It's about story telling techniques there bot. Not an assumption based upon how the world works. Science Fiction functions on real world assessments. We have data being tested right now that says FTL may be possible.
One is called suspension of disbelief, the other is a hapax legomena, which is a death blow to storytelling credibility.
"Pro-ending" Compendium Thread (Extended Cut, now with more clarity and colors!)
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#427
Posté 19 juin 2012 - 03:42
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I made this post in a now locked thread. It is my defense of the ending. Do what you will with it, just wanted to put it somewhere it might be used:
http://social.biowar...4183/9#12638235
http://social.biowar...4183/9#12638235
#428
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 07:28
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Not sure if it has been suggested already but I think these would make a good addition.
"Crass Effect" by The Game Overthinker (aka MovieBob)
http://www.screwatta...68-crass-effect
He also made a follow-up episode called "Aftermass"
http://www.screwatta...de-69-aftermass
These are not necessarily "pro-end" since he admittedly hasn't played and/or finished any of the ME games but he makes some really good points in regards to the overall reaction from the community.
"Crass Effect" by The Game Overthinker (aka MovieBob)
http://www.screwatta...68-crass-effect
He also made a follow-up episode called "Aftermass"
http://www.screwatta...de-69-aftermass
These are not necessarily "pro-end" since he admittedly hasn't played and/or finished any of the ME games but he makes some really good points in regards to the overall reaction from the community.
#429
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:19
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Brace yourselves for the inevitable Pro-EC thread.
#430
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:37
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Hudathan wrote...
Brace yourselves for the inevitable Pro-EC thread.
Sign me up, Scotty!
#431
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:40
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It's going to be a **** storm on Tuesday. Prepare yourselves everyone.
#432
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 08:59
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Like there hasn't been an ongoing one since March 7th?Taboo-XX wrote...
It's going to be a **** storm on Tuesday. Prepare yourselves everyone.
#433
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:01
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Sundance31us wrote...
Like there hasn't been an ongoing one since March 7th?Taboo-XX wrote...
It's going to be a **** storm on Tuesday. Prepare yourselves everyone.
I've never really been Pro-Ending per se, more Pro-Information. I've made peace with my preferred choice of Destroy and such, but MANY here have not done anything but grouse.
Even I can't take the negativity. People yesterday were going ON and ON about how four images presented by Bioware already ruined the EC.
Sigh.
#434
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:11
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Taboo-XX wrote...
Sundance31us wrote...
Like there hasn't been an ongoing one since March 7th?Taboo-XX wrote...
It's going to be a **** storm on Tuesday. Prepare yourselves everyone.
I've never really been Pro-Ending per se, more Pro-Information. I've made peace with my preferred choice of Destroy and such, but MANY here have not done anything but grouse.
Even I can't take the negativity. People yesterday were going ON and ON about how four images presented by Bioware already ruined the EC.
Sigh.
It's typical human reaction. Everyone was excited at first but now they're thinking about the worst case scenarios. Some are even saying the EC might make the ending even worse than the original cut.
I hate humans.
#435
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:12
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My non-emotional thoughts about the ending:
I love the endings because they force you to think about very important real life things like courage, heroism, self-sacrifice, devotion, etc. I think that the entire ME Trilogy is pure phylosophical sci-fi book built around ways of thinking and moral choices. The book is very deep and instructive. It just could not have other endings... The endings are completely unpredictable and stun you first. But then you are starting to understand... That was the first time in my life when I had so many feelings and emotions about a story.
My emotional thoughts about the ending:
I love the endings because they force you to think about very important real life things like courage, heroism, self-sacrifice, devotion, etc. I think that the entire ME Trilogy is pure phylosophical sci-fi book built around ways of thinking and moral choices. The book is very deep and instructive. It just could not have other endings... The endings are completely unpredictable and stun you first. But then you are starting to understand... That was the first time in my life when I had so many feelings and emotions about a story.
My emotional thoughts about the ending:
Modifié par Seival, 23 juin 2012 - 09:15 .
#437
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:18
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MegaSovereign wrote...
Nothing is perfect.
Maybe, maybe not. Who knows
...At least ME Trilogy endings is perfect for me. Even without EC.
#438
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:18
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Seival wrote...
My non-emotional thoughts about the ending:
I love the endings because they force you to think about very important real life things like courage, heroism, self-sacrifice, devotion, etc. I think that the entire ME Trilogy is pure phylosophical sci-fi book built around ways of thinking and moral choices. The book is very deep and instructive. It just could not have other endings... The endings are completely unpredictable and stun you first. But then you are starting to understand... That was the first time in my life when I had so many feelings and emotions about a story.
Completely agreed. The more I have thought about the ending, the more it has become apparent to me how brilliant it is.
My emotional thoughts about the ending:
*image*
I don't find it perfect at the moment. My biggest gripe was with the Normandy, even though it could easily be explained by using common sense. But, seeing from those pictures they put up yesterday it certainly looks like they're gonna address that issue. So who knows, I might give it the Perfect-stamp come Tuesday. ^^
#439
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:22
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Seival wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Nothing is perfect.
Maybe, maybe not. Who knows
...At least ME Trilogy endings is perfect for me. Even without EC.
Bioware certainly doesn't feel like it's perfect. Hence why they're doing an EC.
#440
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:26
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MegaSovereign wrote...
Nothing is perfect.
Actually, anything can be perfect, you just need one man to feel it like it. If other people were seeing it same, that's different question...
#441
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:26
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Oh Sevial, you rascal.Seival wrote...
My non-emotional thoughts about the ending:
I love the endings because they force you to think about very important real life things like courage, heroism, self-sacrifice, devotion, etc. I think that the entire ME Trilogy is pure phylosophical sci-fi book built around ways of thinking and moral choices. The book is very deep and instructive. It just could not have other endings... The endings are completely unpredictable and stun you first. But then you are starting to understand... That was the first time in my life when I had so many feelings and emotions about a story.
My emotional thoughts about the ending:
#442
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:27
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The worst part is going to be the IT people. You should have seen them yesterday.
The horror.
The horror.
#443
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:28
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The IT people will be fine. At least most of them will be.
I'd really stop pigeonholing them to be the fragile, insane little birds you think they are.
I'd really stop pigeonholing them to be the fragile, insane little birds you think they are.
#444
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:28
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MegaSovereign wrote...
Seival wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Nothing is perfect.
Maybe, maybe not. Who knows
...At least ME Trilogy endings is perfect for me. Even without EC.
Bioware certainly doesn't feel like it's perfect. Hence why they're doing an EC.
My opinion is that they made EC mostly to make the ending easier to understand. For me the ending is already perfect, but I'll be pleased to see it in more details
#445
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:30
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D24O wrote...
Oh Sevial, you rascal.Seival wrote...
My non-emotional thoughts about the ending:
I love the endings because they force you to think about very important real life things like courage, heroism, self-sacrifice, devotion, etc. I think that the entire ME Trilogy is pure phylosophical sci-fi book built around ways of thinking and moral choices. The book is very deep and instructive. It just could not have other endings... The endings are completely unpredictable and stun you first. But then you are starting to understand... That was the first time in my life when I had so many feelings and emotions about a story.
My emotional thoughts about the ending:
Rascal?
#446
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:37
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Sundance31us wrote...
Like there hasn't been an ongoing one since March 7th?Taboo-XX wrote...
It's going to be a **** storm on Tuesday. Prepare yourselves everyone.
This. It will just be a continuation.
#447
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:38
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Lindor Truffles come pretty close.MegaSovereign wrote...
Nothing is perfect.
#448
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:38
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MegaSovereign wrote...
Seival wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Nothing is perfect.
Maybe, maybe not. Who knows
...At least ME Trilogy endings is perfect for me. Even without EC.
Bioware certainly doesn't feel like it's perfect. Hence why they're doing an EC.
What I've seen hinted at so far fits pretty well with what I walked away with three months ago. They're not really changing anything, they're just making it easier to understand.
#449
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:39
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They never said they were changing things. I have no idea why people think they are now.
Certain things have been tweaked though, such as the issue with EMS, which means they have addressed the Shepard breathing scene.
That all fits within making things easier to understand.
Certain things have been tweaked though, such as the issue with EMS, which means they have addressed the Shepard breathing scene.
That all fits within making things easier to understand.
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#450
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 09:45
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Taboo-XX wrote...
It's going to be a **** storm on Tuesday. Prepare yourselves everyone.
