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[kafreses01]

In the past couple of weeks BBC News (online) has been reporting on Mass Effect 3 and contravery surrounding the ending of the game. However, today the BBC had a posting about the fact that a Christian group in the United States is circulating a petition to boycoat Bioware for allowing homosexual romances. It is their right to complain but it is also Bioware's right to write their games as they see fit.

I commend Bioware of for a social stand and a very Canadian social stand. They have produced a series of games (Mass Effect and Dragon Age) that has pushed boundaries. Not only have they allowed homosexual characters in their games they also allow inter-racial and inter-species relationships. If this was the 1960's there would be huge uproar over that. No, this is the year 2012. Times have changed and the staff at Bioware are intrumental in allowing change.

The players of Dragon Age Origins who made countless mods to the game. Some mods allowed your male Grey Warden to marry King Alister and be his love mate.  Other allowed you to have free wheeling relationship with other NPC's regardless. The huge mod concerning Roland is a fine example. To me, such mods say that the community wants these things. The communiity wants the freedom to express their views within the game. Bioware allows this and for that I take my hate off to them.

Thank you Bioware for being honest in your endeavers and producing great games that do more than entrall us with their tales and wonderful characters.

[Capone666]

Agreed. Here here

[Ericus]

Couldn't agree more - Bioware should be congratulated for it's progressive attitudes. And as a fellow Canadian, I'm quite proud to have them putting a 'very Canadian social stand' on the international stage.

[Kevlar xD]

I definitely appreciated Bioware's decision to put homosexual romance options into the game. I, personally, thought they were a little bit in-your-face about it and could maybe have implemented it more gently, though.

[MrTijger]

Agreed and judging by EA's response to the homophobes who started a email campaign over this, those views are shared by EA as a company, whatever failings they may have at least on this issue they are on the side of the angels.

Note, I'm not gay and do not have any 'agenda', I simply feel that gay people should be treated equally to anyone else.

[fruton]

As much as I see homosexuality as un-natural, it is a part of todays world and BioWare are simply portraying romances in a realistic manner and allowing players the choice. The game doesn't say in any way that hetro or ****** is better than the other and allows the player full control, so there is no "promoting" homosexuality onto kids.

I know BioWare is getting alot of flack recently, some of it deserved too, but this is just plain crazy...

[TheJiveDJ]

I agree. Now EA just needs to stop neutering the sex scenes.

[jijeebo]

Here here!

I saw it reported on BBC Three whilst watching Family Guy and I was like DAFUQ?

Stop spreading hate and focus on the LOVE! Bioware are doing great things for homosexual representation in gaming, they deserve a rainbow cookie. xD

[Noblewolf]

Why do people still care what religious groups think or say?

[Mars Nova]

Props to Bioware for this.  If the right-wingers attack you, you know you're doing something right.

[Grimwick]

Cortez/Traynor could have been a little bit more subtle but I applaud Bioware for their liberal thinking! Bravo!

[iamthespark]

I too am a proud of my fellow Canadians!
Thanks Bioware.

[JenMaxon]

I already posted this in another thread but you might be interested too:
http://www.allout.or...ource=actionkit
Though sadly the petition has been closed down by hackers.

Modifié par JenMaxon, 11 avril 2012 - 12:16 .

[Strategyking92]

lol, these "Christian" groups would have a keel over if they saw what you can do in the Witcher series. (not gay stuff, but there is some hardcore stuff that goes on)

Modifié par Strategyking92, 11 avril 2012 - 12:16 .

[DigitalAvatar]

It's very likely the complaints are coming from people who don't actually play the games. The kind of people who hear that the game has "teh gays!" and object on principle. Back when the first Mass Effect game there were complaints about an apparent "graphic sex scene" - of course these complaints were coming from people who not only hadn't played the game, but didn't know a damn thing about video games in general.

[Exeider]

I have no problem with gay romances, heck I even said they should have a robosexual romance option available. Just. Fix..The...Ending...

So props to bioware for adding new romance options.

-AE

[thegamefreek78648]

DigitalAvatar wrote...

It's very likely the complaints are coming from people who don't actually play the games. The kind of people who hear that the game has "teh gays!" and object on principle. Back when the first Mass Effect game there were complaints about an apparent "graphic sex scene" - of course these complaints were coming from people who not only hadn't played the game, but didn't know a damn thing about video games in general.

>_> Probably had little idea about sex in general as well.  Give me an hour watching TV comercials and I'll show you atleast 30 minutes of stuff that was worse about sex than the ME1 scean

[AJRimmsey]

Noblewolf wrote...

Why do people still care what religious groups think or say?

[Palathas]

Personally I don't give two hoots whether there's homosexual relationships in the game. Just like in real life, if they don't interest you then don't pursue them. I fail to see why people still get all in a tizz about these things.

[The_Crazy_Hand]

Bigotry is always bad and always condemnable. And for the record, I don't doubt that there's some bigots pissed off, and they are wrong for it. Just as I don't doubt it happened with ME1 and ME2, which also had gay characters. Suddenly now it's newsworthy? odd, but I did notice some things about this:

-Fallout 3 had gay characters, and sold more than ME3 ever will, yet no outbursts from "anti-gay" people mad the press.
-Fallout New Vegas: Same story, only there were even more gay characters, still no controversy.
-Catherine: Pretty thick gay/transgender stuff with Erica, no controversy
-Indeed, MGS2 had Vamp, no controversy in the press there, And it was clearly a bigger commercial success than ME3.

All of a sudden, there is outrage over ME3, when both ME1 and ME2 also had gay characters? And right after EA gets the golden poo award? In the face of all this ending drama and other crap EA ha been pulling?

Yeah, I smell a serious rat here. Bigotry is bad and should always be condemned, but I know exploitation when I see it.  If EA really cares about Bigotry, why didn't they condemn the people complaining about Liara and the Asari race when ME1 came out?  Or speak out against the people who bashed them for Kelly Chambers or the implied attraction Mordin may have had with Male Sheperd when ME2 came out?

I'd commend them if I thought they really cared, as I am pro-gay as it gets, but I just don't buy it.

Modifié par The_Crazy_Hand, 11 avril 2012 - 12:47 .

[BiancoAngelo7]

Just because the thought of two dudes grosses you out doesn't mean that people who lean that way should be left out or discriminated against, that's how I see it anyway. Honestly in a game at least, as long as they're not throwing it in my face I'm cool with it.

Although I did really hate Zevran from DAO...that guy was sooooo frigin annoying...his aggressive sexual advances just added to his grating personality...I think that these kinda things can be resolved when Bioware or whoever makes it so that characters don't assume you are interested in them just because you talk to them in the game....

[Blade Blackheart]

Awww, gimme a break. You don't want your Shepard to be lesbian/gay? Then romance the opposite sex and let me romance whomever the heck I want in my own game!

[Blade Blackheart]

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

Just because the thought of two dudes grosses you out doesn't mean that people who lean that way should be left out or discriminated against, that's how I see it anyway. Honestly in a game at least, as long as they're not throwing it in my face I'm cool with it.

I don't understand your comment... I am a lesbian, my FemShep was a lesbian, and was approached several times by guys (Kaiden, Jacob and Vega come to mind first, with Vega being the most aggressive). Would you say they threw their heterosexuality in my face?

[woodbyte]

Noblewolf wrote...

Why do people still care what religious groups think or say?

Just give it another century.

Also, that's hardly a "canadian stance" and more of a non-american stance. But I can see why you would emphasize that given your proximity.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

I'm sorry, but the Christian group is right. Theres no reason why all sexual orientations should be able to enjoy the game equally. I mean, that idea is just Satanic.