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[Kajan451]

Lennyoh wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

There is offically no reason to play as either Drell class in MP.  If I see you as one, I assume you are not very bright.

I think not having unlocked the Justicar or Battle Master yet is a safer assumption

Urm, i prefer the Drell Adept over the Asari for its cluster granades. Even though i never saw much reason to go above rank 3, they are very useful in triggering biotic explosions on Brutes, Ravangers, Primes, Banshees and about anything else.

The reason i wouldn't play the Asari Justicar? I already have the other Asari Adept and even though the Justicar has a nice ability other than the bubble, the Drell Adept isn't screwed up when facing a lot of enemies with Armor. The Justicar doesn't have a means to trigger biotic explosions on Armored foes. Pull doesn't effect them, so there is no explosion. Just like you can't trigger a Singularity on armored enemies, because they aren't effected.

Yet, the useful ness of both Justicar and Drell Adept is dimishing compared to the regular Asari Adept. Warp + Throw, both with increased biotic explosions, even on armored enemies, is already really good. Add the Stasis Bubble to the mix and you pretty much have a good CC means on top of it. Its Damage beats the Drell, and the Drell, by any estimation beats the Justicar.


Oh and about the AOE Melee... if you need an AOE melee you did something wrong, as Adept. The Asari Justicar seems like the Quarian Engineer of the Adepts.

Modifié par Kajan451, 10 avril 2012 - 11:13 .

[Orlfane]

Speaking of drell adepts and asari justicars, did anyone else notice the constant reave sound is gone? After a couple games with either of them, I'm either so deaf from constantly hearing it, or it was fixed.

[We Tigers]

I just mentioned this in the other thread about Justicar builds, but have you guys tried the bubble yet? While it's really cool, it isn't exactly huge even if you take the radius upgrade. It's smaller than an upload objective circle, and it gets pretty crowded with the whole team in there. Great for you and a tag team partner, but cramming everyone inside is not very intuitive. In theory, the bubble is "better" from the team's POV than a drell's offensive dynamism, but your team has to stay pretty stationary to get use out of it, or focus fire when the daring Justicar charges a mob, drops the bubble, and bails out.

[Sdrol117]

stribies wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

Thuggy wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

The Drell Adept is more of a death-dealer than the Justicar. The Justicar is a support class that happens to have Reave. The bubble is all about support and it's useless if you're running all over the map destroying enemies like the Drell. If anything the Justicar makes for a new biotic triangle.

Lol because cluster grenades are some sort of uber death dealer. 

If you know how to use them, they very much can be.

frags are better, and anybody who has to rely on grenades can gtfo. 

^stay in bronze please

No thanks, I'm going to to keep winning gold without stupid solo Drells who are constantly running to ammo boxes for nades and being useless. 

[RazRei]

No need to play the Drell Vanguard/Adept at all

Human Vanguard > Drell
Asari Justicar > Drell

[Mazrodak]

As someone with the Drell Adept and Asari Justicar, the answer to that question is yes and no. The Drell adept isn't redundant, it's flat our inferior. The Asari justicar is just better in every way, my reave does 15 more damage than my drell's, my pull lasts 8 seconds, reave lasts 9, and the biotic barrier ability is just plain ridiculous.

[gavinjeffes]

They both are excellent characters in their own right. HOWEVER- the quick-dodge, warp/protective bubble, and reave makes them the squishy asari adept's best friend. I think we'll see one drell adept, 2 AA, and 1 AJ in gold speed runs from now on. Grenades lose their viability in gold, whereas that bubble will save the lives of your team mates that normally go down from two quick rockets. Besides, warp bubble will instantly reveal geth hunters, which makes their sneak attacks much easier to prevent. Drell adept will stay because of their insane speed, but players not speed-running will probably prefer to have justicars on their team instead of drell.

[DuelistVash]

Can't remember the last time I got anything but first with my Drell adept. Don't even bother putting points into pull anymore, cluster and reave all the way, mad damage. Sure you need to go to resupply often but with his speed it's not really a problem.

[Totally_Mad_Rat]

DuelistVash wrote...

Can't remember the last time I got anything but first with my Drell adept. Don't even bother putting points into pull anymore, cluster and reave all the way, mad damage. Sure you need to go to resupply often but with his speed it's not really a problem.

I can't remember getting anything but first place with my Drell adept as well. (Except Gold Geth matches, they require at least one more adept/human vanguard/sentinel). My build is 6/6/3/5/6 and I don't rely on cluster grenades.

[Madeline Lightning]

Sdrol117 wrote...

Thuggy wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

The Drell Adept is more of a death-dealer than the Justicar. The Justicar is a support class that happens to have Reave. The bubble is all about support and it's useless if you're running all over the map destroying enemies like the Drell. If anything the Justicar makes for a new biotic triangle.

Lol because cluster grenades are some sort of uber death dealer. 

If you know how to use them, they very much can be.

frags are better, and anybody who has to rely on grenades can gtfo. 

bioWare this is why grouping in your game sucks. People are judgemental of other peoples choices and it shouldn't be that way. Just play the game how you want.

[sirjimmus86]

I love Drell Adept, solo'd two banshees earlier on gold using grenades after rest of team bit the dirt. That said, they died partly cos I was out of medigel after dying 100 times.

So, being less squishy but keeping the awesomeness of reave & some way to detonate it (bubble thing?) seems like a good trade to me.

[Atheosis]

gavinjeffes wrote...

They both are excellent characters in their own right. HOWEVER- the quick-dodge, warp/protective bubble, and reave makes them the squishy asari adept's best friend. I think we'll see one drell adept, 2 AA, and 1 AJ in gold speed runs from now on. Grenades lose their viability in gold, whereas that bubble will save the lives of your team mates that normally go down from two quick rockets. Besides, warp bubble will instantly reveal geth hunters, which makes their sneak attacks much easier to prevent. Drell adept will stay because of their insane speed, but players not speed-running will probably prefer to have justicars on their team instead of drell.

Cluster Grenades do not lose their viability on Gold.  Have you played a Drell Adept on Gold?  It's the only class that can kill a phantom in under one second.  It can alos kill Brutes in a couple seconds with Cluster Grenades.

[Delta095]

I'm disappointed that she, and the other characters aren't as unique as they should have been.

This was their chance to add the new powers that everyone's been clammering for, and they didn't do it.

[Atheosis]

Delta095 wrote...

I'm disappointed that she, and the other characters aren't as unique as they should have been.

This was their chance to add the new powers that everyone's been clammering for, and they didn't do it.

Just like every Tuesday is their chance to balance all the utter crap in this game, and they just don't do it.

[nuculerman]

Sticking with drell adept. The amount that a justicar is better than a drell adept is minimal compared to a players own skill. A drell adept played correctly is an asset to any team and is one of the few classes that can solo well enough to save your asses if you all go down.

[Peer of the Empire]

Cluster grenades are pretty good

[stribies]

Sdrol117 wrote...

stribies wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

Thuggy wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

The Drell Adept is more of a death-dealer than the Justicar. The Justicar is a support class that happens to have Reave. The bubble is all about support and it's useless if you're running all over the map destroying enemies like the Drell. If anything the Justicar makes for a new biotic triangle.

Lol because cluster grenades are some sort of uber death dealer. 

If you know how to use them, they very much can be.

frags are better, and anybody who has to rely on grenades can gtfo. 

^stay in bronze please

No thanks, I'm going to to keep winning gold without stupid solo Drells who are constantly running to ammo boxes for nades and being useless. 

I'm glad you found people to carry ignorant idiots like yourself.

[Book of Mazarbul]

Drell is garbage now, nobody in their right mind would take a handful of cluster nades when you could have a godly biotic bubble to auto warp and CC more effectively than any Drell. Unless you're RPing, Drell Adept and Vanguard will gather dust while Asari and Krogan dominate their slots.

[Agent_Dark_]

IMO they should rebalance the Adept classes a bit.
Human Adept - keep as is. It's a decent mix of offense and defense particulary if someone is bulk shield-stripping with Chain overload or whatever.
Asari Adept - Replace Throw with Slam. They become the CC powerhouse with Stasis, still have the ever useful Warp and Slam can be introduced.
Drell Adept - Replace Pull with Throw. Max offense but the least defense.
Asari Justicar - Leave as is.

Modifié par Agent_Dark_, 11 avril 2012 - 12:07 .

[zhk3r]

I haven't unlocked the Justicar, yet - But Drell Adept is my favorite class in the game. Reave of course being the first reason, but Cluster Grenades are so damn good. But the Justicar can set off her own explosions with the Biotic Sphere, making her more independent, I would say.

[Syrus101]

havent seen her yet but it has to be better than "WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrWWWWWWWWWWWWWRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrWWWWWWWWWWWWWWrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

>.<

[BaeBunni]

Drell adapt won't be useless. Hell the only reason to use the vanguard was cluster grenades. Cluster grenades rock reave is great accept it. Skilled players will see that reave alone won't cut it when cluster grenades pack that massive punch!

[jamesfrom818]

Justicar is a great class and might be better on paper but I have more fun with the Drells

[Kajan451]

Orlfane wrote...

Speaking of drell adepts and asari justicars, did anyone else notice the constant reave sound is gone?

Nope, didn't notice it, i usually turn down the volume as soon as i hear that annoying sound.

[RonnyB]

T0X wrote...

Someone explain how the AJ outclasses the DA when it can't self-detonate it's Reave?

Pull + reave or reave + anything that comes inside your bubble if you have the evo that applies warp to anything that enters. Correct me if I'm wrong.