silver.

[Fingertrip]

The bubble is a bloody god tier ability in gold. Any class with damage reduction + inside bubble will not even be scratched from damage while inside it.

It's god tier ablity, farming gold has never been this easy, as long as you play as a support. Hell, even Reave/Pull + Pistol and re-putting up barrier has gotten me top score as well all the time. All about the contribution you pull to the team.

Best ability in the game. Hands down.

[Nihilus23]

40% damage reduction in the buble
40% damage reduction for reave(max level)
=80% reduction
and 25% speed for shield recharge...
kind of tank and excellent supporter .. best class for gold i think

[Sacrificial Bias]

Not sure what the point of an offensive build would be given that the biotic explosion damage isn't quite at the level of Warp + Throw. But then again, Area Reave has the potential to do a lot of damage if you happen to nail a lot of targets with it and set off multiple blasts, especially next to a boss mob.

I went with a defensive build with extended Reave duration(for maximum damage + damage reduction. Quite literally took 4 rockets in the face with lots of enemy gunfire before my shields dropped, while standing out in the open. Granted it was Bronze, but I felt the Asari Justicar more or less nullifies the entire Sentinel class simply because you can give the damage reduction to teammates as well(if they ever decide to stay in the damn bubble next to cover).

I think this would be a great addition to all Silver and Gold games if one has good teamwork simply because the damage reduction and shield regen means less time spent in cover waiting for shields to regenerate and more time shooting things.

[x-president]

I tried an offensive bubble on Gold. It can be fairly good with 2 people running it together. Otherwise I don't think it really works. Plus you have to hold a position for it to be effective at all. The biotic explosions can be hit and miss as well and aren't all the strong. It didn't work as good as expected.

The decoy/Bubble setup does work good. I also teamed up with an Adept, but we were combing explosions before they would get near the bubble. So it really only worked on the few stragglers that made it close.

It looks like it will be the best used defensively, but I think the radius boost is a must regardless.