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[Atakuma]

Jawsomebob wrote...

I still cant believe people exist that are happy with the ending. I read these articles and my jaw literally hangs open with some of the points I see you guys make as positives. Most of the stuff you guys spin as good things also to me are bad things.

You seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of opinion.

[Evil Minion]

Jawsomebob wrote...

I still cant believe people exist that are happy with the ending. I read these articles and my jaw literally hangs open with some of the points I see you guys make as positives. Most of the stuff you guys spin as good things also to me are bad things.

And I think many of the criticism lobbed at the ending are garbage, but I'm old enough to understand that different people have different points of view.

[ardensia]

Snow, one of your links under Control is bad. You have two listings for "Wait, why is control a bad ending choice again?" They both link to the same post, which is by RMP_ and not Sparse.

Also, here's another thread that's pro-Synthesis by Ieldra2.

Modifié par ardensia, 21 mai 2012 - 08:49 .

[fle6isnow]

ardensia wrote...

Snow, one of your links under Control is bad. You have two listings for "Wait, why is control a bad ending choice again?" They both link to the same post, which is by RMP_ and not Sparse.

Derp, I'll fix that in the next update.

[fle6isnow]

Le bump, fixed the doubled links and added these ones. Thanks to Ardensia for the last link.

Why pro-enders and anti-enders are both right by Caltaron
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12180091/1

A New Analysis by Thalador
(Not pro-ending per se, but has an interesting analysis)
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12199704

Reaper, Citadel, Crucible, and Catalyst - My attempt at an explanation by Obadiah
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12200029

I think I get it now! I understand the Catalyst's "solution" (though don't necessarily agree) by Micah3sixty
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12190758

A different ascension - the Synthesis compendium by Ieldra2
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12153660/1


Also, I really, really like the word compendium, lol.

[Hudathan]

Keep up the good work fle6isnow.

[hawat333]

That's a pretty good idea. There should be a complete anti-ending topic too, so there are some actual conversation apart from the one that is about endings sucking or winning all the time.

[BrookerT]

I think a compendium of pro-banners might be a good idea, to balance out the negative and IT ones.

Does anyone know of any Synthesis banners? I think the pro-control one is pretty cool, but I can't seem to find any for synthesis.

[fle6isnow]

hawat333 wrote...

That's a pretty good idea. There should be a complete anti-ending topic too, so there are some actual conversation apart from the one that is about endings sucking or winning all the time.

There is one here.

BrookerT wrote...

I think a compendium of pro-banners might be a good idea, to balance out the negative and IT ones.

Does
anyone know of any Synthesis banners? I think the pro-control one is
pretty cool, but I can't seem to find any for synthesis.

Oh, I never noticed there were actual pro banners, lol. I'll keep my eye out for those and link them in the first post as well.

[ardensia]

BrookerT wrote...

I think a compendium of pro-banners might be a good idea, to balance out the negative and IT ones.

Does anyone know of any Synthesis banners? I think the pro-control one is pretty cool, but I can't seem to find any for synthesis.

The only pro-Synthesis banner I've seen was on mcz2345's signature. Not sure where he got it. It's kind of sarcastic and hilarious, though.

[MerchantGOL]

The thread seems to be up my ally.

Has the "Space magic" and how synthesis works complaint been dissected yet?

[Vasparian]

I just don't see how anyone with any kind of common sense can like the ending as it stands. And STOP calling them endings. There is ONE ending...

[BrookerT]

Vasparian wrote...

I just don't see how anyone with any kind of common sense can like the ending as it stands. And STOP calling them endings. There is ONE ending...

The concept of an opinion is lost to you it seems. And no, there are three Synthesis, Control, Destroy, and possibly 6 considering the EMS variation

[Vasparian]

BrookerT wrote...

Vasparian wrote...

I just don't see how anyone with any kind of common sense can like the ending as it stands. And STOP calling them endings. There is ONE ending...

The concept of an opinion is lost to you it seems. And no, there are three Synthesis, Control, Destroy, and possibly 6 considering the EMS variation

Yeah I know what opinion is. And in mine, the people that think the ending is good don't know what good is. And no.. There is one ending. You can try and convince yourself otherwise, but there is one ending.

[ardensia]

 I found you another one by MyChemicalBromance. The forums have died down a lot over the last month, so things don't come as fast, and it's prettymuch dropped off news radars for now. As all things must, in time. 

[RebelReya]

Thanks for the organizing all of this! I have a theory that's shares a few things with IT, but because of it's implications, could change our interpretation of the ending. I haven't seen it, or something very similar to it up here, and I was wondering if you might be interested in adding it too your list? or maybe finding out what you guys think of it?

Here

Modifié par RebelReya, 01 juin 2012 - 07:58 .

[fle6isnow]

ardensia wrote...

 I found you another one by MyChemicalBromance. The forums have died down a lot over the last month, so things don't come as fast, and it's prettymuch dropped off news radars for now. As all things must, in time. 

Indeed, and as I do more summery things (like, actually play with my dog, and shave my cats' fur so they don't die from the heat) I've been away as well. But thanks for another great read! I enjoy MCB's threads, even if some of the more theoretical physics-y ones go wooosh over my head.

RebelReya wrote...

Thanks for the organizing all of this! I
have a theory that's shares a few things with IT, but because of it's
implications, could change our interpretation of the ending. I haven't
seen it, or something very similar to it up here, and I was wondering if
you might be interested in adding it too your list? or maybe finding
out what you guys think of it?

Here

Oh, I definitely think parts of the ending aren't happening in the real world, and are instead in some sort of Geth Consensus-like world. I'm just not sure if it starts after Harby's beam, or if it's just after the "elevator of light" thing. But just like how Shepard's actions in the Geth Consensus affected real world happenings, I think whatever she decides does happen to the galaxy--it's just that there's no physical switch she's actually pushing, and everything is symbolic. Unlike IT, I don't think there is a "correct" choice, because every choice solves the Reaper problem in its own way.

Anyway, I found some of the control and synthesis banners, so I shall update the first post with these new links and the banners after I go digging for some more links.

[Taboo]

Have you added Ieldra's Synthesis thread?

I'm not going to search for it if you have.

I don't like Synthesis but I think you should give it a look.

[fle6isnow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Have you added Ieldra's Synthesis thread?

I'm not going to search for it if you have.

I don't like Synthesis but I think you should give it a look.

Yup, I believe I have all of her threads on synthesis linked, unless she made a new one?

[JShepppp]

bump

[Taboo]

I thought Ieldra was a man.

Well anyway...

I think there was one other Synthesis thread but I sort of "derailed it" as they say. That was my bad.

Something about Synthesis being possible or something. It's there, I know it.

[Ieldra]

The thread you're looking for, Taboo, is

Why Synthesis makes sense by JakeJynx. And I am a man, indeed. My name here is inspired by the name of an elder race in one of my favorite SF novels.

@fle6isnow:
You have quite the collection here. Also I see you've included many of my threads. Thanks. While I am not exactly pro-ending, I believe in being constructive about them and I like the general idea behind the options for the final choice. The issues I have are mostly with the execution and the emotional impact of some of the side effects.

[ardensia]

Ieldra2 wrote...
 While I am not exactly pro-ending, I believe in being constructive about them and I like the general idea behind the options for the final choice. The issues I have are mostly with the execution and the emotional impact of some of the side effects.

Heh. Same goes for most of the people in this thread. Even those of us who did fine with the ending ourselves often admit the execution was... lacking. And the overall fan reaction to it evidences problems with its emotional impact.

Thanks for all your awesome threads, and for your patience in dealing with some of those who comment in them.

[MegaSovereign]

http://social.biowar.../index/12470088

This is my interpretation of the ending minus the Normandy scene. Don't know if it classifies as "pro-ending" as a lot of the stuff I wrote about the Catalyst was headcanon.

[Hudathan]

Synthesis is possible. In fact, anything is possible since we as human beings don't really know a damn thing about the universe. I find it laughable that every other self-proclaimed bio engineer on these boards are somehow privy to the secrets of the universe and took it upon themselves to tell us under certain terms that our science is somehow adequate to explain everything there is to know. Talking about missing the point of science fiction or science itself while claiming to be scientists.

Modifié par Hudathan, 14 juin 2012 - 03:08 .