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[dzero]

You people really need to get to know your grenades more. Grenades are your friends.

[Atheosis]

Cluster grenades, Drell speed, and Drell capacity, all render the OP's question silly. If you ask me, unless a team has too many grenade users (hurting the grenade supply), the Drell Adept is superior.

[Atheosis]

Sdrol117 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

The Drell Adept is more of a death-dealer than the Justicar. The Justicar is a support class that happens to have Reave. The bubble is all about support and it's useless if you're running all over the map destroying enemies like the Drell. If anything the Justicar makes for a new biotic triangle.

Lol because cluster grenades are some sort of uber death dealer. 

Yep, they are.  People need to learn how to play the Drell Adept apparently.

[Totally_Mad_Rat]

Corvus74 wrote...

Don't forget that rank 6 bubble automatically warps any enemy that enters it if that option is taken.

Drop the bubble at a choke point, reave targets, watch them enter and explode. While they are still in there they get warped again, so drop another reave on them. Rinse and repeat.

How does the biotic sphere work? Can you place it wherever you want (just like stasis bubble) or just near you?

[Thuggy]

*snipping the quote pyramid*

frags are better, and anybody who has to rely on grenades can gtfo.

If you use them as straight up grenades, then yes. However, to maximize the potential of clusters is to use them as a biotic detonator to a group of reave'd mobs. Perticularlly effective for burst damage on armored and shielded units where pull is useless. If you get a good cluster detonation on a spawn point...you can solo a killstreak w/o a missile launcher

Yes they are situational, and not as spammable...but intelligent use of ammo caches, and strategic ammo packs can easily make you a offensive moster in the late waves.

[AreleX]

anyone saying yes knows not of the ridiculousness of cluster grenades and should be ignored

[PsychoWARD23]

Sdrol117 wrote...

Thuggy wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

The Drell Adept is more of a death-dealer than the Justicar. The Justicar is a support class that happens to have Reave. The bubble is all about support and it's useless if you're running all over the map destroying enemies like the Drell. If anything the Justicar makes for a new biotic triangle.

Lol because cluster grenades are some sort of uber death dealer. 

If you know how to use them, they very much can be.

frags are better, and anybody who has to rely on grenades can gtfo. 

lmao, wow

[PsychoWARD23]

AreleX wrote...

anyone saying yes knows not of the ridiculousness of cluster grenades and should be ignored

Being able to  slef detonate>

[T0X]

Someone explain how the AJ outclasses the DA when it can't self-detonate it's Reave?

[Atmospeer]

Drell Adept is ridiculously powerful, played correctly of course.

[Totally_Mad_Rat]

BrotherWarth wrote...


Most of the time it pops up around you, with you smack dab in the middle of the bubble. But sometimes it appears in front of you.

Makes sense. Warp evolution would be OP if it acted like stasis bubble.

[Sdrol117]

Thuggy wrote...

*snipping the quote pyramid*

frags are better, and anybody who has to rely on grenades can gtfo.

If you use them as straight up grenades, then yes. However, to maximize the potential of clusters is to use them as a biotic detonator to a group of reave'd mobs. Perticularlly effective for burst damage on armored and shielded units where pull is useless. If you get a good cluster detonation on a spawn point...you can solo a killstreak w/o a missile launcher

Yes they are situational, and not as spammable...but intelligent use of ammo caches, and strategic ammo packs can easily make you a offensive moster in the late waves.

It's pointless, you're better off with two adepts instad of soloing. youd be way more effective. The drell is now useless.

[We Tigers]

I think they'll make for interesting variations. Don't forget about the drell adept's innate 50% damage reduction when dodging. That plus the 40% DR you can get from reave makes him a lot tougher than he looks. You can sort of approximate that with the Justicar's bubble, but have to be stationary. The drell's speed, whether you upgrade it at rank 6 of fitness or not, remains a totally awesome quality, too. He's the best objective capper/teammate rezzer who can't turn invisible.

Playing a couple rounds with the Justicar, I'm not quite sure how to style her. Her higher health and DR from the bubble and reave can make her suitable for front-line biotic, I'd expect--nestle into cover, get the bubble up, start reaving, and use an AR or shotgun to send some serious fire downrange.  She's an adept who can really bunker down and play like an asari commando.  Whether you spec the bubble for offense or defense, it has a purpose there. There's a lot of potential there, but she plays completely differently from the drell.

Modifié par We Tigers, 10 avril 2012 - 10:59 .

[Atheosis]

Sdrol117 wrote...

Thuggy wrote...

*snipping the quote pyramid*

frags are better, and anybody who has to rely on grenades can gtfo.

If you use them as straight up grenades, then yes. However, to maximize the potential of clusters is to use them as a biotic detonator to a group of reave'd mobs. Perticularlly effective for burst damage on armored and shielded units where pull is useless. If you get a good cluster detonation on a spawn point...you can solo a killstreak w/o a missile launcher

Yes they are situational, and not as spammable...but intelligent use of ammo caches, and strategic ammo packs can easily make you a offensive moster in the late waves.

It's pointless, you're better off with two adepts instad of soloing. youd be way more effective. The drell is now useless.

No it is not.  It's better than all but a handful of classes in the game.  You speak of that which you do not understand.

[T_elic]

mrcanada wrote...

There is offically no reason to play as either Drell class in MP.  If I see you as one, I assume you are not very bright.

Really? Drell adepts are the best at setting off quick detonations, which, if upgraded correctly, can be quite usefull.

[Capt Shanderson2]

Drell adept is a heavy hitting damage class. Asari Justicar is a support class that can do damage, but not as much as the Drell. Out of the two I say the Asari is better because she helps the team instead of just racking up points for herself. If you like insta-killing enemies with biotic explosions and scoring highest than the Drell is still good for you.

Modifié par Capt Shanderson2, 10 avril 2012 - 11:05 .

[Sdrol117]

Atheosis wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

Thuggy wrote...

*snipping the quote pyramid*

frags are better, and anybody who has to rely on grenades can gtfo.

If you use them as straight up grenades, then yes. However, to maximize the potential of clusters is to use them as a biotic detonator to a group of reave'd mobs. Perticularlly effective for burst damage on armored and shielded units where pull is useless. If you get a good cluster detonation on a spawn point...you can solo a killstreak w/o a missile launcher

Yes they are situational, and not as spammable...but intelligent use of ammo caches, and strategic ammo packs can easily make you a offensive moster in the late waves.

It's pointless, you're better off with two adepts instad of soloing. youd be way more effective. The drell is now useless.

No it is not.  It's better than all but a handful of classes in the game.  You speak of that which you do not understand.

A class that relies on grenades is not better than all but a handful of classes. The fact it relies on constantly grabbing grenades to be of use unless there is an Asari adept or somebody by his side to detonate his explosions mean he is simply outclassed. He is crap alone. 

[Deucetipher]

I think that the drell is probably better in a vacuum, but in the context of a biotic tandem, cluster nades are less necessary, since combos are much more easy to set off. In this scenario, the bubble is probably better than the cluster nades, at least from "the team's" pov.

[Nompire]

Sdrol117 wrote...

A class that relies on grenades is not better than all but a handful of classes. The fact it relies on constantly grabbing grenades to be of use unless there is an Asari adept or somebody by his side to detonate his explosions mean he is simply outclassed. He is crap alone. 

Going to have to disagree with you on the grounds of you don't know what you're talking about.

[Thuggy]

Sdrol117 wrote...

Thuggy wrote...

*snipping the quote pyramid*

frags are better, and anybody who has to rely on grenades can gtfo.

If you use them as straight up grenades, then yes. However, to maximize the potential of clusters is to use them as a biotic detonator to a group of reave'd mobs. Perticularlly effective for burst damage on armored and shielded units where pull is useless. If you get a good cluster detonation on a spawn point...you can solo a killstreak w/o a missile launcher

Yes they are situational, and not as spammable...but intelligent use of ammo caches, and strategic ammo packs can easily make you a offensive moster in the late waves.

It's pointless, you're better off with two adepts instad of soloing. youd be way more effective. The drell is now useless.

It's a secondary strategy, that much is obvious given cluster's supply limitations. That does NOT make it pointless. Yes working w/ another Biotic chaining detonations is your primary strat, but even in groups with friends...it's difficult to keep 2 players in perfect sync for an entire match. Couple that with the fact that cluster detonations are in fact more powerful than warp/throw ones and are soloable independant of normal power cooldowns. They are in no way useless.

[stribies]

Sdrol117 wrote...

Thuggy wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

The Drell Adept is more of a death-dealer than the Justicar. The Justicar is a support class that happens to have Reave. The bubble is all about support and it's useless if you're running all over the map destroying enemies like the Drell. If anything the Justicar makes for a new biotic triangle.

Lol because cluster grenades are some sort of uber death dealer. 

If you know how to use them, they very much can be.

frags are better, and anybody who has to rely on grenades can gtfo. 

^stay in bronze please

[RedSpectrum47]

 Drell Adept 4 lyph